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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 15:59:56 GMT -5
I believe I already covered how it is far different. We have a radical anti-colonialist lunatic in the White House from under the wing of Frank Marshall Davis, underwent 22 years of incubation in the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's racialist black liberation theology church whose political career was birthed from the womb of unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers' Hyde Park living room.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 16:00:43 GMT -5
In other words- not an oversight, and not mere incompetence. But deliberate disdain for his own country and the West in general.
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Post by Opti on Jan 12, 2015 16:27:04 GMT -5
I believe I already covered how it is far different. We have a radical anti-colonialist lunatic in the White House from under the wing of Frank Marshall Davis, underwent 22 years of incubation in the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's racialist black liberation theology church whose political career was birthed from the womb of unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers' Hyde Park living room.Translation- it is different because I don't like his politics.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2015 16:37:01 GMT -5
The chair in Cocoa Beach
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 12, 2015 16:39:13 GMT -5
Why isn't Paul in the chair whining?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 12, 2015 16:52:21 GMT -5
It seems , according to latest news, a mistake was made and recognized by administration...a higher ranked representative should have been sent..not necessarily the POTUS, there are legitimate security concerns..out in the open in public..the world being what it is ..Yes I know other leaders were present but there are other leaders and then there is the POTUS...{Putin was missing too I believe..}.. but administration did admit a mistake...and we move on...See below www.courant.com/nation-world/chi-white-house-admits-error-20150112-story.html"In a a rare public admission of error, the White House said Monday the U.S. should have sent a high-level official to an anti-terror march in Paris that was attended by more than 40 world leaders."
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 12, 2015 16:56:17 GMT -5
I believe I already covered how it is far different. We have a radical anti-colonialist lunatic in the White House from under the wing of Frank Marshall Davis, underwent 22 years of incubation in the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's racialist black liberation theology church whose political career was birthed from the womb of unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers' Hyde Park living room. Blah, Blah Blah...such unendulturated BS ..... ....
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 17:22:33 GMT -5
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Jan 12, 2015 17:27:58 GMT -5
I think the appropriate person to attend would have been the highest ranking official at the U.S. Embassy. Or the diplomat to France
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2015 17:43:04 GMT -5
How about a response to reply 21.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 12, 2015 18:00:53 GMT -5
I have no problem when officials admit to making mistakes..our previouse POTUS and his followers felt to do so was a show of weakness ..in their and their followers mind..{You Paul? } better to go down the road of the broken bridge rather then turn back and find another way to go and heaven for bid admit a mistake...In a six plus year term mistakes will be made...to admit to them and move on , no problem to me...In this one a very small one but for the same people..{ Fox for example..} to over blow it and carp on it as it is a hugh earth shaking deal..remember when the Presidential Limo got caught in the drive way over seas, POTUS was made to be personally responsible for the goof..same claim made when went to India, claimed half the US Navy sent along as security..{ Didn't happen ..}and all the other BS that same people have put out there.. I still say that a lot of the negatives are because there are people who really don't like a person of color in that position..POTUS..it bugs the crap out of them...sorry, I so believe and will stick to that feeling..
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Post by mroped on Jan 12, 2015 18:07:37 GMT -5
A few days ago, some children were kidnaped by an extremist group in Kenya. Yesterday one of the radical factions in South Sudan killed X number of villagers because... And so on!
In the whole wide world, daily hundreds of people are dying at the hand of extremists.
I agree, this "good for nothing" as Paul would say president should've been there. And in Sudan, and in Kenya and maybe in Thailand since something hapened there too!
That is all traveling and involves Aairforce One and a slew of Secret Service and is all very expensive.
