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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 21:56:56 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #1 - 04/01/09 01:12 PM
I feel that it's blow back time.
If you owe any debt to any publicly held corporation...just stop paying. They've stolen enough of our money and now it's time to revolt!
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 21:57:12 GMT -5
spreadout
Message #2 - 04/01/09 01:14 PMyea "enema bag" parties 
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 21:57:53 GMT -5
LuckyStarFish
Message #3 - 04/01/09 01:17 PM
Wasn't this the mentality that established Stalin into power? Yeah, sounds like a plan.....
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 21:58:31 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #5 - 04/01/09 01:55 PM
It's time for us to declare a debt holiday..voluntary or otherwise.
Enough is enough!
Let them write it all off..and we start from scratch.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 21:59:00 GMT -5
Ed1066
Message #6 - 04/01/09 02:06 PM
The attitude expressed in the OP is the perfect example of how we got into this mess - people wanting something for nothing. Take out a mortgage you can't afford, sign a contract you didn't read, then bail on it when it turns out the bank actually DOES want the money back (with interest no less, the jackals)!
Now more than ever is the time for personal responsibility, not head in the sand denial. I think by now most of the dupes who voted for Barack Hussein Obama have realized he is a fraud and a charlatan who has no interest in helping the American people. It's time to hunker down and take responsibility for your debts.
There are enough whiny losers sitting in their FEMA trailers waiting for the next government check, how about a dose of accountability instead?
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 21:59:31 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #7 - 04/01/09 02:13 PM
Actually ed..we are sick and tired of getting screwed around, as the rationalizations you espouse do not justify corporate behavior. And if you are not with us then you are against us which makes you one of the enemy.
So if we need to be partisan..it's time for yours!
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 21:59:54 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #8 - 04/01/09 02:19 PM
Just think of this as 1789 France..which means it's time to cut off the heads of the rule makers, as their rule has been unjust.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:01:01 GMT -5
Ed1066
Message #9 - 04/01/09 02:35 PM
I have always considered myself the enemy of the left-wing Marxist/socialist welfare class, so I appreciate the confirmation. Thumbs Up
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:02:13 GMT -5
traelin0
Message #10 - 04/01/09 02:42 PM
Ed, I agree with an awful lot of your posts, but I'm telling you I've been around these boards awhile and SOTH is a pretty smart guy. I may not always agree with him, but in one sense his premise is right if you stop and think really hard about it. His logic (correct me if I'm wrong SOTH) is that, if the Fed is fraudulently printing money to bail out corporations and to embezzle money from taxpayers, why shouldn't he be irate? I think this entire crisis was generated and it could have easily been prevented if the Fed hadn't lowered interest rates to 1% for so long. This is what Thomas Jefferson referred to as the "swindling" of the citizenry. Human nature is predictable and bankers take advantage of it every step of the way.
I feel his anger and I must say, I am just as angry. But I am directing my anger toward the system and I am choosing to fight it Constitutionally.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:03:00 GMT -5
traelin0
Message #11 - 04/01/09 02:45 PM
SOTH I understand your anger and to be quite honest I feel a lot of it myself. But stay the course man, don't lose your cool. As a nation we can beat the banking bastids without stooping to their level. Let's do it in an orderly way via Tea Parties and informing others of the truth, and let history unfold for a bit. If I could help you I would, all I can do is tell you that my motives are in your and this nation's best interests -- NOT the bankers, and NOT the "too big to fails".
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:03:49 GMT -5
Tax Indentured
Message #12 - 04/01/09 02:57 PM
I believe in the voting booth but we need to vote in a unified way to send a message. Not voting sends the wrong message. William F. Buckley said he would rather be governed by the first 50 names in the phone book than by DC politicians. I don't care if I send the local "Dog Catcher" to Washington. I believe what he doesn't know politically would be mitigated by electing a Senator ( the Dog Catcher) or Rep. (the Dog Catcher again) with a servants heart. It's time the electorate got over electing politicians as they do not know what is best. Elect individuals with common sense (Thomas Paine) and forget the professional politicians.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:04:52 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #13 - 04/01/09 03:32 PM
We agree for the most part. Government is the symptom not the cause. The cause of our problems are corporate controlled lobbyists who get government to work on their behalf.
Their is only one cure for this disease and that is to put the "causal effect" out of business.
