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Post by Angel! on Feb 1, 2015 16:00:06 GMT -5
Liberals hate to be reminded of the price of their policies! 2% increase - totally worth it!
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Post by b2r on Feb 1, 2015 16:05:05 GMT -5
Liberals hate to be reminded of the price of their policies! 2% increase - totally worth it! Then quit crying if you see it displayed...own it...embrace it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 16:36:08 GMT -5
Liberals hate to be reminded of the price of their policies! Bingo! It's offensive. Paying for it, meh. Taking about it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 19:16:26 GMT -5
Of course it is a political statement. Only anti-ACA proponents or the naive would think otherwise. Or people with common sense. I wouldn't have a problem with this even if I backed Obamacare. I view it the same as I view the "Fuel surcharge" that I saw until recently on many delivery things we have delivered to the Motel. Gas prices went up (through the freaking roof!), so they tacked on a fuel surcharge. (interesting note, many of them stopped adding the surcharge once gas got back below $2.50/gallon) ETA: wouldn't "ACA opponents" have made more sense than "anti-ACA proponents"?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 19:19:01 GMT -5
Post #2 (reply #1, actually) was in response to EVT's comment of " I would gladly pay 2% more for anything I buy if I was assured it would go directly to providing health insurance for the employees. The message that receipt really sends is that we are a greedy bunch of dicks" The receipt STATES that the 2% is going to healthcare... yet he thinks they are "a greedy bunch of dicks". Since DJ's point was not attributed, and since there are some people that understand there's nothing wrong with it being a "line item"... that's not exactly an invalid assumption. At worst, it's a "coin toss". So, I say again. I didn't mischaracterize anything. for the record, I wasn't responding to the greedy dicks comment either. did you assume I was? It was above your post, in the thread... so I did factor in that it WAS a possibility.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 19:21:34 GMT -5
Liberals hate to be reminded of the price of their policies! 2% increase - totally worth it! If it covered everything, I'd agree with you! (unfortunately "employer provided insurance plans" only cover a "drop in the bucket" {as the saying goes} of the expenses of Obamacare)
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Feb 1, 2015 19:27:33 GMT -5
All they had to do was raise all prices 10%. No comment at the bottom.
DH had to change providers because they were raising his rates above what our monthly income is. He switched companies and again has to fight for any reduction. I'm on SS so I have Medicare plus supplements. He has a few years to go for that.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 20:39:50 GMT -5
for the record, I wasn't responding to the greedy dicks comment either. did you assume I was? It was above your post, in the thread... so I did factor in that it WAS a possibility. yeah, i can see how you got there. that is why i asked.
see how easy that was?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 20:41:43 GMT -5
Liberals hate to be reminded of the price of their policies! whereas conservatives blithely ignore the costs of their debacles, or claim that they actually produced surpluses.
that sounds about right.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 20:46:00 GMT -5
Liberals hate to be reminded of the price of their policies! Bingo! It's offensive. Paying for it, meh. Taking about it?
i don't mind talking about it. we just spent two pages talking about it.
i don't like vendors scoring political points while i am shopping. is that so difficult to understand?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 20:54:45 GMT -5
let me put it another way: i would gladly pay 4% to not have to read this crap on my way to the total.
so, add 2% in to cover your costs, and i will pay you another 2% to keep your politics to yourself.
that goes for liberals, conservatives, and moderates.
got me?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:45:57 GMT -5
Bingo! It's offensive. Paying for it, meh. Taking about it?
i don't mind talking about it. we just spent two pages talking about it.
i don't like vendors scoring political points while i am shopping. is that so difficult to understand?
Yes. A vendor making a political statement/speaking his mind/airing his views/ making a statement. Written, verbal, how ever Extremely offensive. How dare he.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 1, 2015 22:54:03 GMT -5
i don't mind talking about it. we just spent two pages talking about it.
i don't like vendors scoring political points while i am shopping. is that so difficult to understand?
Yes. A vendor making a political statement/speaking his mind/airing his views/ making a statement. Written, verbal, how ever Extremely offensive. How dare he.
Would you be okay for a restaurant to add on a 2% charge to your tab to help the restaurant financially support Planned Parenthood and to keep abortion legal? While I support the right of a woman to decide for herself what is best for her, I would most definately consider the extra charge on my tab political and not appropriate How about you? Would you be okay if a restaurant automatically charged you a dollar for their charity which supports displaced Palestianians whose homes were bombed and destroyed by Israel? Political statement?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 22:58:57 GMT -5
Yes. A vendor making a political statement/speaking his mind/airing his views/ making a statement. Written, verbal, how ever Extremely offensive. How dare he.
