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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2014 15:26:06 GMT -5
I actually used to muse about how much better off this country would have been if Hinckley could shoot straight....
Yes, I'm a bad person. Realistic, but bad. Hinckley was actually an interesting case to study. he is a child of an extremely conservative, wealthy, and religious family. and, of course, quite mentally ill. we should have got mandatory background checks after that attempt, but of course, we are talking about the 80's, so instead, they drew down the insanity defense, making it easier to incarcerate the mentally ill. Hinckley is still alive and in prison.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2014 15:27:05 GMT -5
Let's not forget Beirut Grenada yeah, because, you know......a tiny rock in the middle of the Caribbean needs overwhelming force.......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 15:34:52 GMT -5
oh, i don't know if any of you noticed, but 2012 is over. here is something current for your consideration: s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1380855/mcclatchy-marist-poll-2016-december-2014.pdfto use b2r's language, here is Clinton beating Bush by a WHOPPING 13 point margin. actually, since 13 is way more than 9, perhaps i should have said "Clinton SLAUGHTERING Bush by a 13 point margin". edit: since you seem to like CNN, the latest poll on this matchup shows Bush getting PULVERIZED by a 20 point margin. edit2: if Clinton doesn't run, all bets are off. Biden is the #2 candidate for Democrats, and he is FAR weaker than Clinton. What about Bush/Christie? I think they better to beat Clinton. I don't think she will run and chooses retirement.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2014 15:35:52 GMT -5
oh, i don't know if any of you noticed, but 2012 is over. here is something current for your consideration: s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1380855/mcclatchy-marist-poll-2016-december-2014.pdfto use b2r's language, here is Clinton beating Bush by a WHOPPING 13 point margin. actually, since 13 is way more than 9, perhaps i should have said "Clinton SLAUGHTERING Bush by a 13 point margin". edit: since you seem to like CNN, the latest poll on this matchup shows Bush getting PULVERIZED by a 20 point margin. edit2: if Clinton doesn't run, all bets are off. Biden is the #2 candidate for Democrats, and he is FAR weaker than Clinton. What about Bush/Christie? I think they better to beat Clinton. I don't think she will run and chooses retirement. i thought that 3 years ago, but i am no longer convinced she will NOT run.
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Post by EVT1 on Dec 27, 2014 15:53:16 GMT -5
www.cbsnews.com/news/jeb-bush-cuts-ties-with-company-that-benefitted-from-obamacare/
Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush is resigning from the board of Tenet Healthcare Corporation, a company that has significantly profited from the enactment of the Affordable Care Act and that has touted the economic benefits of the controversial health law.
Last month, Tenet reported that its third-quarter revenue was up $4.18 billion over the previous year, as the Washington Post notes -- and the company attributed 40 percent of those gains to Obamacare
Time to get on message I guess.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 27, 2014 16:09:00 GMT -5
Exactly right.
"Trickle-down" economics does not, has not, and will never work. When properly articulated, it is almost as good of a theory as communism. The problem for both, however, is that they are doomed to failure because they depend on people. Money trickles down at about the same rate boulders roll uphill.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 27, 2014 16:22:08 GMT -5
People, people, people, This thread is about the ass kicking the Dems are going to take from Jeb Bush in less than two years. Try to stay on topic. I do not want to be here in 35 years berating Barack Obama's policies. We can do that now!
