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[Green Eyed Lady]

Mar 25, 2016 12:08:07 GMT -5 dannylion said:

I love looking at antique sewing stuff! I have my grandmother's chair-side sewing-kit-on-a-stand and her Singer Featherlite machine. I know she had a treadle machine when I was very small, but I have no idea what happened to it. You're so lucky; you can sew even when the power is out!

Weirdo!!

You have awesome stuff!  I don't use my treadle machine much.  In fact, it needs taken apart and cleaned and oiled.  It was my grandmother's and her mother's before her. 

I'm still grateful for my motorize machine!  And my seam ripper!

I'm glad to have found a sister-in-sewing-stuff, but we better stop talking about it or we will get slapped with an Off Topic Warning of the most serious kind.  Perhaps a thread at some point?  However, that could become contentious. 

[zibazinski]

Mar 25, 2016 11:35:58 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 13, 2016 21:53:51 GMT -5 saveinla said:

Has anyone seen dannylion? Hope she is ok.

Aw, thanks for thinking of me kindly.

So it seems I'm part of a trend. I did take a break for a while. I didn't understand the level of hostility directed at me after I suggested that sewing is a useful skill. Such a small, insignificant thing to generate so much meanness.  Still don't understand it or why some of it felt like contempt.  I generally have a pretty thick skin, but I am still baffled by the naked hostility directed at someone who is just basically harmless and nonthreatening. Anyway, it seemed like a good idea to step away for a while. 

Then at about the same time, I got an offer I couldn't refuse.  Apparently, this old Cold Warrior still has something useful to offer, and I am no longer entirely retired, at least for the duration of the project.  So I now have less time to spend dawdling on the internet. 

I did miss the nice people and hope everyone is doing well.  I need to catch up on what has been going on (and probably should learn how to employ the "ignore" button).

I don't remember it either but I've been in a bit of a fog. Glad you're back. I used to sew and had a sewing machine but after so many moves, it's gone.

[Blonde Granny]

I remember that thread.....I believe it was by beergut and his concern over GFs daughter wanting to spend $500 for a prom dress and another $100 or so for shoes. The idea popped up that perhaps someone (or girl) could sew their own.....I think that was where the trouble started.

Happy you're back Danny, sometimes a break is good but don't forget: Don't let the bad guys drag you down.

Even as a mod, sometimes I just have to walk away before I say something I'll regret. Needless to say, I'm not great at making apologies.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Few people are good at apologizing. Not sure why that is.  If a person is wrong, they should just say so and apologize.  Otherwise, they just look stupid.   Guess I just have to do it so much, I'm used to it.

[mmhmm]

I'm glad to see you posting, dannylion. I think, for most of us, there are times when we all need to step back for a bit. As to the sewing bruhaha, I don't recall it but, if it helps any, I have an old treadle machine that belonged to my grandmother and many of her old, sewing notions (buttons galore). I don't use the machine often anymore but it does still work. My grandmother was a tailor so it created many beautiful things in its heyday.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 25, 2016 2:46:44 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

Dezi has been gone from the politics board for a long time.

 He would go away and come back sometimes but it seems like forever since he's been here now. Hope he's ok.

I PMd him a month or so ago but have not heard back from him.

[Deleted]

Mar 25, 2016 13:15:36 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Mar 25, 2016 2:46:44 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

Dezi has been gone from the politics board for a long time.

 He would go away and come back sometimes but it seems like forever since he's been here now. Hope he's ok.

I PMd him a month or so ago but have not heard back from him.

I miss his posts. Hopefully PC problems and we will hear from him again.

[dannylion]

Mar 25, 2016 13:10:12 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I'm glad to see you posting, dannylion . I think, for most of us, there are times when we all need to step back for a bit. As to the sewing bruhaha, I don't recall it but, if it helps any, I have an old treadle machine that belonged to my grandmother and many of her old, sewing notions (buttons galore). I don't use the machine often anymore but it does still work. My grandmother was a tailor so it created many beautiful things in its heyday.

So something good has come out of it after all!  The sewing enthusiasts have found each other.

[Green Eyed Lady]

I have a friend who also loves to sew. She has her sewing room fixed up so creatively.  The walls are all sort of a beige color and on one wall, she has pieces of old sewing patterns sort of "shellacked" to the wall with pieces overlapping (they aren't cut out) to cover the entire wall.  It's absolutely cool! It wouldn't look good if all of the walls were done like that - too busy - but the one smaller wall is just so much fun to look at.