Would you be okay for a restaurant to add on a 2% charge to your tab to help the restaurant financially support Planned Parenthood and to keep abortion legal? While I support the right of a woman to decide for herself what is best for her, I would most definately consider the extra charge on my tab political and not appropriate How about you? Would you be okay if a restaurant automatically charged you a dollar for their charity which supports displaced Palestianians whose homes were bombed and destroyed by Israel? Political statement? how about a 2% surcharge to support the legalization of pedophilia?
seriously, how committed does everyone want to get about "freedom of speech"?
again, I would like to emphasize that when I am out for wings, I want wings, not politics. I get my politics here for free.
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Post by Opti on Feb 1, 2015 23:00:10 GMT -5
I think its more likely she'd approve of a school budget surcharge at her local restaurant, but it is just a hunch.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 1, 2015 23:01:16 GMT -5
Would you be okay for a restaurant to add on a 2% charge to your tab to help the restaurant financially support Planned Parenthood and to keep abortion legal? While I support the right of a woman to decide for herself what is best for her, I would most definately consider the extra charge on my tab political and not appropriate How about you? Would you be okay if a restaurant automatically charged you a dollar for their charity which supports displaced Palestianians whose homes were bombed and destroyed by Israel? Political statement? how about a 2% surcharge to support the legalization of pedophilia?
seriously, how committed does everyone want to get about "freedom of speech"?
again, I would like to emphasize that when I am out for wings, I want wings, not politics. I get my politics here for free.
I hear you. NAMBLA defense fund!
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 23:04:35 GMT -5
how about a 2% surcharge to support the legalization of pedophilia?
seriously, how committed does everyone want to get about "freedom of speech"?
again, I would like to emphasize that when I am out for wings, I want wings, not politics. I get my politics here for free.
I hear you. NAMBLA defense fund! Westboro Baptist Church Defense Fund.
seriously. if you can't see where this all leads, then you are not thinking about it deeply enough.
and here is the thing, the owners can quietly do all of that stuff if they want. it is not only offensive, it is STUPID to make an issue out of it. the key to doing business in this world is to be as INOFFENSIVE AS POSSIBLE. you want to put your customers at ease, even if you have it in mind to do something that most of them would disagree with. anything else is bad business.
but some people are more committed to their "values" than they are to their profits. sobeit. we, as customers, can fix that for them.
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Yes. A vendor making a political statement/speaking his mind/airing his views/ making a statement. Written, verbal, how ever Extremely offensive. How dare he.
Would you be okay for a restaurant to add on a 2% charge to your tab to help the restaurant financially support Planned Parenthood and to keep abortion legal? While I support the right of a woman to decide for herself what is best for her, I would most definately consider the extra charge on my tab political and not appropriate How about you? Would you be okay if a restaurant automatically charged you a dollar for their charity which supports displaced Palestianians whose homes were bombed and destroyed by Israel? Political statement? You bet I would. I support freedom of speech in almost any form. My delicate sensibilities just not as delicate as some of you offended by any thing that you do or don't happen to support. You know what I don't support? Businesses blackmailed and threatened into either supporting a political cause or having to shut up about the ones they don't agree with. The liberal tantrum at it's finest.
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I hear you. NAMBLA defense fund! Westboro Baptist Church Defense Fund.
seriously. if you can't see where this all leads, then you are not thinking about it deeply enough.
and here is the thing, the owners can quietly do all of that stuff if they want. it is not only offensive, it is STUPID to make an issue out of it. the key to doing business in this world is to be as INOFFENSIVE AS POSSIBLE. you want to put your customers at ease, even if you have it in mind to do something that most of them would disagree with. anything else is bad business.
but some people are more committed to their "values" than they are to their profits. sobeit. we, as customers, can fix that for them.
