Two Muslim Gun Men Killed By Police At Texas Art Show.

[OldCoyote]

Two Phoenix men were killed by a police officer when they attacked a Texas art show show cartoons of the Muhammad.

www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/04/police-shooting-at-muhammad-cartoon-contest-in-texas/

Several thing bother me about this news story. Why on Gods Green Earth would some one put on a show like this.

Full well knowing that it would bring out Bull Goose Lunays on both sides.

Some thing else here bothers me,   A single traffic police officer takes down both gun men with AK 47's,  The officer has a hand gun,  This is beyond lucky.

There also appears to be some inside info that this was going to happen,   Were these men set up?

This is just to convenient, The one man was already under FBI surveillance.  Where did they get the AK 47's? 

I hope I am wrong here, but this is just too convenient,  Did the FBI find two angry men, set them up? 

Listen to the woman's comment that put on the show, Do we really need this?

This was trouble just waiting to happen.

[Tennesseer]

May 5, 2015 9:43:42 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Two Phoenix men were killed by a police officer when they attacked a Texas art show show cartoons of the Muhammad.

www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/04/police-shooting-at-muhammad-cartoon-contest-in-texas/

Several thing bother me about this news story. Why on Gods Green Earth would some one put on a show like this.

Full well knowing that it would bring out Bull Goose Lunays on both sides.

Some thing else here bothers me,   A single traffic police officer takes down both gun men with AK 47's,  The officer has a hand gun,  This is beyond lucky.

There also appears to be some inside info that this was going to happen,   Were these men set up?

This is just to convenient, The one man was already under FBI surveillance.  Where did they get the AK 47's? 

I hope I am wrong here, but this is just too convenient,  Did the FBI find two angry men, set them up? 

Listen to the woman's comment that put on the show, Do we really need this?

This was trouble just waiting to happen.

Pamela Geller.

Don't be fooled by Pamela Geller

[Tennesseer]

The two guys killed were jerks. If you are going to play with fire you are going to get burned.

The same can be said for Pamela Geller-she better watch her back. Her baiting of Muslims is going to get her burned too.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Ya! And these bikers better watch there backs too! How dare they think they could hold a cycling event?!?

Frankfurt bike race cancelled over Islamist terror plot arrests

Instill fear in the hearts of the infidels!

[Opti]

May 5, 2015 11:15:13 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Ya! And these bikers better watch there backs too! How dare they think they could hold a cycling event?!?

Frankfurt bike race cancelled over Islamist terror plot arrests

Instill fear in the hearts of the infidels!

I think canceling it makes sense, why be wrong? I bet lots of folk wish they had canceled work that day in Oklahoma. I recently read a People article on the few survivors in the daycare. Five or six out of 21. Some with lifetime medical issues.

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May 5, 2015 11:15:13 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Ya! And these bikers better watch there backs too! How dare they think they could hold a cycling event?!?

Frankfurt bike race cancelled over Islamist terror plot arrests

Instill fear in the hearts of the infidels!

There is a difference. The bicyclists were just doing their thing. The other was purposely baiting extremists.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Hahaha, ya now there is some logic. LB, just in case you missed what you just said; I agree they are coming for the "infidels" regardless of the event.

But hey, lets just do what Opt suggests and cancel events that receive terror threats, just in case. That will stop them from attacking events, yep, because we just won't put any on.

I'm done. Good day.

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Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger I didn't say cancel anything but I don't think I would participate in anything that had threats made. I'm a coward like that. But with the biking event we can claim the high road, not so much with the cartoon event.

ETA - and I'm not sure I want to pay for the security for people that are purposely baiting extremists. Actually I'm sure I don't want to. If you insist on holding an event like that I want our police as far away from that location as possible.

[billisonboard]

May 5, 2015 12:01:07 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Hahaha, ya now there is some logic. LB, just in case you missed what you just said; I agree they are coming for the "infidels" regardless of the event.

But hey, lets just do what Opt suggests and cancel events that receive terror threats, just in case. That will stop them from attacking events, yep, because we just won't put any on.

I'm done. Good day.

My reading is not that a threat was made but that a plot was discovered too late to ensure that there wouldn't be a risk. Subtle difference but not insignificant. I do not support cancelling things based on, "If you ..., then we will ...". What happened is akin to, "We found structure integrity issues with the building and do not feel it is safe to have people in it."

[Ombud]

I won't stop living my life simply because some idiots deem me an infidel. and if a group has to pay an extra $10,000 to protect my freedom of choice / assembly, they'll do so. That's why we hire extra security on High Holy Days because of those idiots. And yes I will call them idiots. They have no right to come into my country and tell me how to live. If they don't like it, I invite them to leave. However their version of the Koran demand that they eliminate me / us in the most spectacular manner possible. Those cartoonist paid an extra fee for securities just like we all do on High Holy Days. I have no problem with them holding any event they choose. Its just a bunch of cartoonist, kind of like Charlie. Thankfully that cop took care of the problem & we didn't have to waste resources on a trial

as to where you can get an AK 47, ask any gang member. they'll get you one.

[Tennesseer]

Just so it is clear-I have no love for Pamela Geller. I wouldn't shed a tear if she got taken out. She is intentionally causing problems between Muslims and non-Muslims and then claiming, "See!-all Muslims are violent." Her Texas event was simply to bait Muslims in our country.

Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should.

[Artemis Windsong]

Texas 2, gunmen 0.

[Tennesseer]

May 5, 2015 13:36:20 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

Texas 2, gunmen 0.

