Selma and the President

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There is an official White House picture of President Obama and family celebrating the anniversary of March on Selma at the bridge.

www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/09/white-house-nyt-leave-bushes-out-lead-photos-from-selma-march/?intcmp=latestnews 

For some reason the original photograph cropped out President Bush and his wife,Laura, who were also in the right side of the photo.
They managed to get Al Sharpton in there, but missed a former President.

So much for his speech in 2008 telling America there is only one America.........

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[Tennesseer]

Ooo-ooooh! Even better is the all-white Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity at the University of Oklahoma. Quite the impressive fraternity bus ride.

(Song to the tune of: “If You Are Happy and You Know It)

”There will never be a N***** in SAE
There will never be a N***** in SAE
You can hang them from a tree, but he can never sign with me
There will never be a N***** in SAE

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Mar 9, 2015 22:26:10 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Ooo-ooooh! Even better is the all-white Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity at the University of Oklahoma. Quite the impressive fraternity bus ride.

(Song to the tune of: “If You Are Happy and You Know It)

”There will never be a N***** in SAE
There will never be a N***** in SAE
You can hang them from a tree, but he can never sign with me
There will never be a N***** in SAE

Quite the comeback.
Now if the President and the White House would deliver on his pledge.............one country

[billisonboard]

Here is a link to the White House blog: m.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/03/08/president-obama-marks-50th-anniversary-marches-selma-montgomery

Yes, the upper group photo does not have former President Bush in it, although he is mentioned in the caption below the picture. Yes, Sharpton is in the picture, although "managed to get (him) in" is a joke since there would have been no way to include the President of the United States of America without Sharpton being in the picture. Former President Bush is both pictured and mentioned in the caption in the other group picture on the page. 

[Tennesseer]

Mar 9, 2015 22:40:48 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Mar 9, 2015 22:26:10 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Ooo-ooooh! Even better is the all-white Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity at the University of Oklahoma. Quite the impressive fraternity bus ride.

(Song to the tune of: “If You Are Happy and You Know It)

”There will never be a N***** in SAE
There will never be a N***** in SAE
You can hang them from a tree, but he can never sign with me
There will never be a N***** in SAE

Quite the comeback.
Now if the President and the White House would deliver on his pledge.............one country

You (and Fox News, naturally) want Bush in the picture. Of course with Bush in the picture it would require the NYT to shrink the picture to fit their paper format and no one would be recognizable.  The front line includes those who actualky marched across the bridge 50 years ago.

And this quote from Fox is laughable-maybe they don't know the difference between feet and  yards:

"Regardless, the Bushes were standing but a few feet away from the first family and were included in other photos."

Here is the picture from your link:
 

Where are the Bush's just a few feet away?  And yes, I think I see Sharpton behind the president, so he is not on the front line.

Not sure why any of the other presidents than the Obamas were invited.  Bush Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr. are not currently president nor did they have anything to do with the March across the bridge fifty years ago. 

[dondub]

The only folks I see having a hard time with this being "one country" are those that have never accepted Obama. 25% of the repos think he's the anti-Christ, a huge lot fell for the birther scam that he was a Kenyan, many are positive he is a socialist and God only knows how many completely disregard him for the color of his skin or the fact he represents the miscegenation of the races.

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[djAdvocate]

who cares?  Bush is a douche.  walking across a bridge doesn't change that.

[dondub]

 I guess some folks missed the whole story of the Selma anniversary march. There was Obama giving an inclusive "we" speech about the "one America" we all live in, for instance. I enjoyed when the camera panned to the stage where Michelle (not Moochelle according to some divisive members here) was sitting with ex-president Bush and Laura. Imagine that!

 Who didn't march was Diane Nash, the civil rights pioneer that was an original marcher and the co-founder of SNCC. When she saw Bush she said she would no longer be a member of the front row of the commemorative march or any row for that matter. As she said....'instead of representing non-violence, Bush represents violence. Instead of representing peace he represents the torture perpetrated by his regime. Instead of representing All Americans he represented stolen elections that took away hard fought rights to gain the franchise to vote'.

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Mar 10, 2015 1:10:50 GMT -5 dondub said:

 I guess some folks missed the whole story of the Selma anniversary march. There was Obama giving an inclusive "we" speech about the "one America" we all live in, for instance. I enjoyed when the camera panned to the stage where Michelle (not Moochelle according to some divisive members here) was sitting with ex-president Bush and Laura. Imagine that!

 Who didn't march was Diane Nash, the civil rights pioneer that was an original marcher and the co-founder of SNCC. When she saw Bush she said she would no longer be a member of the front row of the commemorative march or any row for that matter. As she said....'instead of representing non-violence, Bush represents violence. Instead of representing peace he represents the torture perpetrated by his regime. Instead of representing All Americans he represented stolen elections that took away hard fought rights to gain the franchise to vote'.

Wow, and you worry about right wingers..............

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Reply to #5

This President was all about "inclusion"
Not so much anymore.