How committed? It depends on how much I like my pizza, when I want a good pizza. I make my political statements in a voting booth or on a message board. I don't scrutinize the political views of every establishment I do business with. That's what you guys are for.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 2, 2015 0:02:08 GMT -5
Would you be okay for a restaurant to add on a 2% charge to your tab to help the restaurant financially support Planned Parenthood and to keep abortion legal? While I support the right of a woman to decide for herself what is best for her, I would most definately consider the extra charge on my tab political and not appropriate How about you? Would you be okay if a restaurant automatically charged you a dollar for their charity which supports displaced Palestianians whose homes were bombed and destroyed by Israel? Political statement? You bet I would. I support freedom of speech in almost any form. My delicate sensibilities just not as delicate as some of you offended by any thing that you do or don't happen to support. You know what I don't support? Businesses blackmailed and threatened into either supporting a political cause or having to shut up about the ones they don't agree with. The liberal tantrum at it's finest.
I imagine then you would be okay with having to pay a 2% surcharge which is to be contributed to the Democratic Party and will say the same on your tab. Not a voluntary 2% (or no %) but a mandatory 2% contribution.
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You bet I would. I support freedom of speech in almost any form. My delicate sensibilities just not as delicate as some of you offended by any thing that you do or don't happen to support. You know what I don't support? Businesses blackmailed and threatened into either supporting a political cause or having to shut up about the ones they don't agree with. The liberal tantrum at it's finest.
I imagine then you would be okay with having to pay a 2% surcharge which is to be contributed to the Democratic Party and will say the same on your tab. Not a voluntary 2% (or no %) but a mandatory 2% contribution. If I supported the federal law that made it possible that I would have to pay a mandatory contribution of 2% to the Democratic party I can't see any reason I would be ashamed to acknowledge that or offended by someone who reminded me of that. WTF? Really?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 1:18:16 GMT -5
Yes. A vendor making a political statement/speaking his mind/airing his views/ making a statement. Written, verbal, how ever Extremely offensive. How dare he.
Would you be okay for a restaurant to add on a 2% charge to your tab to help the restaurant financially support Planned Parenthood and to keep abortion legal? While I support the right of a woman to decide for herself what is best for her, I would most definately consider the extra charge on my tab political and not appropriate How about you? Would you be okay if a restaurant automatically charged you a dollar for their charity which supports displaced Palestianians whose homes were bombed and destroyed by Israel? Political statement? I know you weren't asking me... but... which of them is required by law? Another way of looking at it... is it a "political statement" to have a line item for tax? If it's not a "political statement" to have it for tax, then I don't consider it a political statement to have this "FL Surcharge Afford Care"" line item.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 2, 2015 1:40:47 GMT -5
Westboro Baptist Church Defense Fund.
seriously. if you can't see where this all leads, then you are not thinking about it deeply enough.
and here is the thing, the owners can quietly do all of that stuff if they want. it is not only offensive, it is STUPID to make an issue out of it. the key to doing business in this world is to be as INOFFENSIVE AS POSSIBLE. you want to put your customers at ease, even if you have it in mind to do something that most of them would disagree with. anything else is bad business.
but some people are more committed to their "values" than they are to their profits. sobeit. we, as customers, can fix that for them.
How committed? It depends on how much I like my pizza, when I want a good pizza. I make my political statements in a voting booth or on a message board. I don't scrutinize the political views of every establishment I do business with. That's what you guys are for.
does it? it has nothing whatsoever to do with food for me. nor does it have to do with "scrutinizing". rather it has to do with having people who I am soliciting business from shoving their beliefs, their politics, and their personal opinions down my throat at the point of transaction. you apparently are fine with that, which is great for you, i guess. enjoy your DNC pizza.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 2, 2015 1:42:51 GMT -5
Would you be okay for a restaurant to add on a 2% charge to your tab to help the restaurant financially support Planned Parenthood and to keep abortion legal? While I support the right of a woman to decide for herself what is best for her, I would most definately consider the extra charge on my tab political and not appropriate How about you? Would you be okay if a restaurant automatically charged you a dollar for their charity which supports displaced Palestianians whose homes were bombed and destroyed by Israel? Political statement? You bet I would. I support freedom of speech in almost any form. My delicate sensibilities just not as delicate as some of you offended by any thing that you do or don't happen to support. You know what I don't support? Businesses blackmailed and threatened into either supporting a political cause or having to shut up about the ones they don't agree with.
The liberal tantrum at it's finest.
again, they have every right to bill me for whatever they want (actually, that is not entirely true, but i will set that point aside for the sake of argument), and i have the right to take my business elsewhere, and to express my opinion as to why i think others should do the same.
for me, the issue is whether I am going to be expected to PAY for someone's personal politics, and I damn well won't.
