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Post by yogiii on May 15, 2015 11:12:35 GMT -5
People are only ok with this because it's Archie. If a random poster came on and told the same story he/she would be ripped to shreds.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 15, 2015 11:13:23 GMT -5
People are only ok with this because it's Archie. If a random poster came on and told the same story he/she would be ripped to shreds. Who doesn't love the Archie? |
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Post by yogiii on May 15, 2015 11:13:59 GMT -5
People are only ok with this because it's Archie. If a random poster came on and told the same story he/she would be ripped to shreds. Who doesn't love the Archie? That's what I'm saying. YM has their Archie beer goggles on. |
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 15, 2015 11:17:44 GMT -5
She has been on maternity leave. She starts back at her job (teaching) at the end of August, but because of the way they pay she said she starts getting her salary in July... I'm impressed. First-year teachers here started at the end of July (we did, too, but a couple of days later) and got their first check at the end of Sept. I can't imagine getting paid in advance.  Yeah. I don't quite get it either. But she said that is how they do it and it is not a public school, it is a small private school, so maybe that's how they budget? That is what I am hoping. |
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Post by andi9899 on May 15, 2015 11:18:03 GMT -5
People are only ok with this because it's Archie. If a random poster came on and told the same story he/she would be ripped to shreds. I disagree. The only difference in my posts for random people vs. regular posters is maybe the level of joking. I'm not ok with him borrowing from the kids, I am less ok with his kids not being fed because he can't buy groceries. Borrowing from them is not ok, but you have to do what you have to do sometimes. |
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Post by milee on May 15, 2015 11:18:55 GMT -5
People are only ok with this because it's Archie. If a random poster came on and told the same story he/she would be ripped to shreds. Dark and Carl have received similar soft landings in the past.
Hm, there's a theme here. Is it only the women who are supposed to be financially responsible? Or is it that both men and women are expected to be financially responsible but people talk more deferentially to men? Or is it that people feel free to rip women to shreds? Or something else?...
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Post by yogiii on May 15, 2015 11:19:26 GMT -5
People are only ok with this because it's Archie. If a random poster came on and told the same story he/she would be ripped to shreds. I disagree. The only difference in my posts for random people vs. regular posters is maybe the level of joking. I'm not ok with him borrowing from the kids, I am less ok with his kids not being fed because he can't buy groceries. Borrowing from them is not ok, but you have to do what you have to do sometimes. He admitted the money was used for vacation. He had a choice. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 11:19:28 GMT -5
I think id be consistent. Its not long term draining. I'm ok with what they funded. If those things were different I might answer differently...
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Post by yogiii on May 15, 2015 11:21:10 GMT -5
Really I think for a random poster the overwhelming response would be for him to sell from his taxable. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 15, 2015 11:21:17 GMT -5
People are only ok with this because it's Archie. If a random poster came on and told the same story he/she would be ripped to shreds. Who doesn't love the Archie? MuscleUp  ? Or do I have him confused with another poster who always said "who doesn't love the"  |
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 15, 2015 11:21:42 GMT -5
Who doesn't love the Archie? MuscleUp ? Or do I have him confused with another poster who always said "who doesn't love the" Muscleup was my muse for that post. |
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 15, 2015 11:23:50 GMT -5
You're not. I'm not a big fan of the idea either, because I think it sets an example of money non-management. Sure, poop hits the oscillating device and bad stuff happens, and those are emergencies. This situation isn't one that came about that way. I'm for sucking it up big time, doing without the wants and scaling down the needs and making it work until paycheck #2 begins again. I am already ironing my own shirts... Ok, but what about walking to work to save money? Beans and rice for dinner for a few weeks? (Scratch that. You and the two oldest kids with that much flatulence in one house).  Grow your own veggies, make your own bread....all the nice YM-type stuff we want other posters to do.  |
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Post by andi9899 on May 15, 2015 11:24:48 GMT -5
I disagree. The only difference in my posts for random people vs. regular posters is maybe the level of joking. I'm not ok with him borrowing from the kids, I am less ok with his kids not being fed because he can't buy groceries. Borrowing from them is not ok, but you have to do what you have to do sometimes. He admitted the money was used for vacation. He had a choice. Yes he did. He made a bad decision. He spent money he shouldn't have and now has to deal with the consequences. Again, I don't think it's ok. But it is what it is. Would you rather the kids didn't eat? That is not an option. |
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 15, 2015 11:25:20 GMT -5
I am already ironing my own shirts... Ok, but what about walking to work to save money? Beans and rice for dinner for a few weeks? (Scratch that. You and the two oldest kids with that much flatulence in one house). Grow your own veggies, make your own bread....all the nice YM-type stuff we want other posters to do. The wife is going to buy some veggie plants for our little garden today. Will probably spend $50 for plants that will generate $4 worth of veggies. |
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Post by yogiii on May 15, 2015 11:27:23 GMT -5
He admitted the money was used for vacation. He had a choice. Yes he did. He made a bad decision. He spent money he shouldn't have and now has to deal with the consequences. Again, I don't think it's ok. But it is what it is. Would you rather the kids didn't eat? That is not an option. His kids not eating hasn't been presented as a solution. "I don't want to sell from my taxable" has. |
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Post by obelisk on May 15, 2015 11:27:57 GMT -5
Selling your plasma should net you at least $50 a week
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Post by yogiii on May 15, 2015 11:28:27 GMT -5
Ok, but what about walking to work to save money? Beans and rice for dinner for a few weeks? (Scratch that. You and the two oldest kids with that much flatulence in one house). Grow your own veggies, make your own bread....all the nice YM-type stuff we want other posters to do. The wife is going to buy some veggie plants for our little garden today. Will probably spend $50 for plants that will generate $4 worth of veggies. So true, ours is going in next weekend. We'll get 5,000 zucchini thru the summer and then 200 tomatoes on Sept 1. |
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Post by movingforward on May 15, 2015 11:29:58 GMT -5
He admitted the money was used for vacation. He had a choice. Yes he did. He made a bad decision. He spent money he shouldn't have and now has to deal with the consequences. Again, I don't think it's ok. But it is what it is. Would you rather the kids didn't eat? That is not an option. If it was a random poster though people would be going on and on about how irresponsible it was to go on vacation. I don't think YOU are one of those people that would treat other posters differently but we have seen it countless times before from others on this board. |
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 15, 2015 11:30:46 GMT -5
In retrospect, we could have done the vacation cheaper, but even a bigger retrospect is that we should not have sent kid #2 to daycare. Was not worth the price for her to socialize or whatnot.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 15, 2015 11:33:35 GMT -5
It's not ideal but he's also identified things he's doing to help cover it. And that it is temporary. If he had no clue how to fix the shortfall, that would be a whole other story.