And you know congress won't do it, so the American people must do it by causing their bankruptcy and starting fresh.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:05:57 GMT -5
Big Bad Rob
Message #14 - 04/01/09 03:41 PM
The government is the total problem. The only reasons corperations will lobby is if the government has enough control so that they get a return on their investment.
Limit the size and power of Government lobbying disapeers.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:07:03 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #15 - 04/01/09 03:50 PM
The government is run by corporate elitists. We have a government that is of, by and for the corporation and not by the people.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:07:58 GMT -5
safeharbor37
Message #16 - 04/01/09 03:53 PM
What are you? A sexist?
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:09:00 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #17 - 04/01/09 03:57 PM .... The government is a total reflection of the want's and needs of corporations. Even care of the impoverished is an industry.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:09:51 GMT -5
traelin0
Message #18 - 04/01/09 04:21 PM
I'm doing everything I can to change that particular facet of Congress. I am sick to death of those effers who worry more about re-election and kickbacks than they do America.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:10:37 GMT -5
traelin0
Message #19 - 04/01/09 04:22 PM
I agree wholeheartedly, otherwise known as "fascism". Keep the illusion of free market capitalism, when really we all know there are about a dozen bankers behind the scenes, pulling the strings. This isn't conspiracy theory anymore, if one knows where to look for the information they themselves have stated in public.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:11:34 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #20 - 04/01/09 04:24 PM
There is only one way to change a suckling pig. You have to eat their mother the hog.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:12:15 GMT -5
traelin0
Message #21 - 04/01/09 04:33 PM
Yep.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:12:51 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #22 - 04/01/09 04:39 PM
Now..i'm not suggesting running up your cc...just stop paying the debt you have and if you did that..even the collectors would get fired from the volume and lack of cash flow.
If we can't get a tax holiday..we can at least take a forced debt holiday.
Even my wife now gets her hours cut if they can't book a patient for her.
It's time to push back!!!!
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:13:24 GMT -5
traelin0
Message #23 - 04/01/09 05:11 PM
Well the way I'm going to push back is to go to the DC Tea Party, keep speaking the good speech, and run for office after I re-establish myself in another state.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:13:57 GMT -5
spreadout
Message #24 - 04/01/09 05:19 PM
Ive got your back
I will utterly crush and destroy all opposition to you
I will kick all socialist out
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:14:32 GMT -5
51panhead
Message #25 - 04/01/09 05:52 PM
Who else but sea a change for the worst would welch on a debt? Man up!
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:14:58 GMT -5
51panhead
Message #26 - 04/01/09 05:54 PM
Okay how about this, takes a real man to skip on payments that he knows he owes, is that okay moderator? or do u condone theft?
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:15:28 GMT -5
safeharbor37
Message #27 - 04/01/09 06:32 PM
Play nice.
sh37/msnm
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:15:54 GMT -5
CZStone
Message #28 - 04/01/09 07:48 PM
WHAT IF: America picks one day to - Not show up for work, (or show up 1hr late,) - withdraw a certain amount of cash from your bank if it collected TARP - absolutely no shopping on that day, (at least until noon,) - a coordinated, strategic, widespread, show of PHUQING SOLIDARITY!
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:16:59 GMT -5
traelin0
Message #29 - 04/01/09 07:57 PM
I haven't conducted any business whatsoever with a TARP bank (except my AMEX) since October I believe. Unfortunately I have to keep that AMEX because Costco doesn't take anything else.
Are there still lots of people doing biz with these crooks? I guess some people are masochists...
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:17:55 GMT -5
Seachange-on-the-horizon
Message #30 - 04/01/09 08:55 PM
Welch on a debt after the heist the banks and corporate America pulled off?
I think it's time to be man enough and hang the ****.
I guess it's time for the blue eyed, white skinned bankers to be afraid.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 26, 2010 22:18:27 GMT -5
depression 09
Message #31 - 04/01/09 08:58 PM
Don't worry sea change , you will get your wish ....
the ones we will REALLY be screwing over won't be ourselves but the forgien goverments and forgien invesment instutions that lent our people money , and i have ZERO problem defaulting on them , tough baby , it's time for america to reboot , and what's so nice about all of this is that most of the loss will be taken by those outside of our nation ..... thanks for the new cars and houses and the credit cards we were allowed to run up !!!!
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