ETA: The bad part is that if she ever wants to make a change, I'm guessing she would have to have the dry wall taken out and replaced because that stuff is NEVER going to come off.

[Jaguar]

I'll start a sewing thread here on WIR and no one can chase anyone away.

[Works4me]

Add me to the list of people that sew and find it a useful skill with no understanding of the hostility that comment generated.

[Green Eyed Lady]

I have to go read this thread. Cause people make fun of my sewing...it's on!

[Works4me]

GEL - right behind you with assorted weapons. I have zero tolerance of teasing others in mean ways.

Setiously, I fail to understand a lot of the meanness that has been rampant on certain parts of this board.

 & 

ps - the above smilies cheer me right now - they stand for me and my GSD Tara who is 13 with very bad hips.

[dannylion]

It was the idea that it was a useful skill worth doing that was dismissed (with what felt like contempt to me).   It made me sad. 

[Green Eyed Lady]

Ok. I read quickly. I think the issue was speaking of sewing as a "survival skill". Some did not agree it was. I disagree as it has actually saved me on several occasions. The latest incident was a trip out of town for work. I arrived at my hotel late and had an early morning meeting the next day. I had one skirt in my garment bag. I had on my very unattractive sweats on and no back up. That was on me. I usually take back-up, but this was a last minute thing and I didn't plan well.

So...I go to hang up my skirt in the room and find part of the zipper had come unsewn. Now. I could have gone out late at night in a strange town to try to find an all-night Wal-Mart, but it wouldn't have been safe. I could have worn my sweats to the meeting but then I would have had no job the day after.   I was able to fix my zipper well enough with my small sewing kit I carry with me. I fixed it well enough to get through the meeting.

No skills are unimportant and just because one doesn't have a particular skill doesn't make it unneeded.  That thread wasn't bringing out the best in anyone (me included early on).  Of course I think math and science are important and I'm sure Danny does also.  Math and science wouldn't have contributed one iota to solving my problem.  To me, being able to fend for myself is an important skill.  Being able to come through in an emergency is an important skill - whether it's sewing or changing a flat or whatever.  Apparently, I should strive to be better skilled at planning for clothing emergencies, tho!

I try to remember that just because I've never personally needed something does not make it unimportant or something to scoff at.  Stuff like that usually comes back to bite one's butt.

 

[dannylion]

I think of a "survival" skill as something useful that enables one to fend for oneself, just as you were able to do, GEL.  Though I suspect that if I had used the word "useful" instead of "survival" it would not have made much difference.  Given the sneering tone of some of the responses, sewing is not viewed by some persons as something anyone should waste any effort learning to do. 

However, if the young lady in question had been able to sew (as I was able to do at her age), there would have been no need for that thread in the first place because she would have been empowered to take care of her own problem without the need for a handout from anyone.   

[Ombud]

Sewing is a lost art. Sewing buttons on, repairing hems, closing seams, misc mending. I'm not as good as others but at least I can do a little

[adela76]

Mar 25, 2016 19:19:30 GMT -5 dannylion said:

I think of a "survival" skill as something useful that enables one to fend for oneself, just as you were able to do, GEL.  Though I suspect that if I had used the word "useful" instead of "survival" it would not have made much difference.  Given the sneering tone of some of the responses, sewing is not viewed by some persons as something anyone should waste any effort learning to do. 

However, if the young lady in question had been able to sew (as I was able to do at her age), there would have been no need for that thread in the first place because she would have been empowered to take care of her own problem without the need for a handout from anyone.   

What you said was "I guess young women don't learn survival skills anymore. Pity."  As a woman who did not learn to sew as a teenager, I found that comment in isolation a tad condescending, even a little insulting to me personally, even though the comment was not directed to me.  I think sewing is a wonderful skill that I might like to learn someday.  I also think that many of the responses to your comment were way over the top.  But if the only takeaway you got from the experience was that this message board is irrationally hostile to and dismissive of sewing . . . that's a pity.  I generally enjoy your posts and I hope you don't see this as an attack (on either you or on sewing!), just a perspective on how a comment you meant one way (sewing is a useful/self-sufficient skill) can be interpreted another way (dannylion thinks I suck at life because I don't know how to sew). 

