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Post by giramomma on Feb 2, 2015 12:38:30 GMT -5
I'm definitely a more flexible manager than others in this thread. I have 6 employees, 5 of whom are very professional and turn in quality work on time, every time. For those 5 employees, I am much less rigid because I know that no matter where they are working their work will get done. For the 1 that is going on a PIP, I am much less flexible with her. She doesn't put in the hours (until recently...she has gotten better now that she knows she will be on the chopping block) that everyone else does and her work product is not up to par. This is how my manager works. I have to say, I'm far more motivated by the flexibility than the pay. I had to take some unpaid time off today, so I got my hours in yesterday. I also did a part of my job that is time stamped, so there can be no questions about whether or not I worked. It's documented without being "officially" documented. My manager and co-workers know I do good work. I think people tend to "show" themselves very quickly. I don't know how long you (MJ) have been a supervisor, but I think after a couple of months, one should get a feel for how their co-workers work. I know MOST of the time, the judgements I make about people after 3-6 months of knowing them really don't change...
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 2, 2015 12:38:41 GMT -5
My official policy says you will be on time. In reality we can flex it so long as no one abuses it. The guy coming in late most days would be a problem in my office. Showing up late once a week isn't an issue. We also pick our start times between 6-9:30 so if you are late every day it's an issue. If I'm 5 minutes late no one cares. I also never get to leave on time anymore even when I have vacation time put in so if I'm 5 minutes late I don't really gave a d@mn.
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Post by gooddecisions on Feb 2, 2015 12:49:00 GMT -5
I see what milee and gooddecisions are saying - it's an all or nothing equation. It just seems like it shouldn't be as black and white as that. For managers who aren't so black and white: how do you deal with this stuff? How do you feel out who just has crap luck sometimes and who is taking advantage? Like I said, I've loosened up. My staff is given a fair amount of flexibility. One was taking it too far by wanting to leave at 11:00 AM every Friday to play poker. She didn't schedule the afternoon off, she just wanted to claim "she worked her 40" and let me know she was leaving. This was not a kid either, a mature woman. I had to put a stop to that as I expect people to work normal office hours 5 days/week and use their vacation time if they want Friday afternoons off. Hell, I would work 4 tens if that were an option, but instead I work 5 tens like almost everyone else. Apparently her previous manager didn't have a problem with it. We talked about it and she now understands. No further issues. If there are issues that affect performance, I note it and we discuss it during weekly one to one status meetings. If there isn't improvement, their performance reviews reflect the poor performance and it should never come as a surprise as any performance issues were discussed throughout the year. You do not want to be in the poor performance category at my company. Some other issues I've had to address in the past were poor quality documents, missing deadlines and tone with business partners. There was only one instance I had to do a formal write-up and that was due to multiple complaints from business partners, no improvements and continued missed deadlines. He is still with the company, but not reporting to me anymore. So, I guess I've also gotten lucky with my staff.
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Post by Peace77 on Feb 2, 2015 13:02:39 GMT -5
I don't understand why he dug out 4 cars. He only needed 1 to get to work. He really should have started digging out and shoveling before his start time.
If he was too busy shoveling to send a 2nd text, his mother should have used his phone and pretended to be him.
I can see being up to 20 minutes late if the job will allow for it. That is, an attorney can't expect the judge to wait an hour and an OR nurse can't expect to keep the surgeon waiting.
He needs to be warned that repeated lateness is unprofessional and could jeopardize his job or at the least block future promotion or pay raises. If he has already been warned verbally, make this a written warning.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Feb 2, 2015 13:17:57 GMT -5
1. it was a text. My associates don't have laptops so I wouldn't be sending them an email at 6:30am. 2. I would have rather he just said at maybe 9 that he was running late. But he took the time at 8:30 to say he had to dig the car out and attach a picture of the snow. 3. I think writing someone up before having a serious sit-down discussion with them is a bit unfair. I've mentioned to him about planning better before but not in a formal setting. I figure if I do it now and it continues, then I'll start documenting. 4. I'm supposed to be managing these people - why would I forward her email to my supervisor? 1. When I was working - it was before texting existed, I think 2. he probably did that to show that he is making an effort and is not BSing you 3. you don't have to write him up, but I don't think having "motherly" talks is appropriate either. You can tell him your expectations - what he does with it is up to him 4. Bc his mother doesn't report to you, but actually above you
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Feb 2, 2015 13:21:33 GMT -5
TBH the little daily latenesses - while annoying - aren't the issue in this particular case. Hell, I tend to get in late especially when I have to prep and drop off DS to school/MIL's. It's the fact that everyone had extra time to dig themselves out and yet he still waiting until an hour before report time to start getting a move on. It takes him an hour in optimal weather with minimal traffic to get to work, so I don't know what he was thinking here. As a human, it makes sense that you're annoyed at his lack of planning, especially when everybody else handled it and you gave plenty of notice. Vent here because we all agree this guy's a shmuck.
