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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Mar 12, 2015 13:43:07 GMT -5
I couldn't pass algebra with higher than a C (ok maybe a D) even with a tutor Geometry I could do but couldn't get there because of Algebra
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Mar 12, 2015 13:43:25 GMT -5
I hope it comes back to you
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 13:44:28 GMT -5
Math is one of those use it or lose it skills. I also noticed the last time I took the GRE that I couldn't remember those formulas. Of course, it had been about 35 years for me by then. What are you going to be when you grow up graduate from college?
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Mar 12, 2015 13:44:44 GMT -5
when you got so old.
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Post by haapai on Mar 12, 2015 13:46:39 GMT -5
How much time do you have to bone up?
I suspect that there's probably a way to revisit this stuff and it will come back to you pretty quickly. It would be a crying shame if you had to take the remedial courses. You'd be bored out of your skull.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 13:53:48 GMT -5
You've been losing brain cells for years. I made it all the way through calc in college and now I have to sit and think (sometime for a LONG time) when helping my 12 year old with his homework.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 12, 2015 13:56:59 GMT -5
Good for you Sum Dum Gai! Like you I got a 32 on the ACT but would probably fail 6th grade math now. DH was a double major (math and I/T) in college so it's been easier for him to just barely keep ahead help DD with her math. He's teaching her algebra now and reviews the next day's lesson plan after she's gone to bed so he doesn't look like an idiot. You could ask your girls for help
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 12, 2015 13:57:47 GMT -5
Math was always difficult for me. Arithmetic, not so much. Used that every day and understood its usefulness. Once we got into the higher forms of math, I just sorta lost interest. That's probably a good deal of the reason I found it difficult. I still don't like it but I can get by - barely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 13:58:46 GMT -5
can you post some of the problems here? I love math!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 13:59:40 GMT -5
I have a BA in Math but that was 40 years ago. My brain still works that way, though. I checked out the sample problems in this link
www.actstudent.org/sampletest/math/math_01.html
They looked like fun to me. Once a geek, always a geek. OTOH, I'd have a really hard time on the advanced stuff beyond doing basic derivatives in calculus.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2015 14:00:03 GMT -5
Who knows. I'm going to the local community college to do their two year gen ed transfer track. Hoping to take a few electives as I go and see if anything catches my fancy. Planning to transfer to UCSC or CSUMB afterwards to get a bachelors in something. You are going to school because you want to go to school? What do you expect the bachelors degree to do for you?
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Post by myrrh on Mar 12, 2015 14:04:28 GMT -5
(P+L)(A+N) = PA + PN + LA + LN I just foiled your plan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 14:07:16 GMT -5
This is where having smarty pants kids bites you. My kiddo and DH are slightly math challenged, so I can still rock some algebra. If you knew it before, it should come back pretty quick, just do a little googling.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 12, 2015 14:07:24 GMT -5
I love story problems. Here is one: Person "SDG" has eight hours to refresh math knowledge to prepare for a test. Uses three of those hours to post on the YMAM Message Board how little math they remember. What percentage of screwed are they going to be come Saturday? Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 12, 2015 14:12:32 GMT -5
I have a BA in Math but that was 40 years ago. My brain still works that way, though. I checked out the sample problems in this link
www.actstudent.org/sampletest/math/math_01.html
They looked like fun to me. Once a geek, always a geek. OTOH, I'd have a really hard time on the advanced stuff beyond doing basic derivatives in calculus. You know there's help for people like you, just saying...
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Post by movingforward on Mar 12, 2015 14:16:21 GMT -5
As someone else said if you don't use it then you lose it. I am currently working on an advanced certification in my industry and have forgotten how to study. I have a masters degree (so everyone keeps telling me this should be easy) but it has been 15 yrs since I have been in school. I am being thrown massive amounts of information and I am feeling completely inadequate right now . Last night I had to sit and think about how I used to organize and retain information. I think I have a "plan of action" now. I know I need to get out of my house. There is a library right up the street and I need to go there at least a few hours each week. There are just too many distractions around the house. I also learn "old school" by highlighting, taking notes, repeating the information back to myself over and over again, etc. I have figured out that learning via electronic devices doesn't work for me. I ended up buying the physical books because I just learn better that way. A few people in my study group are working from tablets or even their phones. Using a phone is just crazy to me but I guess it works for some people.
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Post by justme on Mar 12, 2015 14:18:56 GMT -5
Math is one of those use it or lose it skills. I also noticed the last time I took the GRE that I couldn't remember those formulas. Of course, it had been about 35 years for me by then. What are you going to be when you grow up graduate from college? I took the GMAT my senior year of college as I was taking a class that was diffeqs and higher level calc. The first several math questions I was going about the problems the calc way until it finally dawned on me I could just use algebra but it had been so long since I did simpler math I forgot it existed. I really felt like an idiot because I could have done the problems in 2 steps instead of the half a sheet way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 14:20:38 GMT -5
I have a BA in Math but that was 40 years ago. My brain still works that way, though. I checked out the sample problems in this link
www.actstudent.org/sampletest/math/math_01.html
They looked like fun to me. Once a geek, always a geek. OTOH, I'd have a really hard time on the advanced stuff beyond doing basic derivatives in calculus. You know there's help for people like you, just saying... Math is fun....people who don' think so are weird!