[Green Eyed Lady]

My sister was going to throw away a beautiful blouse because she lost a button. It was the 2nd button from the top. She looked and looked for a matching button and couldn't find one. She decided to toss the blouse. I suggested removing ALL the buttons and replacing them all with a style she liked. She had never thought of that.   I guess if you don't sew...you really don't sew!

[dannylion]

Mar 25, 2016 19:58:06 GMT -5 adela76 said:

Mar 25, 2016 19:19:30 GMT -5 dannylion said:

I think of a "survival" skill as something useful that enables one to fend for oneself, just as you were able to do, GEL.  Though I suspect that if I had used the word "useful" instead of "survival" it would not have made much difference.  Given the sneering tone of some of the responses, sewing is not viewed by some persons as something anyone should waste any effort learning to do. 

However, if the young lady in question had been able to sew (as I was able to do at her age), there would have been no need for that thread in the first place because she would have been empowered to take care of her own problem without the need for a handout from anyone.   

What you said was "I guess young women don't learn survival skills anymore. Pity."  As a woman who did not learn to sew as a teenager, I found that comment in isolation a tad condescending, even a little insulting to me personally, even though the comment was not directed to me.  I think sewing is a wonderful skill that I might like to learn someday.  I also think that many of the responses to your comment were way over the top.  But if the only takeaway you got from the experience was that this message board is irrationally hostile to and dismissive of sewing . . . that's a pity.  I generally enjoy your posts and I hope you don't see this as an attack (on either you or on sewing!), just a perspective on how a comment you meant one way (sewing is a useful/self-sufficient skill) can be interpreted another way (dannylion thinks I suck at life because I don't know how to sew). 

I'm sorry you found my comment offensive.  That was certainly not my intent. 

[Peace Of Mind]

Mar 25, 2016 18:53:34 GMT -5 dannylion said:

It was the idea that it was a useful skill worth doing that was dismissed (with what felt like contempt to me).   It made me sad. 

It makes me sad that I don't have that useful skill.  I can sew buttons on though! 

So glad to see you came back.

Now - where is msventoux?  She used to have purple hair and is awesome and when she changed her hairstyle I almost didn't recognize her then she went back to the sexy style she had prior.  Any way - I miss her!

[dannylion]

Mar 25, 2016 21:04:28 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

Mar 25, 2016 18:53:34 GMT -5 dannylion said:

It was the idea that it was a useful skill worth doing that was dismissed (with what felt like contempt to me).   It made me sad. 

It makes me sad that I don't have that useful skill.  I can sew buttons on though! 

So glad to see you came back.

Now - where is mvneoux (I may be spelling that wrong) but she has blue hair and is awesome and when she changed her hairstyle I almost didn't recognize her then she went back to the sexy style she had prior.  Any way - I miss her!

Sewing buttons is a useful skill. Did you know that the holes on buttons are spaced so that you can use a zig-zag sewing machine to sew them on? It's true. Sewing them on by hand generally results in a more secure attachment, though, and it's easier to make a thread shank at the back if you need one if you do it by hand. But you can do it by machine if you want to. I have a friend who does absolutely everything by machine. Everything. She's awesome.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Mar 25, 2016 21:10:56 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 25, 2016 21:04:28 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

It makes me sad that I don't have that useful skill.  I can sew buttons on though! 

So glad to see you came back.

Now - where is mvneoux (I may be spelling that wrong) but she has blue hair and is awesome and when she changed her hairstyle I almost didn't recognize her then she went back to the sexy style she had prior.  Any way - I miss her!

Sewing buttons is a useful skill. Did you know that the holes on buttons are spaced so that you can use a zig-zag sewing machine to sew them on? It's true. Sewing them on by hand generally results in a more secure attachment, though, and it's easier to make a thread shank at the back if you need one if you do it by hand. But you can do it by machine if you want to. I have a friend who does absolutely everything by machine. Everything. She's awesome.

Tried it. Suck at it. Broke 3 needles before I decided it was faster, stronger and way less frustrating to do it by hand!

[dannylion]

Mar 25, 2016 21:12:38 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Mar 25, 2016 21:10:56 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Sewing buttons is a useful skill. Did you know that the holes on buttons are spaced so that you can use a zig-zag sewing machine to sew them on? It's true. Sewing them on by hand generally results in a more secure attachment, though, and it's easier to make a thread shank at the back if you need one if you do it by hand. But you can do it by machine if you want to. I have a friend who does absolutely everything by machine. Everything. She's awesome.