But IMHO gooddecision's post was spot on about how to look at it and handle it as a manager. As a manager, this employee's issue isn't planning, notice, commute or anything else that happens outside the workplace... it's whether he is on time or not. Simple. Binary. Easy to explain and document. Don't get drawn into the personal outside details - just make it about the simple requirement of being on time.
Sometimes I think I should just copy your posts with "yeah, that", since you are better at saying what I wanted to say. It will save me all kinds of time.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 2, 2015 13:28:33 GMT -5
Well, can he or does he make up his tardiness by staying later?
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Post by moon/Laura on Feb 2, 2015 13:29:01 GMT -5
I supervise 13 people currently. I dock them vacation time when they're late, snow or no snow. It's not fair to the employees who show up on time. Now most are seldom late. i'm not a total witch. I have people who are on time day in dayout. If an occasion arises that they're late, like a bridge was closed, basement flooded, etc, I don't charge them. I do have one lady who is late 3-4 times a week, and i tell her if she wants to spend her vacation on the highway, fine by me. I prefer under a palm tree. I bet they can't wait for your retirement or transfer. they're ADULTS. fully able to manage their time and get to work on schedule. If they can't manage that the majority of the time, then there needs to be some sort of consequences. I don't understand why that's unreasonable. I get that sometimes things happen that are beyond all control, but we're talking about the chronically late. That's avoidable.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 2, 2015 13:52:11 GMT -5
I see what milee and gooddecisions are saying - it's an all or nothing equation. It just seems like it shouldn't be as black and white as that. For managers who aren't so black and white: how do you deal with this stuff? How do you feel out who just has crap luck sometimes and who is taking advantage? I swear you must be reading my mind. I'm struggling with this right now. One of my employees used the snow as an excuse to not come in today. He's been late several times (it's getting to be a habit) but I've only made mild comments about it so far. Thing is, my staff work overtime, lots of it so I tend to let a lot of stuff slide and give them the benefit of the doubt. However, it's now gotten to the point where I need to have a discussion with him about it. I pretty much let my staff set their hours, but I do want everyone in no later than 9am. I don't think that is unreasonable (I get in around 7:30). And you've given me the phrase I've been seeking, I do think he's taking advantage of the situation. Gawd, I hate this stuff. Being a people manager sucks.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Feb 2, 2015 13:58:15 GMT -5
It seems like there are different kinds of expectations for salaried jobs. One where you are expected to have your ass in your seat 8-5, M-F, and another where you get your work done, and nobody cares when/where that happens. It sounds like this one is more like the first one, I guess. I guess it depends on how much more than 40 hours/week an individual works? I don't know. I am curious about it though. My work was more like the first one, but flexible in that you could make up your time on other days/early/late. Is the second type more related to higher-level professionals? This reminds me of a thread I saw on the MMM forum called something like, "how much do you really work at work?" Answer: it wasn't anywhere near to 8 hours, despite putting in a lot of face time. I wonder if that has to do with higher-level positions as well? There were several people I used to work with for whom I wondered, "what the hell do they do all day?" ETA: I got the name of the thread wrong, but I found it: forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/the-art-of-not-working-at-work/
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 2, 2015 14:32:40 GMT -5
I didn't go into work today. Screw it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 2, 2015 14:37:07 GMT -5
Regarding the followup mom call about both she and her son would be later for work than expected.
