MTA To Launch Campaign Against Men

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

...Taking Up Too Much Space

In case you were wondering why feminism is increasingly irrelevant, I guess there's a thing called "manspreading".  Seriously.
newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/01/05/mta-to-launch-campaign-aimed-at-curbing-manspreading-on-public-transit/

MTA To Launch Campaign Aimed At Curbing ‘Manspreading’ On Public Transit


NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — If you take the subway, bus or train, you’ve probably seen men who take up more than just their seat.
As CBS2’s Vladimir Duthiers reported, the issues is now the focus of a new MTA campaign.

Sitting on a crowded subway can be a lesson in sharing. Each person is allotted 17.5 inches — the width of an average seat.
But for some, that’s simply not enough.

So what is “manspreading?”

“Manspreading is when men take up too much room on the subway by spreading their legs in a wide V. Like geese traveling,” explained actress Kelley Rae O’Donnell.

O’Donnell has become an anti-manspreading activist, making stopping the spread a personal mission.

“I guess you would call it subway shaming? It’s what my friends accuse me doing,” she said.

Three years ago O’Donnell started taking pictures of people — mostly men — spreading out, and posting them on Twitter.

“I spend a lot of time commuting back and forth into Manhattan from Brooklyn,” she said. “And there was so much of it on these crowded trains that I just starting taking pictures. Mostly because they wouldn’t move for people or allow other people to sit down.”

O’Donnell said manspreading comes in many different forms, from the “hard day at workmanspread” to the “multi-manspreaders,” and even the “I’m giving my reindeer a rest manspread.”

Entire blogs are dedicated to pointing out egregious seating, including one where cats are superimposed between men’s wide open stances.
So why do men spread?

[ArchietheDragon]

I went to a bar called Man Spreading once.  Not many feminists there. 

[TheHaitian]

Jan 7, 2015 8:13:59 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

I went to a bar called Man Spreading once.  Not many feminists there. 

Ready to come out of the closet Archie?

[Tennesseer]

Jan 7, 2015 8:11:01 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

...Taking Up Too Much Space

In case you were wondering why feminism is increasingly irrelevant, I guess there's a thing called "manspreading".  Seriously.

Quoted material removed as original quote has been removed. - mmhmm, Administrator

I have looked for the quoted material above in the linked article and I just don't find it there. Did the thread author maybe mislink the article? Did the quoted material above come from an conspiracy theorist Alex Jones article?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

[swamp]

Have you ever sat next to some douche on the subway who is taking up way to much space by leaning back, spreading his legs, and draping his arms over the neighboring seat?

Or are you the guy that does it?

[The Captain]

I'm not going to read the article and haven't really heard the phrase "manspreading" until this thread.  But as someone who takes two forms of public transportation every workday I can tell you it exists.

Yes bus seats are narrow.  Yes it sucks to be crammed in like sardines.  No, you sprawling your legs wider than the seats is not going to keep me from plumping my ass down next to you.

Get over it.

[The Captain]

Jan 7, 2015 9:48:34 GMT -5 swamp said:

Have you ever sat next to some douche on the subway who is taking up way to much space by leaning back, spreading his legs, and draping his arms over the neighboring seat?

Or are you the guy that does it?

I'm the one who smiles sweetly and says excuse me before giving them just enough time to get their body parts out of my way.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 7, 2015 9:48:34 GMT -5 swamp said:

Have you ever sat next to some douche on the subway who is taking up way to much space by leaning back, spreading his legs, and draping his arms over the neighboring seat?

Or are you the guy that does it?

No, but I've seen people-- women, even-- forced to stand (I generally choose to stand) because some other passenger- usually a woman- has bags on seats on either side of them.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 7, 2015 9:47:20 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

So fix your link.

[swamp]

Jan 7, 2015 9:54:39 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jan 7, 2015 9:48:34 GMT -5 swamp said:

Have you ever sat next to some douche on the subway who is taking up way to much space by leaning back, spreading his legs, and draping his arms over the neighboring seat?

Or are you the guy that does it?

No, but I've seen people-- women, even-- forced to stand (I generally choose to stand) because some other passenger- usually a woman- has bags on seats on either side of them.

I just move the bags.