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Where they were seated together the pictures I saw showed everyone. It was just poor planning they were so far apart on the bridge, the wide shot really wasn't good... Too far back to identify people .

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Mar 10, 2015 7:39:53 GMT -5 oped said:

Where they were seated together the pictures I saw showed everyone. It was just poor planning they were so far apart on the bridge, the wide shot really wasn't good... Too far back to identify people .

I really wonder why Bill and Hillary were not there.
Carter, I can understand, getting up there in age.
Must not be feeling their pain anymore.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 10, 2015 7:22:35 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Reply to #5

This President was all about "inclusion"
Not so much anymore.

Have the balls to quote reply #5, in this case, my post, to get my attention like I am doing here with you.

As for your "inclusion" comment: it is folks like you who have done their darndest to isolate and marginalize the president, and for some, and I am not saying specifically you, simply because of the color of his skin.

It is not the president who is failing to include everyone but conservative folks who believe they are so much better and superior than the rest of America and want nothing to do with being included in anything.

So get off that self-righteous horse of yours. You look darn silly mounted on it facing backwards.

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Mar 10, 2015 8:43:17 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Mar 10, 2015 7:22:35 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Reply to #5

This President was all about "inclusion"
Not so much anymore.

Have the balls to quote reply #5, in this case, my post, to get my attention like I am doing here with you.

As for your "inclusion" comment: it is folks like you who have done their darndest to isolate and marginalize the president, and for some, and I am not saying specifically you, simply because of the color of his skin.

It is not the president who is failing to include everyone but conservative folks who believe they are so much better and superior than the rest of America and want nothing to do with being included in anything.

So get off that self-righteous horse of yours. You look darn silly mounted on it facing backwards.

Tenn, I did not want to post your reply as it was so long.
I felt if I deleted part of the post, I would be accused of cherry picking.
The President had promised change we can believe in, but he has become the non-inclusive President.
In both the 2010 and 2012 elections the people expressed dissatisfaction with the his leadership and the Democratic party in general, and he has decided to lead by edict.
And pleas stop attacking me as self righteous, etc. It is unbecoming of you.
Please feel free to attack the idea rather than the person.
TY

SILENTLY WAITING FOR A MOD TO STATE TENN IS NOT ATTACKING..... should show up very soon.

[djAdvocate]

Mar 10, 2015 7:22:35 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Reply to #5

This President was all about "inclusion"
Not so much anymore.

inclusion didn't work for Lincoln, either.

[happyhoix]

Mar 10, 2015 7:22:35 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Reply to #5

This President was all about "inclusion"
Not so much anymore.

So VB, what would have made you happy, at this event? What would make you click your heels and shout for joy that Obama is truly inclusive president?

Should Obama have walked hand in hand with Bush, or put Bush and Laura right between himself and Michelle, marching right down the center of the bridge arm in arm - would that have made you happy?

I suspect nothing he did would have made you happy. I suspect Obama couldn't cure cancer without you having some kind of negative take on it (Why did he take so long to do it? Why just cure breast cancer and not bone cancer? Is he just trying to show off?)

Most people looking at this event probably never thought twice about where the Bushes were. Probably not even the Bushes cared. Only ultra conservatives who hate Obama would bother to nit pick the photos afterwards and moan about how horrible they are.

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Mar 10, 2015 11:42:55 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Mar 10, 2015 7:22:35 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Reply to #5

This President was all about "inclusion"
Not so much anymore.

So VB, what would have made you happy, at this event? What would make you click your heels and shout for joy that Obama is truly inclusive president?

Should Obama have walked hand in hand with Bush, or put Bush and Laura right between himself and Michelle, marching right down the center of the bridge arm in arm - would that have made you happy?

I suspect nothing he did would have made you happy. I suspect Obama couldn't cure cancer without you having some kind of negative take on it (Why did he take so long to do it? Why just cure breast cancer and not bone cancer? Is he just trying to show off?)

Most people looking at this event probably never thought twice about where the Bushes were. Probably not even the Bushes cared. Only ultra conservatives who hate Obama would bother to nit pick the photos afterwards and moan about how horrible they are.

Since you asked........
The official White House photo with the Bush's in it, would have sufficed.
My home town newspaper did not mention President Bush and Laura in the article until the last two paragraphs of the puff piece about the President and his speech at the bridge, but that was fine with me also, because it did state they were there. We did not have the picture in our paper.
As far as President Obama curing cancer, you are wrong. I would be estatic. If you remember I was happy giving the President credit for the shooting of OBL. I had no problem with that.
As far as what President Bush and Laura thought, as mmhmm would say, you do not have any knowledge of what they thought about it.
If so, please post a link.
I think the President and Laura did care. They were one of like two or three Republicans that did show up. I imagine there were some right wingers unhappy with them being there. I am not one of them.

[dondub]

Wow, and you worry about rightwingers......

 What comments of Ms. Nash did you disagree with VB?

 Did Bush start two violent wars? Check.