"tantrum" over.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 2:35:13 GMT -5
You bet I would. I support freedom of speech in almost any form. My delicate sensibilities just not as delicate as some of you offended by any thing that you do or don't happen to support. You know what I don't support? Businesses blackmailed and threatened into either supporting a political cause or having to shut up about the ones they don't agree with. The liberal tantrum at it's finest.
I support free speech of all kinds as well, but that has precisely nothing to do with this issue.
the issue is whether I am going to be expected to PAY for someone's free speech, and I damn well won't.
If you don't want to eat at this dudes restaurant I am all good with that. Boycotting out of existence seem like some pretty extreme measures and yes I find it funny that this gets you all bunched up so bad.
I see you have deleted the part of your post with your personal advice on my posts. I will delete mine also then and just say this.This is a political message board dj. If you don't like my posts, you don't like my posting style and you don't want to engage with me that's just fine. That's as personal as I'm going to get here and I suggest you do the same or ignore my posts.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 2, 2015 4:11:28 GMT -5
How committed? It depends on how much I like my pizza, when I want a good pizza. I make my political statements in a voting booth or on a message board. I don't scrutinize the political views of every establishment I do business with. That's what you guys are for.
does it? it has nothing whatsoever to do with food for me. nor does it have to do with "scrutinizing". rather it has to do with having people who I am soliciting business from shoving their beliefs, their politics, and their personal opinions down my throat at the point of transaction. you apparently are fine with that, which is great for you, i guess. enjoy your DNC pizza.
Actually no one is " shoving their beliefs, their politics, and their personal opinions down your throat at the point of transaction." You have the choice of not patronizing the establishment..going elsewhere for what ever type of food you were in the mood to eat ...It will be the businesses owners who will have to make the decision to continue the policy or not ..loss of business ..though as I said earlier ..I believe they might gain as much as they lose in customers...those who are fine with , as in the model presented here, a 2% surcharge to be applied to health care benefits..contributing and allowing the workers to work full time rather then part time and have the same health coverage as those patrons have...
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 2, 2015 12:21:20 GMT -5
does it? it has nothing whatsoever to do with food for me. nor does it have to do with "scrutinizing". rather it has to do with having people who I am soliciting business from shoving their beliefs, their politics, and their personal opinions down my throat at the point of transaction. you apparently are fine with that, which is great for you, i guess. enjoy your DNC pizza.
Actually no one is " shoving their beliefs, their politics, and their personal opinions down your throat at the point of transaction." You have the choice of not patronizing the establishment..going elsewhere for what ever type of food you were in the mood to eat ...It will be the businesses owners who will have to make the decision to continue the policy or not ..loss of business ..though as I said earlier ..I believe they might gain as much as they lose in customers...those who are fine with , as in the model presented here, a 2% surcharge to be applied to health care benefits..contributing and allowing the workers to work full time rather then part time and have the same health coverage as those patrons have... you say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to. I already said that I had the choice of not eating there, and I would exercise it RATHER than having their politics shoved down my throat. what spurred the uprising on the part of the wing wanker was that I said I would boycott him. that was a tit for tat argument on my part. they ask me to pay for their politics, they expose themselves to the risk of paying for mine.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 2, 2015 12:32:41 GMT -5
I support free speech of all kinds as well, but that has precisely nothing to do with this issue.
the issue is whether I am going to be expected to PAY for someone's free speech, and I damn well won't.
If you don't want to eat at this dudes restaurant I am all good with that. Boycotting out of existence seem like some pretty extreme measures and yes I find it funny that this gets you all bunched up so bad.
I'm not bunched up. but if it pleases you to think so, then enjoy yourself.
I see you have deleted the part of your post with your personal advice on my posts. I will delete mine also then and just say this.This is a political message board dj. If you don't like my posts, you don't like my posting style and you don't want to engage with me that's just fine. That's as personal as I'm going to get here and I suggest you do the same or ignore my posts.
why would i want to engage with you if i liked your posts? that seems absurd to me.
and why would i NOT want to engage with you if i didn't? that defies logic.