I'd rather have the President stay in US than have Paul next week complain about how much money he's spending " taking vacations when he should be working"
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 18:18:00 GMT -5
A few days ago, some children were kidnaped by an extremist group in Kenya. Yesterday one of the radical factions in South Sudan killed X number of villagers because... And so on! In the whole wide world, daily hundreds of people are dying at the hand of extremists. ... Baga, Nigeria www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30788480
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 12, 2015 18:20:31 GMT -5
Okay, folks. Let's stop making paul the focus of this, eh? Disagree with vigor, and disagree with rational thought. Personally, I don't see why paul would be the star player in something like this, but that's what you're accomplishing, as I see it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 12, 2015 18:35:35 GMT -5
I believe I already covered how it is far different. We have a radical anti-colonialist lunatic in the White House from under the wing of Frank Marshall Davis, underwent 22 years of incubation in the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's racialist black liberation theology church whose political career was birthed from the womb of unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers' Hyde Park living room. i must have missed the connection between all of this and "Islamic radicalism". but i think i see where you are heading, so i will just get to the point. a very important component in this war is language. and YES, i really do feel that way. why? because it is the organizing principle of "the enemy". without their words, they are simply nothing. it is through their words that they recruit and accreted power. i think Bush did them a huge favor by labeling them in a way that not only reinforced their message, but made us a clearer enemy. Obama's refusal to do that is strategically really smart. you can take a lot from Obama- but he knows the power of rhetoric better than anyone since Reagan. and Bush was as dumb as a post in this respect. his contribution to the side of our enemy is duly noted. he behaved in a way which confirmed everything bad they had to say about us. it made for picture perfect PR for radicals, and led to 1000 baby Islamo-Ayers' rising up against us, including many of the most recent examples.
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Post by mroped on Jan 12, 2015 18:47:22 GMT -5
That was a cheap shot that I've taken at Paul and I apologiaze!
The POTUS didn't have to be there. There are so many things that he needs to attend in the country and many other places around the world that his presence might require. How do you decide which one is the most important? I believe that was already mentioned that the heads of states just about upstaged the French people and their protest. Moreover, having so many heads of states in one place wasn't that a "target rich" environment for the extremists/terrorists? Maybe that's why he didn't go. however one of the US Embasy people should have been there to show solidarity.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2015 19:05:00 GMT -5
That was a cheap shot that I've taken at Paul and I apologiaze! The POTUS didn't have to be there. There are so many things that he needs to attend in the country and many other places around the world that his presence might require. How do you decide which one is the most important? I believe that was already mentioned that the heads of states just about upstaged the French people and their protest. Moreover, having so many heads of states in one place wasn't that a "target rich" environment for the extremists/terrorists? Maybe that's why he didn't go. however one of the US Embasy people should have been there to show solidarity. The U.S. ambassador to France was there. Just not in the front row.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 20:44:45 GMT -5
... The U.S. ambassador to France was there. Just not in the front row. Can you imagine the protocol headache on this one.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 12, 2015 21:09:37 GMT -5
That was a cheap shot that I've taken at Paul and I apologiaze! The POTUS didn't have to be there. There are so many things that he needs to attend in the country and many other places around the world that his presence might require. How do you decide which one is the most important? I believe that was already mentioned that the heads of states just about upstaged the French people and their protest. Moreover, having so many heads of states in one place wasn't that a "target rich" environment for the extremists/terrorists? Maybe that's why he didn't go. however one of the US Embasy people should have been there to show solidarity. The U.S. ambassador to France was there. Just not in the front row. No, she was assigned towards the back of the proverbial bus of the group of international leaders. Check out where they had her in the crowd. Of course someone had to be in the back of the group......but I have to wonder if she was not given that location on purpose.
Like I stated earlier, Biden or Kerry should have been there, imo
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2015 21:12:18 GMT -5
... The U.S. ambassador to France was there. Just not in the front row. Can you imagine the protocol headache on this one. I imagine similar to JFK's funeral and all the world leaders walking behind Jackie, Robert and Ted Kennedy, who were walking behind the limber and the caisson which carried Kennedy's casket. I can still hear my mother marveling about the diminutive Haile Selassie walking among all the world leaders, royality and other dignitaries.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2015 21:15:40 GMT -5
The U.S. ambassador to France was there. Just not in the front row. No, she was assigned towards the back of the proverbial bus of the group of international leaders. Check out where they had her in the crowd. Of course someone had to be in the back of the group......but I have to wonder if she was not given that location on purpose.