I once had an adult applicant's mother call me and demanded to know why I would not hire her son. Little did she know she confirmed my reason for not hiring her son AND she unknowingly answered her own question.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 2, 2015 15:38:46 GMT -5
Oh FFS! No, you're not a bitch (well at least not for this ). People like that drive me nuts. My commute is 1.5 hours each way, I got up 30 min early today because I knew it'd take longer to get to the train and I have staff that live less than 20 minutes away telling me they aren't sure they'll be able to make it in. Wusses! ETA - what would I say - "You knew there would be snow and ice and should have planned on getting up earlier to deal with it". What time is normal opening? It really depends upon where they live vs where you live. When I lived in Boston, I lived on one of the side roads and we rarely got plowed first, second or even third. Just getting out to a plowed road was a big pain. So my boss, who lived 30 miles away via main thoroughfares could get in easily but my 3 mile commute was a bitch that could easily take 90 minutes. So rather than driving, I'd walk to the T only to have 8 trains pass me packed to the gills because everyone else that was in town had the same problem.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 2, 2015 15:47:28 GMT -5
Oh FFS! No, you're not a bitch (well at least not for this ). People like that drive me nuts. My commute is 1.5 hours each way, I got up 30 min early today because I knew it'd take longer to get to the train and I have staff that live less than 20 minutes away telling me they aren't sure they'll be able to make it in. Wusses! ETA - what would I say - "You knew there would be snow and ice and should have planned on getting up earlier to deal with it". What time is normal opening? It really depends upon where they live vs where you live. When I lived in Boston, I lived on one of the side roads and we rarely got plowed first, second or even third. Just getting out to a plowed road was a big pain. So my boss, who lived 30 miles away via main thoroughfares could get in easily but my 3 mile commute was a bitch that could easily take 90 minutes. So rather than driving, I'd walk to the T only to have 8 trains pass me packed to the gills because everyone else that was in town had the same problem. Good point. Actually didn't think about that.
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Post by Opti on Feb 2, 2015 15:48:59 GMT -5
Having cleared off my car a couple hours ago, I understand why he did them all before coming in. Temps dropped faster than I expected and the snow was nice and crunchy already. Would be a PITA clearing off ice/wet crystalized snow if I waited until tomorrow.
I'm curious if he lives north of where you work. West and south should have had the snowfall stop earlier, north later.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 2, 2015 16:14:19 GMT -5
A note on a "consistent policy":
In a past job, I had a classroom full of special education high school students. Some had learning disabilities, some behavior disorders, some borderline mental retardation. My answer to complaints about my treating them differently was: "I treat all of you exactly the same, as the unique individual you are with your own unique needs and your own unique challenges."
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 2, 2015 17:28:03 GMT -5
I bet they can't wait for your retirement or transfer. they're ADULTS. fully able to manage their time and get to work on schedule. If they can't manage that the majority of the time, then there needs to be some sort of consequences. I don't understand why that's unreasonable. I get that sometimes things happen that are beyond all control, but we're talking about the chronically late. That's avoidable. I think it is about setting expectations. I don't care if my staff are late as long as they get their work done (most are staying well past the typical 5pm quitting time). and my boss is chronically late...like 30 minutes late every day. It is the running joke. If anyone gets there and sees his car in the parking lot we all think we are REALLY late!lol Therefore, starting promptly at 8 is not a huge priority in my company. Because of the type of work we do we don't have to be there right at 8...we all know what we need to get done on a daily basis and none of us leave until it is done.
If I worked for a time clock Nazi then I would be sure I was there at 8...but I would also be sure not to be there at 6:30 am when I have super huge deadlines...it is all about give and take. If you want to be a dick and bitch at me for being 5 minutes late, don't expect me to bend over backwards for the company. Actually, I probably couldn't work for one of those people that stand by the clock and watch people coming in just to see if they are late...and then dock them vacation!