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Post by dondub on Dec 27, 2014 16:55:40 GMT -5
HINCKLEY AND BUSH FAMILIES WERE CLOSE FRIENDS by Connie Cook Smith (printed with permission) www.conniescomments.blogspot.com Everyone knows who John Hinckley, Jr. is. This youngest Hinckley son is now being permitted unsupervised visits within the Washington, DC metropolitan area--away from his mental facility, after nearly killing President Reagan in 1981. But a much more interesting subject is, who is John Hinckley, Sr.? In 1980, Hinckley Sr. was a Texas oilman who, the records show, strove mightily to get fellow Texas oilman George H.W. Bush the Republican nomination for president. The Bushes and the Hinckleys were frequent dinner companions. But far beyond their social connection, neither Bush nor Hinckley wanted Ronald Reagan to become president, because Reagan was opposed to tax breaks for the oil industry to which Bush, Hinckley and other Texans were highly dependent. The effort to make Bush Sr. president in 1980 failed; but he and his friend and backer Hinckley Sr. got the next best thing – the "heartbeat away from the presidency" office of Vice-President of the United States. A couple months later, Hinckley Jr. shot Reagan, and Bush Sr. very nearly did become president at that time, after all. Curiously, only one time was it announced on the news about the connections between the Bush and Hinckley families: An almost bewildered John Chancellor on NBC Nightly News reported "the bizarre coincidence" that Vice President Bush's son, Neil, and Scott Hinckley had dinner plans for March 31, 1981 -- now cancelled, of course. [But even Chancellor failed to mention the close friendship between the the assassin's father and Vice President Bush--let alone the rest of the corporate media.] Reports indicate that the Bush family strove mightily to keep this information from the American people. And some reports list this incredible "coincidence" -- directly linked to the assassination attempt of President Reagan -- as one of the most spiked stories of the last century. In other words, the brother of the shooter and the son of the vice-president (and their wives) had a dinner date for the day after the shooting. But it really wasn’t such "a bizarre coincidence." Those two families were very close; but the press never focused on that critical fact as it should have. If Reagan had died, the oilmen’s interests would have been served. Some people think that Hinckley Jr. was mind-controlled, CIA-style, to shoot Reagan. George Bush Sr. was head of the CIA a few years before. Others think that young Hinckley wanted to please his dad and get Bush, his dad’s candidate and close friend, into the presidency for him after all. Interestingly, legal experts note that the crime occurred in Washington, D.C., the only venue in the United States at that time which recognized an insanity defense. If the kid committed the crime in D.C., he would never serve hard time? Well, coincidentally, that's where he committed it. A very good read on the Hinckley-Bush connections is a book that came out about 20 years ago, entitled, "The Afternoon of March 30." It was published as a novel in order to protect the author. This book is now more relevant than ever, and it can be obtained at: www.nathanielblumberg.com/bush.htm.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2014 17:03:07 GMT -5
HINCKLEY AND BUSH FAMILIES WERE CLOSE FRIENDS by Connie Cook Smith (printed with permission) www.conniescomments.blogspot.com Everyone knows who John Hinckley, Jr. is. This youngest Hinckley son is now being permitted unsupervised visits within the Washington, DC metropolitan area--away from his mental facility, after nearly killing President Reagan in 1981. But a much more interesting subject is, who is John Hinckley, Sr.? In 1980, Hinckley Sr. was a Texas oilman who, the records show, strove mightily to get fellow Texas oilman George H.W. Bush the Republican nomination for president. The Bushes and the Hinckleys were frequent dinner companions. But far beyond their social connection, neither Bush nor Hinckley wanted Ronald Reagan to become president, because Reagan was opposed to tax breaks for the oil industry to which Bush, Hinckley and other Texans were highly dependent. The effort to make Bush Sr. president in 1980 failed; but he and his friend and backer Hinckley Sr. got the next best thing – the "heartbeat away from the presidency" office of Vice-President of the United States. A couple months later, Hinckley Jr. shot Reagan, and Bush Sr. very nearly did become president at that time, after all. Curiously, only one time was it announced on the news about the connections between the Bush and Hinckley families: An almost bewildered John Chancellor on NBC Nightly News reported "the bizarre coincidence" that Vice President Bush's son, Neil, and Scott Hinckley had dinner plans for March 31, 1981 -- now cancelled, of