[Deleted]

Why is it every time men are asked to be thoughtful of others that they share the world with it is called an attack on men?

[swamp]

Jan 7, 2015 9:56:30 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Why is it every time men are asked to be thoughtful of others that they share the world with it is called an attack on men?

because it's not nice to challenge their perceived authority?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I'm also 6'3"-- the laws of physics and physiology pretty much give me three options while sitting: knees on my chest- the airline position; legs out in front of me- not gonna happen on a subway; or the 'manspreading' V. It seems to me that anyone not interested in "unwanted contact" shouldn't ride the NYC trains? Lord knows that's why I don't even live there.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 7, 2015 9:56:08 GMT -5 swamp said:

Jan 7, 2015 9:54:39 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

No, but I've seen people-- women, even-- forced to stand (I generally choose to stand) because some other passenger- usually a woman- has bags on seats on either side of them.

I just move the bags.

Yep.  But most people aren't like you, or I.  They see shit, they're annoyed by it, but they don't say or do anything about it.

[Deleted]

Jan 7, 2015 9:58:02 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I'm also 6'3"-- the laws of physics and physiology pretty much give me three options while sitting: knees on my chest- the airline position; legs out in front of me- not gonna happen on a subway; or the 'manspreading' V. It seems to me that anyone not interested in "unwanted contact" shouldn't ride the NYC trains? Lord knows that's why I don't even live there.

Or if you don't want to assume the airline position you shouldn't ride the NYC trains.

[Deleted]

Jan 7, 2015 9:59:39 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jan 7, 2015 9:56:08 GMT -5 swamp said:

I just move the bags.

Yep.  But most people aren't like you, or I.  They see shit, they're annoyed by it, but they don't say or do anything about it.

I live in the land of the polite and the offender gets told to move the bags.

[mmhmm]

Jan 7, 2015 8:11:01 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

...Taking Up Too Much Space

In case you were wondering why feminism is increasingly irrelevant, I guess there's a thing called "manspreading".  Seriously.

Article removed as link provided was fraudulent. - mmhmm, Administrator

Fix the link, paul. You do not place a link after a copy/paste that does not link to what you've copy/pasted. It's dishonest and you know it. Either fix the link or the post will be removed. I'll give you a few minutes to take care of this problem.

mmhmm, Administrator

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 7, 2015 10:03:10 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Jan 7, 2015 8:11:01 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

...Taking Up Too Much Space

In case you were wondering why feminism is increasingly irrelevant, I guess there's a thing called "manspreading".  Seriously.

Fix the link, paul. You do not place a link after a copy/paste that does not link to what you've copy/pasted. It's dishonest and you know it. Either fix the link or the post will be removed. I'll give you a few minutes to take care of this problem.

mmhmm, Administrator

The link came from the cut and paste.  Honestly- I cut it, I pasted it- and that's it.  I see now that it posted something different than the site I was on, I'll dig it up.

[ArchietheDragon]

You were rick rolling and you know it!

[mmhmm]

Jan 7, 2015 10:36:26 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jan 7, 2015 10:03:10 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Fix the link, paul. You do not place a link after a copy/paste that does not link to what you've copy/pasted. It's dishonest and you know it. Either fix the link or the post will be removed. I'll give you a few minutes to take care of this problem.

mmhmm, Administrator

The link came from the cut and paste.  Honestly- I cut it, I pasted it- and that's it.  I see now that it posted something different than the site I was on, I'll dig it up.

Your Reply #4 would indicate differently, paul, and I was able to find the original article you quoted. The link you used was not included in that article and would not have copy/pasted accidently. However, that's a moot point. The copy/pasted material with the fraudulent link has been removed.

mmhmm, Administrator

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 7, 2015 9:56:30 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Why is it every time men are asked to be thoughtful of others that they share the world with it is called an attack on men?

Can you imagine an instance where you couldn't simply say, "Excuse me, I'd like to sit down" and that would take care of it?  For the MTA to get complaints- primarily from women according to the article- asking them to "crack down" about what is in essence a sexist perception, because they "noticed" something, but didn't try to resolve the perceived issue on their own first is a sick and twisted form of gender discrimination.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 7, 2015 10:03:10 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Jan 7, 2015 8:11:01 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

...Taking Up Too Much Space

In case you were wondering why feminism is increasingly irrelevant, I guess there's a thing called "manspreading".  Seriously.