Of course I'm salaried as are 5 out of 6 of my employees.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 2, 2015 17:31:10 GMT -5
I didn't go into work today. Screw it. Me neither...let them fire me for it...please!lol
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 2, 2015 17:36:13 GMT -5
It seems like there are different kinds of expectations for salaried jobs. One where you are expected to have your ass in your seat 8-5, M-F, and another where you get your work done, and nobody cares when/where that happens. It sounds like this one is more like the first one, I guess. I guess it depends on how much more than 40 hours/week an individual works? I don't know. I am curious about it though. My work was more like the first one, but flexible in that you could make up your time on other days/early/late. Is the second type more related to higher-level professionals? This reminds me of a thread I saw on the MMM forum called something like, "how much do you really work at work?" Answer: it wasn't anywhere near to 8 hours, despite putting in a lot of face time. I wonder if that has to do with higher-level positions as well? There were several people I used to work with for whom I wondered, "what the hell do they do all day?" ETA: I got the name of the thread wrong, but I found it: forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/the-art-of-not-working-at-work/ Valid point...I'm not a micromanager so I let my people function without much interference (to the extent possible). I find it helps build professionalism and so far, I have not had a problem with many people taking advantage. Those that do don't last long. I'm laid back as far as flexibility but not work product. I set the tone the minute I was promoted. Within two weeks, I fired someone!lol
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 2, 2015 17:41:53 GMT -5
I think it is about setting expectations. I don't care if my staff are late as long as they get their work done (most are staying well past the typical 5pm quitting time). and my boss is chronically late...like 30 minutes late every day. It is the running joke. If anyone gets there and sees his car in the parking lot we all think we are REALLY late!lol Therefore, starting promptly at 8 is not a huge priority in my company. Because of the type of work we do we don't have to be there right at 8...we all know what we need to get done on a daily basis and none of us leave until it is done.
If I worked for a time clock Nazi then I would be sure I was there at 8...but I would also be sure not to be there at 6:30 am when I have super huge deadlines...it is all about give and take. If you want to be a dick and bitch at me for being 5 minutes late, don't expect me to bend over backwards for the company. Actually, I probably couldn't work for one of those people that stand by the clock and watch people coming in just to see if they are late...and then dock them vacation!
Of course I'm salaried as are 5 out of 6 of my employees.
It also depends on the nature of the work. If you have people doing things creatively, it's best to let them have a free reign on their time management. What point is it to get into work at 8 or 9 if they don't get their creative juices flowing till post-lunch? If it a task or project based work - and they just need to complete some specific things by a deadline, then there is very little point to micromanaging their time in and out. Some jobs depend on timeliness. Phone or counter coverage has to begin at a certain time. shift work sometimes needs a person continuously in place, or needs an entire team to begin. So - there are those considerations. But to be strict on time in/time out just because that was they way school was - seems unnecessary. We are in Finance...my staff better not be creative!lol
But I do understand what you are saying. WE don't work shifts like the guys in our plant so there is no one waiting on us. We have extremely tight deadlines so if we come in late it just means we are stuck at the office even later.
Don't get me wrong, if someone decided they weren't going to show up until 10 each day, I would have a problem. But I don't worry myself if someone came in at 8 or 8:15...we are all salaried (except my accounts payable clerk - and she is in way before me!) so it doesnt' really matter as long as we meet our deadlines.
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Post by 973beachbum on Feb 2, 2015 18:09:40 GMT -5
Snow and ice are really tricky to me. I am almost OCD about being on time. I get a knot in my stomach if I am only 5 minutes early. I really like to be at work 30 minutes early so I can calmly go about getting myself and my work ready for me to do. I said I was OCD. Snow and ice though are totally different. I used to have one boss who lived right off the major highway. I lived on a road that the town had the opinion that they would plow it if and when they got a chance and if that meant we waited until the spring thaw so be it. So there were some days that I would call in and say that myself and most of the other residents of the road were shoveling ourselves out. She would flip out that I lived 30 minutes closer than her so it wasn't possible that I couldn't get in easier than her. Where I live now the biggest problem is really ice. Some days it rains when the ground is frozen. I don't care how great my SUV's 4WD is I would need to put ice skates on it to make it to work in one piece. The best are tourists from some northern tundra whining about how great they are where they live. They get four or five feet of snow and just push it out of the way and are at work as usual. The last time I actually snarked that where do they live that they get four or five feet of ice, because if they just push that out of the way and go then I would be impressed. But we didn't get snow, we got ice.