Those two were easy pickings. Two Barney Fife's. Next time it may not be so easy.

[Ombud]

So you're going to be afraid to do something because you might offend one of them? or cross the street when you see one of them on the street assuming they're all going to try to blow you away? Not me! 1st: I think some Muslims won't harm us. 2nd: I refuse to live in fear

[Tennesseer]

May 5, 2015 13:51:43 GMT -5 Ombud said:

So you're going to be afraid to do something because you might offend one of them? or cross the street when you see one of them on the street assuming they're all going to try to blow you away? Not me! 1st: I think some Muslims won't harm us. 2nd: I refuse to live in fear

Why is it necessary to offend someone in the first place. I don't fear Muslims. Nor do I feel the need to offend them either.


Geller states she is all about free speech but tries her damnedest to silence Muslims in our country. She is a hypocrite of the worst kind.

[Ombud]

these two idiots were looking for a way to make their mark in the world. if it wasn't this event, it would have been another. This simply gave them an avenue to act out. I do not believe for one second that they would have lived their life peacefully till the end of their days. they would have at one point or another committed jihad, maybe when we have the next bicycle race in my neck of the woods. So thank you Texas for handling the issue

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May 5, 2015 13:51:43 GMT -5 Ombud said:

So you're going to be afraid to do something because you might offend one of them? or cross the street when you see one of them on the street assuming they're all going to try to blow you away? Not me! 1st: I think some Muslims won't harm us. 2nd: I refuse to live in fear

When was the last time you had an overwhelming desire to draw Mohammed? This is not about not doing something you really want to do.

[Ombud]

Cartoonists do this all the time --- Mohammed / Moses / Jesus / pick any political figure --- why not?

Last time I had an overwhelming desire to ride a bike? Yesterday

[EVT1]

Have to say it is quite impressive for one cop with a .45 to take out two men with assault rifles and body armor. 

Trained soldiers my ass.

[Deleted]

May 5, 2015 14:09:05 GMT -5 Ombud said:

Cartoonists do this all the time --- Mohammed / Moses / Jesus / pick any political figure --- why not?

Last time I had an overwhelming desire to ride a bike? Yesterday

You are being incredibly disingenuous.

[Ombud]

We disagree. I have no respect for them. If I want to attend a lawful assembly (and it was a lawful one), that's my right to do so. I'm not taking about burning down a town or rioting .... these were just cartoonists who were drawing a figure of someone who died over a millenia ago.

In Germany it was just a bike race

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For the bike race I would have told the racers the risk and let them decide what to do. For the art show, it's like screaming fire in a crowded theatre. You know it will endanger people for no greater purpose.

[Deleted]

I just watched the clip of the winner and he said he draws Mohammed specifically because of the threat. Seriously? What are you proving drawing a cartoon? How about going over and fighting to stop the extremists from kidnapping and raping villages full of women. That will prove to me you are brave. Drawing a cartoon means you are hogging resources from addressing the real damage the extremists are doing.

[Ombud]

I am not in favor of censorship. To tell a group not to meet & share cartoons is akin to censorship. Furthermore to deny the right to meet bc you might offend a particular religious group violates separation of church & state. And that includes Muslims not liking cartoons of Mohammed. To protect their right to exist --- yes. To further their agenda --- no

[Deleted]

I am not in favour of provoking extremists over stupidity. Left to their own devices most people have no need to ever draw Mohammed. If you want to protest extremists take on a real issue. Not one that puts other people at risk while you hide behind the police. This event effectively put the police at war in that area.

[mroped]

I don't believe that I have ever seen a drawing of Jesus in some unfortunate posture or just with some captions explaining that he is gay or something similar. I don't believe there are many people that love drawing that even wanna touch the subject of drawing Jesus.
Political figures, yes but when it comes to religion that's a diferent game.

Unfortunate for the rest of the world that many Muslims still take issue with drawings of their prophet in funy positions or settings.
If we have the freedom of speech and to practice a faith of our choosing is it wrong for them to want the same?
Their way of showing their disagreement is not an appropriate or civil one but that may be because of the teachings of the religion?

And as far as the two that got killed, that's a hard to swallow pill. There is no way a 45 pistol stands against an AK. Those two were most likely plants or maybe they were high on some hallucinogens.

[zibazinski]

The whole world cowers in fear of these people. Boot them out of civilized countries and let them live in their own world.

[resolution]

There are quite a few disrespectful renderings of Jesus, such as some of the Youtube videos and comics about Supply Side Jesus and the art exhibit of piss Christ.

I agree the exhibit was in poor taste, just like piss Christ was in poor taste.  However neither one of them should have resulted in violence.

[kent]

May 5, 2015 14:50:06 GMT -5 mroped said:

And as far as the two that got killed, that's a hard to swallow pill. There is no way a 45 pistol stands against an AK. Those two were most likely plants or maybe they were high on some hallucinogens.

OMG!  Really?  A 45 is no match when some likely illiterate fanatic on some sort of religious "high" shows up foaming at the mouth intent on committing mayhem.

Does the next step involve blaming the police and protesting like they are doing over the officer that got killed in NY?  Oh, wait, I haven't heard about any protest over his death or, for that matter, the death of the black woman in Atlanta - the incident involving two black officers killing a black woman.

If it doesn't involve a white officer and black "victim" that can be used to stir the pot, it's not newsworthy.  Divide and conquer is alive and well.   

[billisonboard]

May 5, 2015 15:44:42 GMT -5 kent said:

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When you stir the pot like you are doing with your post, you need to use this , not the headbanger.