 Did Bush support torture? Check

 Did the stealing of the 2000 election through the hi-tech disenfranchisement of legit minority voters discolor the history of the Voting Rights Act of 1965? Checkmate.

[The Captain]

Mar 10, 2015 8:43:17 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Mar 10, 2015 7:22:35 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Reply to #5

This President was all about "inclusion"
Not so much anymore.

Have the balls to quote reply #5, in this case, my post, to get my attention like I am doing here with you.

As for your "inclusion" comment: it is folks like you who have done their darndest to isolate and marginalize the president, and for some, and I am not saying specifically you, simply because of the color of his skin.

It is not the president who is failing to include everyone but conservative folks who believe they are so much better and superior than the rest of America and want nothing to do with being included in anything.

So get off that self-righteous horse of yours. You look darn silly mounted on it facing backwards.

Tenn - as someone who considers herself mostly conservative I'd REALLY appreciate if you would explain how you know what I do and don't believe about inclusion and equal rights.

Last I check the man who's been married to me for over 20+ years hasn't figured out how to read my mind so he'd really appreciate it if you taught him the trick, it would save us both a lot of time...

[dondub]

If VB would listen to Obama's speech at this event, he/she just might find all sorts of inclusionary comments. Just saying Obama is NOT doing that, or NOT trying to do that, is just more couched comments that because he is Black he should be doing more. It's white people that should be doing more to curb racism in America.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 10, 2015 12:08:43 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Mar 10, 2015 8:43:17 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Have the balls to quote reply #5, in this case, my post, to get my attention like I am doing here with you.

As for your "inclusion" comment: it is folks like you who have done their darndest to isolate and marginalize the president, and for some, and I am not saying specifically you, simply because of the color of his skin.

It is not the president who is failing to include everyone but conservative folks who believe they are so much better and superior than the rest of America and want nothing to do with being included in anything.

So get off that self-righteous horse of yours. You look darn silly mounted on it facing backwards.

Tenn - as someone who considers herself mostly conservative I'd REALLY appreciate if you would explain how you know what I do and don't believe about inclusion and equal rights.

Last I check the man who's been married to me for over 20+ years hasn't figured out how to read my mind so he'd really appreciate it if you taught him the trick, it would save us both a lot of time...

I must have missed the part in my post where I said all conservatives.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 10, 2015 12:13:45 GMT -5 dondub said:

If VB would listen to Obama's speech at this event, he/she just might find all sorts of inclusionary comments. Just saying Obama is NOT doing that, or NOT trying to do that, is just more couched comments that because he is Black he should be doing more. It's white people that should be doing more to curb racism in America.

See reply #2. These white students (two now expelled from the university) are all for inclusiveness.

[dondub]

It would be nice to see VB say something about that horrific event, and it's representation of "one country",   than the continued nit picking of Obama who even went so far as to include the torturous war criminal Bush in the Selma commemoration.

[mmhmm]

Let's keep the discussion confined to the subject of the thread, please. Posters are not the subject of the thread. Thanks.

mmhmm, Politics Moderator

[billisonboard]

Mar 10, 2015 11:55:28 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

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The official White House photo with the Bush's in it, would have sufficed.
...

Do you have a link to "The official White House photo"? I found a White House blog story but nothing that I could identify as "The official White Hosue photo".

[happyhoix]

As far as what President Bush and Laura thought, as mmhmm would say, you do not have any knowledge of what they thought about it.
If so, please post a link.
I think the President and Laura did care. They were one of like two or three Republicans that did show up. I imagine there were some right wingers unhappy with them being there. I am not one of them.

Well, you tell me I don't have any knowledge of what Bush and Laura thought, then you go and tell me what you think they thought.


Since you stated what you think they thought, let me state what I think they thought - Bush was going to try to glad hand some black voters so that they would look favorably on his brother Jeb when Jeb runs for office.

I think Bush was happy he was there in the front row, walking arm and arm with a bunch of African Americans - and I think we'll see him and Laura and the rest of the Bushes out beating the bushes (pun intended) from now until Jeb either becomes president or loses the primary. Every time someone points a camera, there will be a Bush trying to dart in front of it.

Kind of like the Kennedys, whenever one of them ran for office - you didn't just see the candidate stumping you saw every darn Kennedy, plus spouse, plus smiling children. And since they were Catholic, there was a lot of smiling Kennedy children.  So glad I'm not related to a politician, for this and many other reasons.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I'm confused, how exactly was the President supposed to control what picture a local newspaper chose to publish?

How was he supposed to know the photo would end up cropped?

Was he supposed to call and threaten to nuke the New York Times if they didn't immediately reprint the photo and include the Bushes?

Why is everything a massive conspiracy theory?

[The Captain]

Mostly unrelated, but I'm much more concerned why the president, who claims that the wealthy should shoulder their fair burden of taxes to support those less well off, continues to associate so closely with someone who is very well off and who (by their actions) seems to believe the tax laws don't apply to them.

It seems really contradictory to me.

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