Fix the link, paul. You do not place a link after a copy/paste that does not link to what you've copy/pasted. It's dishonest and you know it. Either fix the link or the post will be removed. I'll give you a few minutes to take care of this problem.

mmhmm, Administrator

Look, stop making accusations with only " " in support of them.  I cut the verbiage from a site and pasted it- if, as is often the case these days, a link appears at the bottom of the text, I will sometimes let that suffice as supplying the correct link.  I apologize that in this instance that does not appear to have been the case.  I posted the See BS article-- as written on See BS-- with the link from the browser window.  The issue is now resolved.

[billisonboard]

Jan 7, 2015 9:56:30 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Why is it every time men are asked to be thoughtful of others that they share the world with it is called an attack on men?

It has been noted that members of both genders take up more than one seat yet it identified by a single gender term. A lot of work has been done to change vocabulary to gender neutral terms such as chairperson. Perhaps a gender neutral term for this non-gender specific behavior would make men feel not attacked.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Jan 7, 2015 13:05:04 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jan 7, 2015 9:56:30 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Why is it every time men are asked to be thoughtful of others that they share the world with it is called an attack on men?

Can you imagine an instance where you couldn't simply say, "Excuse me, I'd like to sit down" and that would take care of it?  For the MTA to get complaints- primarily from women according to the article- asking them to "crack down" about what is in essence a sexist perception, because they "noticed" something, but didn't try to resolve the perceived issue on their own first is a sick and twisted form of gender discrimination.

I can surely imagine such an instance.  I can also imagine an instance where people considerately sat down in their space without spreading their stupid ass all over the place.  In a perfect world, there would be no need to say, "Excuse me.  I'd like to sit down." because the other people present would have enough sense to use their own space and not somebody else's.

Unfortunately....

[Deleted]

Jan 7, 2015 13:25:39 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jan 7, 2015 9:56:30 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Why is it every time men are asked to be thoughtful of others that they share the world with it is called an attack on men?

It has been noted that members of both genders take up more than one seat yet it identified by a single gender term. A lot of work has been done to change vocabulary to gender neutral terms such as chairperson. Perhaps a gender neutral term for this non-gender specific behavior would make men feel not attacked.

I don't think so. If that is all it would take they would say "We hate that too but let's call it this". And Paul is defending the sprawling, not even a bit of apology.

[Virgil Showlion]

Virgil's Friend: What are you reading?

Virgil: An argument about an article about an activist in New York crusading against men who take up too much space on the subway.

Virgil's Friend: Like... fat men?

Virgil: No. Just... "manspreading". It... Men who 'spread out'.

Virgil's Friend: (laughing) What site are you reading? Who cares about that?

Virgil: It's a politics forum. The crusader is a feminist. They're arguing over... I... They're trying to determine...

Virgil's Friend: ...

Virgil: It may be part of a greater campaign. It's more a discussion of... it's a p- ... OK. Yeah. You're right. I'm reading through the most pointless discussion in the history of the Internet.

Virgil's Friend: Oh, you noticed?

[ArchietheDragon]

Jan 7, 2015 14:24:18 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Virgil's Friend: What are you reading?

Virgil: An argument about an article about an activist in New York crusading against men who take up too much space on the subway.

Virgil's Friend: Like... fat men?

Virgil: No. Just... "manspreading". It... Men who 'spread out'.

Virgil's Friend: (laughing) What site are you reading? Who cares about that?

Virgil: It's a politics forum. The crusader is a feminist. They're arguing over... I... They're trying to determine...

Virgil's Friend: ...

Virgil: It may be part of a greater campaign. It's more a discussion of... it's a p- ... OK. Yeah. You're right. I'm reading through the most pointless discussion in the history of the Internet.

Virgil's Friend: Oh, you noticed?

Are you a man who spreads out?    If so only with women or with men too?

[Green Eyed Lady]

I hear my grandmother.  "Ladies do not spread...else they are not ladies!"

[mroped]

Virgil, that's mean! Did you ever consider that you might hurth Paul's feelings?