Like I stated earlier, Biden or Kerry should have been there, imo
Shouldn't that say "Yes [she was there]. She was assigned to ..."
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 13, 2015 0:36:44 GMT -5
From those right wing TEA Partiers over at Mediaite...
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Post by Opti on Jan 13, 2015 7:17:25 GMT -5
Interesting Comedy Central clip, I might try to view the show. Given how the clip went I think he was primarily dissing the fact Eric Holder did not attend given his presence in Paris at the time. But IDK. He dissed France a lot, played a few clips of journalists saying Obama was not there followed by dissing some countries( who had sent leaders) not known for their freedom.
Meh.
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Post by 973beachbum on Jan 13, 2015 8:40:09 GMT -5
I think the appropriate person to attend would have been the highest ranking official at the U.S. Embassy. Or diplomat to France It should have been Sec Kerry. I think he would have even preferred for it to be him. by all accounts he is a true lover of France and the French people. But it wasn't like he was vacationing in India he was there for a summit of some kind. I would have been pissed if the Pres or VP went. That would have just been hundreds of thousands of dollars, and a shit load of annoyances to everyone that got inconvienced by the secret service precautions they would have had, to make a show, and that isn't okay with me.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 13, 2015 8:59:15 GMT -5
Come on guys and girls, give Obama a break here.
After all he is just winding down from his Hawaiian vacation,
Do you really think he was ready to get back to work.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 13, 2015 9:02:50 GMT -5
I will also point out that Obama did not visit the VA hospital when he was in Phoenix last week.
What a jerk.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 13, 2015 9:14:12 GMT -5
No, she was assigned towards the back of the proverbial bus of the group of international leaders. Check out where they had her in the crowd. Of course someone had to be in the back of the group......but I have to wonder if she was not given that location on purpose.
Like I stated earlier, Biden or Kerry should have been there, imo
Shouldn't that say "Yes [she was there]. She was assigned to ..." No, I will stick with my original statement. Biden or Kerry. Hell, Kerry was already there. Why oh why, he was not there....Kerry was always thought of as being tone deaf to certain situations, but how the President missed it, is strange. If Clinton had been in Paris, as Secretary of State, she would have recognized someone should show up.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 13, 2015 9:20:34 GMT -5
Shouldn't that say "Yes [she was there]. She was assigned to ..." No, I will stick with my original statement. Biden or Kerry. Hell, Kerry was already there. Why oh why, he was not there....Kerry was always thought of as being tone deaf to certain situations, but how the President missed it, is strange. If Clinton had been in Paris, as Secretary of State, she would have recognized someone should show up.
Kerry was in India at the time of the demonstration. As to my comments above, you agreed with me the ambassador was there and not in the front line yet you started your remark with a negative as if she was not there but she was in the back somewhere. What was your need to say "No"?.
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Post by 973beachbum on Jan 13, 2015 9:22:48 GMT -5
Shouldn't that say "Yes [she was there]. She was assigned to ..." No, I will stick with my original statement. Biden or Kerry. Hell, Kerry was already there. Why oh why, he was not there....Kerry was always thought of as being tone deaf to certain situations, but how the President missed it, is strange. If Clinton had been in Paris, as Secretary of State, she would have recognized someone should show up.
Like i already said Sec Kerry wasn't in Paris he was in India.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 13, 2015 10:01:02 GMT -5
Tenn, why was Kerry on NBC with a backdrop showing the Eiffel Tower on Sunday? If I was wrong, which I was, I stand corrected and apologize. Now where the heck was Biden? Back at his home, resting. Heck the President could have asked Hillary to stand in for the President. Incidently, the Secret Service was asked if they were asked about security for someone at the Paris demonstration, and they said they were never asked to put a plan together. And now that the WH Press Secretary has admitted the gaffe, we can put the issue to bed.
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