and nothing is personal for me here, sweets. nothing. it is all 1's and 0's. i don't care what you think of me, but for the record, i don't think of you at all. i don't know if you are a man or woman, young or old, black or white, Republican or Democrat. i don't "like" or "dislike" posters here, because, as i have often said, i don't know any of you. i just look at posts, and i respond to them "in kind" based on merit, or lack thereof. if it is a discussion worth having, i will be part of it, and if it is not, then i won't. i am very interested in the business related discussions because i live them every day, and will rarely miss the opportunity to offer my opinion on them.
again: my opinion is that businesses are best off not pulling back the curtain and showing people what is going on on their balance sheets and income and expense reports. there are only two possible reactions to that, and neither of them are any good for the business. the first is for customers to be agitated at the cost itself, which is a distraction from what you are trying to sell. the second is that it pisses them off that you even mention it.
customers often ask what my markup is. i never tell them. i WILL sometimes volunteer what my net profit is, so that they know that the discount they are asking for would eat every penny of it. but other than that, i don't make an issue out of my costs, because, imo, it is bad business. i doubt we disagree on that, but i don't care if we do.
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If you don't want to eat at this dudes restaurant I am all good with that. Boycotting out of existence seem like some pretty extreme measures and yes I find it funny that this gets you all bunched up so bad.
I'm not bunched up. but if it pleases you to think so, then enjoy yourself.
I see you have deleted the part of your post with your personal advice on my posts. I will delete mine also then and just say this.This is a political message board dj. If you don't like my posts, you don't like my posting style and you don't want to engage with me that's just fine. That's as personal as I'm going to get here and I suggest you do the same or ignore my posts.
why would i want to engage with you if i liked your posts? that seems absurd to me.
and why would i NOT want to engage with you if i didn't? that defies logic.
and nothing is personal for me here, sweets. nothing. it is all 1's and 0's. i don't care what you think of me, but for the record, i don't think of you at all. i don't know if you are a man or woman, young or old, black or white, Republican or Democrat. i don't "like" or "dislike" posters here, because, as i have often said, i don't know any of you. i just look at posts, and i respond to them "in kind" based on merit, or lack thereof. if it is a discussion worth having, i will be part of it, and if it is not, then i won't. i am very interested in the business related discussions because i live them every day, and will rarely miss the opportunity to offer my opinion on them.
again: my opinion is that businesses are best off not pulling back the curtain and showing people what is going on on their balance sheets and income and expense reports. there are only two possible reactions to that, and neither of them are any good for the business. the first is for customers to be agitated at the cost itself, which is a distraction from what you are trying to sell. the second is that it pisses them off that you even mention it.
customers often ask what my markup is. i never tell them. i WILL sometimes volunteer what my net profit is, so that they know that the discount they are asking for would eat every penny of it. but other than that, i don't make an issue out of my costs, because, imo, it is bad business. i doubt we disagree on that, but i don't care if we do.
You are not bunched up about it but would like to boycott him out of business why then?
If you can't shut them up then call them names ("wing wanker ")? Luckily some of us don't get as offended by words and speech as easily others.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 2, 2015 14:07:52 GMT -5
Actually no one is " shoving their beliefs, their politics, and their personal opinions down your throat at the point of transaction." You have the choice of not patronizing the establishment..going elsewhere for what ever type of food you were in the mood to eat ...It will be the businesses owners who will have to make the decision to continue the policy or not ..loss of business ..though as I said earlier ..I believe they might gain as much as they lose in customers...those who are fine with , as in the model presented here, a 2% surcharge to be applied to health care benefits..contributing and allowing the workers to work full time rather then part time and have the same health coverage as those patrons have... you say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to. I already said that I had the choice of not eating there, and I would exercise it RATHER than having their politics shoved down my throat. what spurred the uprising on the part of the wing wanker was that I said I would boycott him. that was a tit for tat argument on my part. they ask me to pay for their politics, they expose themselves to the risk of paying for mine. I believe a person's right to publicly boycott a restaurant and to orally and verbally disparage the restaurant on the Internet and other forms of media for the restaurant's political position is the same free speech right as the franchise owner's right to list and demand payment on the restaurant tab for the 'FL Surcharge Afford Care'. A poster seems to think "Boycotting out of existence seem like some pretty extreme measures". Yet boycotting is free speech. Either you support free speech without any conditions attached or you do not support free speech. I also believe your free speech ends at the tip of my nose. Why should I have to pay a mandatory surcharge for your right to free speech? I should be free to exercise my free speech too by deducting the surcharge from my restaurant tab and paying only the remainder. Free speech only for some, eh?
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