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Post by resolution on May 15, 2015 11:34:53 GMT -5
He admitted the money was used for vacation. He had a choice. Yes he did. He made a bad decision. He spent money he shouldn't have and now has to deal with the consequences. Again, I don't think it's ok. But it is what it is. Would you rather the kids didn't eat? That is not an option. He can feed his kids by selling funds in his taxable brokerage account. The option is selling his own investments to raise funds or borrowing from his kids. Not eating isn't on the table.
I don't have kids, but I would sell funds in my taxable account before I borrowed from family.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 11:45:16 GMT -5
So, even though you have wiped out your EF and are contemplating stealing from your child, you continue with unrepentant spending? I am almost as disturbed that you elected to take a vacation when you knew you were out of money as I am over taking the kids money. You and your wife need to get serious. - Put yourselves on a "no spend" month immediately and only buy the absolutely necessary groceries. - Eat from the pantry & frEEzer first. - Sell stuff that is not in use (yeah, get your a$$ on the Dave Ramsey plan) - Can your wife get an adult paper route? They run in the very early hours, so she could be done before you head out to work. These are the routes where you pick up the papers & deliver them to carrier pick up points (not the house delivery routes) - Can your wife free-lance any work; or tutor students in the evening? Write down every penny being spent every day in a calendar/planner. You must have had some serious money leaks to run out of funds 4 months earlier than expected. Self flagellation is appropriate here. Your ethical barometer appears to be in serious disrepair!  |
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Post by CarolinaKat on May 15, 2015 11:46:31 GMT -5
In retrospect, we could have done the vacation cheaper, but even a bigger retrospect is that we should not have sent kid #2 to daycare. Was not worth the price for her to socialize or whatnot. What were going going to do with her? Stick her in a babycage all day? |
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 15, 2015 11:49:51 GMT -5
So, even though you have wiped out your EF and are contemplating stealing from your child, you continue with unrepentant spending? I am almost as disturbed that you elected to take a vacation when you knew you were out of money as I am over taking the kids money. You and your wife need to get serious. - Put yourselves on a "no spend" month immediately and only buy the absolutely necessary groceries. - Eat from the pantry & frEEzer first. - Sell stuff that is not in use (yeah, get your a$$ on the Dave Ramsey plan) - Can your wife get an adult paper route? They run in the very early hours, so she could be done before you head out to work. These are the routes where you pick up the papers & deliver them to carrier pick up points (not the house delivery routes) - Can your wife free-lance any work; or tutor students in the evening? Write down every penny being spent every day in a calendar/planner. You must have had some serious money leaks to run out of funds 4 months earlier than expected. Self flagellation is appropriate here. Your ethical barometer appears to be in serious disrepair! My ethical barometer has never been in repair. I really, really, don't want to have to start budgeting. I see nothing good coming from that. If I have to, I will, but I don't think I am there yet. My thought is that this is just temporary. By my back of the napkin calculation we should go from cash flow negative $1500 a month to cash flow positive $1000 a month when she starts getting paid (whenever that is). If we do, we should be ok. If not, that is when I need to go into serious mode. I really don't want to go to serious mode. |
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 15, 2015 11:50:10 GMT -5
In retrospect, we could have done the vacation cheaper, but even a bigger retrospect is that we should not have sent kid #2 to daycare. Was not worth the price for her to socialize or whatnot. What were going going to do with her? Stick her in a babycage all day? My wife could have watched her. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 11:50:23 GMT -5
In retrospect, we could have done the vacation cheaper, but even a bigger retrospect is that we should not have sent kid #2 to daycare. Was not worth the price for her to socialize or whatnot. What were going going to do with her? Stick her in a babycage all day? His wife wasn't working. |
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Post by CarolinaKat on May 15, 2015 11:53:00 GMT -5
What were going going to do with her? Stick her in a babycage all day? His wife wasn't working. Oh.... She must have a longer maternity than I was guessing... |
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 15, 2015 11:53:46 GMT -5
Oh.... She must have a longer maternity than I was guessing... It will be about 14 months in total. |
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Post by movingforward on May 15, 2015 11:58:39 GMT -5
Well, I would raid the kids money so absolutely no judging from me. The kids want to eat then they can pay their own way  It does sound like a temporary situation IMO and as long as you are planning to put the money back I don't see a huge problem with it. Poor judgement in going on vacation but life goes on. Live and learn. Hopefully you have learned. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 12:00:52 GMT -5
First you lose your wit . . . and now you are using loonya math to get yourself out of a financial bind? Can you see how low you have sunk Dragon-man?
Aren't you an accountant or financial guy, like in charge of payroll and stuff? Next thread will be that you lost your job for using loonya math at work.
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