Tried it. Suck at it. Broke 3 needles before I decided it was faster, stronger and way less frustrating to do it by hand!

Did you use the button foot?  It's easier with the button foot. Also with lots of practice. (Lots).

Years ago I found a series of brochures put out by Bernina that showed how to use every conceivable attachment and foot available for their machines.  It changed my life. 

[Peace Of Mind]

Mar 25, 2016 21:10:56 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 25, 2016 21:04:28 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

It makes me sad that I don't have that useful skill.  I can sew buttons on though! 

So glad to see you came back.

Now - where is mvneoux (I may be spelling that wrong) but she has blue hair and is awesome and when she changed her hairstyle I almost didn't recognize her then she went back to the sexy style she had prior.  Any way - I miss her!

Sewing buttons is a useful skill. Did you know that the holes on buttons are spaced so that you can use a zig-zag sewing machine to sew them on? It's true. Sewing them on by hand generally results in a more secure attachment, though, and it's easier to make a thread shank at the back if you need one if you do it by hand. But you can do it by machine if you want to. I have a friend who does absolutely everything by machine. Everything. She's awesome.

I did not know that but, unless you want me attached with the button, it's best I continue by hand. Less blood spill that way too.  

LOL, GEL!  Right?!

[dannylion]

Mar 25, 2016 21:16:48 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

Mar 25, 2016 21:10:56 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Sewing buttons is a useful skill. Did you know that the holes on buttons are spaced so that you can use a zig-zag sewing machine to sew them on? It's true. Sewing them on by hand generally results in a more secure attachment, though, and it's easier to make a thread shank at the back if you need one if you do it by hand. But you can do it by machine if you want to. I have a friend who does absolutely everything by machine. Everything. She's awesome.

I did not know that but, unless you want me attached with the button, it's best I continue by hand. Less blood spill that way too.  

LOL, GEL!  Right?!

Yeah, I hate it when I sew myself to my project. But that's what seam rippers are for!  (OK, maybe not if you sew your finger to your project).  You can generally get the blood out if you spit on it.  Saliva is particularly good for removing blood. Small amounts of blood. If you hit a vein, you're going to need to use something else.

[Peace Of Mind]

Mar 25, 2016 21:26:08 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 25, 2016 21:16:48 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

I did not know that but, unless you want me attached with the button, it's best I continue by hand. Less blood spill that way too.  

LOL, GEL!  Right?!

Yeah, I hate it when I sew myself to my project. But that's what seam rippers are for!  (OK, maybe not if you sew your finger to your project).  You can generally get the blood out if you spit on it.  Saliva is particularly good for removing blood. Small amounts of blood. If you hit a vein, you're going to need to use something else.

LMAO!  I think you are so sweet trusting me with a seam ripper. 

Oops - just realized we're on a People missing thread and went way off topic.  I'll shut up now.   Over here. 

[Green Eyed Lady]

Mar 25, 2016 21:16:29 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 25, 2016 21:12:38 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Tried it. Suck at it. Broke 3 needles before I decided it was faster, stronger and way less frustrating to do it by hand!

Did you use the button foot?  It's easier with the button foot. Also with lots of practice. (Lots).

Years ago I found a series of brochures put out by Bernina that showed how to use every conceivable attachment and foot available for their machines.  It changed my life. 

I did.  That's another reason I didn't like it - having to change feet. Can you tell I'm resistant to change?

I need to give it another try.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Mar 25, 2016 21:26:08 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 25, 2016 21:16:48 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

I did not know that but, unless you want me attached with the button, it's best I continue by hand. Less blood spill that way too.  

LOL, GEL!  Right?!

Yeah, I hate it when I sew myself to my project. But that's what seam rippers are for!  (OK, maybe not if you sew your finger to your project).  You can generally get the blood out if you spit on it.  Saliva is particularly good for removing blood. Small amounts of blood. If you hit a vein, you're going to need to use something else.

LOL!!!! I've never tried spitting on it! I'm going to, tho...next time the opportunity arises!

[ZaireinHD]

Mar 19, 2016 15:43:58 GMT -5 oped said:

Later left once before and I chased her down in Facebook and told her she should come back. I am not so inclined to repeat that process at this point, but if someone else wants to...

LB

so that was you oped that brought her back!
I knew of the situation but she didn't mention who brought her back.
but I agree with you not to go for a second try.
at least you have another way to keep in contact
LB is a funny charter - Best wishes to her