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Post by haapai on Mar 12, 2015 14:26:41 GMT -5
This Saturday huh?
That's not good. I'd suggest a triage approach. Look up the remedial math classes and find out what the sequence is and what each one covers. Then start studying material specific to the lowest class. You might be able to skip one or two this way.
Is there any chance of rescheduling the test? Can you take it a second time before classes start? Is there any chance of taking a course of remedial math and then re-taking the placement exam in hopes of placing out of the higher-level remedial classes?
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Post by The Captain on Mar 12, 2015 14:34:17 GMT -5
You know there's help for people like you, just saying... Math is fun....people who don' think so are weird! Well in my case that's a given...not sure what your point it?
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Post by gooddecisions on Mar 12, 2015 14:43:45 GMT -5
I don't know what I'm going to do when my kids need help with math. I guess I'll be stuck paying for a tutor. Math is probably the number one reason I never want to pursue another degree or taking any placement/admission tests.
On the other hand, my dad was in his 40's when he tutored me through honors geometry, AP algebra and AP calculus. He could look at a couple of practice examples and sit down with me for an hour until the light bulb went off or until he had enough of the tears. I got to college and only had to take one semester of math. I guess some geeks really do hang onto it for life.
Good luck getting it back.
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Post by haapai on Mar 12, 2015 14:48:04 GMT -5
Unless you get ironclad assurance (and the communication snafus that you describe suggest that such an assurance is not possible) that you can take the placement exam a second time, it might be wiser to dodge the test until you have studied.
Are you are taking these classes on-line from a for-profit institution?
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Post by cktc on Mar 12, 2015 14:51:07 GMT -5
College book stores usually sell laminated crib sheets with all the formulas you should need. I've found them to be a great refresher. At the very least, brush up on SOH CAH TOA and the quadratic equation and you should be golden.
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Post by Tiny on Mar 12, 2015 15:00:41 GMT -5
I can reschedule but summer classes start in two months so I don't have forever. I can also enroll in classes for the summer without actually taking it. Admissions says they require all new students to take it, but I took a couple classes a few years ago and never took the placement. It'll be at least a few semesters before the folks in admissions check with the folks in student records and realize that I skipped it. The only classes that check are the math classes, since the prereqs are certain cutoff scores on the placement test. I can take a few courses this summer, bone up on math, and take the placement before fall. As long as I don't enroll in a math class over the summer. Jeez, reschedule the test. You aren't going to magically recall all the math stuff you need - even with 8 hours of cramming... to get a reasonable score this weekend. You have an advantage - you know you can do math!!! Ick. Taking this kind of test is my WORST nightmare. I don't do math. I never get the right answer - even if I know the formula and know how to get to the 'right answer'. I always screw up some part of the process. I struggled and cried my way thru a "Business Calculus" college course that I was required to take to get my degree. I had no illusions - this class was like "remedial math for dummies" - I know what actual Calculus books look like and the kind of stuff covered. I struggled. OK, that said if I had to take a math placement test - I'd probably spend some time (more than 8 hrs total) with some of those "prepare for the test" books. I'd rather be hoping to get at least one or two of the math questions right than to take it cold and not get any right. You have successfully done math in the past - think about how horrible it's gonna feel to get the 'easy stuff' wrong if you take the test cold.
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Post by Tiny on Mar 12, 2015 15:01:49 GMT -5
(P+L)(A+N) = PA + PN + LA + LN I just foiled your plan. OK, I don't do math -- but I got this joke immediately. I get puns - no problem.
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Post by haapai on Mar 12, 2015 15:08:09 GMT -5
That's good. My friend in the guard says awful things about on-line math classes. The instruction is excruciatingly dull and if you look away from the screen, the odds of looking back are terrible. It has something to do with not being physically surrounded by other people who give off cues that it is time to pay attention again.
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Post by imawino on Mar 12, 2015 15:31:47 GMT -5
Now I feel compelled to take this test. It will be good for me to discover how ignorant I've become, right? Builds character.
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Post by justme on Mar 12, 2015 15:36:28 GMT -5
Check out the Khan academy. Maybe they have some short lessons that'll help.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 15:40:03 GMT -5
I figure as soon as i get through Advanced Math with son, i'll go take my Praxis and see if i can't get an additinal math certification while its all fresh.
You can ask here about specific problems. But Khan is a good place to look. I'll second that.
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