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Post by 973beachbum on Feb 2, 2015 18:13:37 GMT -5
I will say that at my second job I work with some incredible slackers! Coming in late is called Tuesday for them. Them calling out sometimes actually makes it easier though. At least then we don't have one extra speed bump to have to get around to get the customers taken care of.
As far as managing them I would be more strict, but it works both ways. There are things that the company does that totally piss everyone off to the point that I can see how it gives us all a f#@! them attitude. It really is a balancing act and the managers who are the most fair and even handed do get the best work out of people.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 2, 2015 18:14:11 GMT -5
I didn't go into work today. Screw it. I so wish I didn't have to! But I had appointments today and work on commission. If I don't work, we don't eat. I have a cold and my boss told me today that I sounded pretty rough. If I had an aassistant, I wouldn't have set foot in this office today.
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Post by Shooby on Feb 2, 2015 19:54:24 GMT -5
Unclear expectations are the root of all problems in the work world in my opinion. Well, not ALL but many. If this is a relaxed, show up as you please type of environment, then people tend to get more lassie faire about the whole thing. You either establish some hard times or not. And, of course, we all understand that people get flat tires or other circumstances can happen resulting in someone being late, so not suggesting an all or nothing approach. But, I have worked at places where if you were late 3x, you were fired. I was never late. And, it is the responsibility of the employee to get up early enough and plan their travel to work. Again, things happen and we need to treat people like human beings, but you also should not set up your dept to get walked on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 20:27:56 GMT -5
Teachers basically punch a time clock . . . but only on the way in. You have to be here at a certain time, or the TimeClock Nazi will charge you an absence (at least half-a-day). She does at least email you first to see if you are actually HERE and the clocking-in system malfunctioned (which isn't unusual).
My students are all into "flex time" as in "We don't want to show up on time." My rule is that you show up before I can click the posting button for attendance. They are pretty surly about it, to be honest.
My son is now managing employees, and he has trouble with one employee. She has the same problem as my students and is also surly about it.
Does the new generation not understand the concept of definitive start times? I know ending times flex. I can't always leave when school is out. But I have to be here when it starts.
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Post by teen persuasion on Feb 2, 2015 21:05:52 GMT -5
The text at 6:30 am is fair - first big storm in November DH drove in to work only to be told to go home, they were closing (and oldtimers told him the company NEVER closes). Our county didn't get the storm that dropped up to 6' of snow but his office was on the edge of the affected area, so the next day DH wasn't sure whether they were again closed due to traffic bans, or were waiting to decide. A text before opening time minus travel time would have been nice. Our school district is closed today, so I had a feeling my library might close too, that is the general decision maker. My email showed that many other system libraries were either closed or closing early, too. Sure enough, a co-worker called to confirm it. I put up closing notices to our social media and website from home. Everything else just waits for tomorrow, though I suspect coworker went in to do payroll, and catchup on things after being out sick last week. We are a little short staffed, but we cover for each other when necessary, and the favor is returned later. It works well because we all feel responsible to the community. That and it is a small town, everyone knows everyone else's business.
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Post by alabamagal on Feb 2, 2015 21:31:04 GMT -5
First thing is that I have never in my life had a snow day. We had a few flood days at my previous days. And my new job may have a snow day once a year, but it would never involve having to dig out a car.
I have been a professional for 28 years. It has alwYs been about "these are the general work hours and expectations" and you were rated based on what you accomplished , not what time you sat in your chair. I have always averaged more than 40 per week, but if things were slow I might sneak out early a time or too. And if I did not show up at 8 we'll ok.
If I had a boss who said "you must be at your desk at 8" my reaction would be "I must leave at 5" and my productivity would go down.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 2, 2015 21:57:35 GMT -5
First thing is that I have never in my life had a snow day. We had a few flood days at my previous days. And my new job may have a snow day once a year, but it would never involve having to dig out a car. I have been a professional for 28 years. It has alwYs been about "these are the general work hours and expectations" and you were rated based on what you accomplished , not what time you sat in your chair. I have always averaged more than 40 per week, but if things were slow I might sneak out early a time or too. And if I did not show up at 8 we'll ok. If I had a boss who said "you must be at your desk at 8" my reaction would be "I must leave at 5" and my productivity would go down. So much this...
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