course. [But even Chancellor failed to mention the close friendship between the the assassin's father and Vice President Bush--let alone the rest of the corporate media.] Reports indicate that the Bush family strove mightily to keep this information from the American people. And some reports list this incredible "coincidence" -- directly linked to the assassination attempt of President Reagan -- as one of the most spiked stories of the last century. In other words, the brother of the shooter and the son of the vice-president (and their wives) had a dinner date for the day after the shooting. But it really wasn’t such "a bizarre coincidence." Those two families were very close; but the press never focused on that critical fact as it should have. If Reagan had died, the oilmen’s interests would have been served. Some people think that Hinckley Jr. was mind-controlled, CIA-style, to shoot Reagan. George Bush Sr. was head of the CIA a few years before. Others think that young Hinckley wanted to please his dad and get Bush, his dad’s candidate and close friend, into the presidency for him after all. Interestingly, legal experts note that the crime occurred in Washington, D.C., the only venue in the United States at that time which recognized an insanity defense. If the kid committed the crime in D.C., he would never serve hard time? Well, coincidentally, that's where he committed it. A very good read on the Hinckley-Bush connections is a book that came out about 20 years ago, entitled, "The Afternoon of March 30." It was published as a novel in order to protect the author. This book is now more relevant than ever, and it can be obtained at: www.nathanielblumberg.com/bush.htm. the story is weirder than that, too. Hinkley and his son were also involved in an international charity with ties to the CIA. it is all REALLY REALLY WEIRD. it is the kind of stuff that any media that was not so completely busy sucking up to power and authority would have been all over. but, unfortunately, that sort of media died a quiet death sometime in the 70's.
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Post by dondub on Dec 27, 2014 17:14:18 GMT -5
[ Sidebar: Many other significant facts concerning the Bush and Hinckley families have remained unexplored and unexplained, in addition to other matters related to the assassination attempt detailed in Blumberg's book which is found at: www.nathanielblumberg.com/bush.htm : 1. Neil Bush, a landman for Amoco Oil, told Denver reporters he had met Scott Hinckley at a surprise party at the Bush home January 23, 1981 [Nine weeks before Hinckley's brother John Jr. attempted to assassinate President Reagan--which would have elevated Bush Sr. to the presidency], and approximately three weeks after the U.S. Department of Energy had begun what was termed a "routine audit" of the books of the Vanderbilt Energy Corporation, the Hinckley oil company. In an incredible coincidence, on the morning of March 30 [the day of the Reagan assassination attempt by John Hinckley, Jr.], three representatives of the U.S. Department of Energy told Scott Hinckley, John Hinckley Jr.'s older brother and Vanderbilt's vice president of operations, that auditors had uncovered evidence of pricing violations on crude oil sold by the company from 1977 through 1980. The auditors announced that the federal government was considering a penalty of two million dollars. [This, on the same day that his brother John--the youngest son of Vice President Bush's close friend--attempted the assassination!] Scott Hinckley reportedly requested "several hours to come up with an explanation" of the serious overcharges. The meeting ended a little more than an hour before John Hinckly Jr. shot President Reagan. 2. Excerpts from an interview by Theresa Walla, United Press International, March 9, 1985: Journalism professor Nathaniel Blumberg was so disturbed about the investigation into the attempted assassination of President Reagan that he turned his suspicions into a 377-page novel. In The Afternoon of March 30 , Blumberg blends fact and fiction in looking at the unreported "connections" between Hinckley's family and that of Vice President George Bush, the man who came within a heartbeat of the presidency of the United States. "What I'm really after is the case to be officially reopened," said the Rhodes scholar and former dean of the University of Montana journalism school. "If they can answer all the questions satisfactorily, I'll be delighted," he said in an interview. "In truth, I don't think all the questions can be answered without opening up a whole new can of worms." Blumberg's unease is now focused on the indifference shown to what he calls "the story behind the story." Bush, he said, has questions to answer in connection with the attempt. So do the FBI and the judge who presided over Hinckley's trial, according to Blumberg. "I'm not saying there was a conspiracy to assassinate Reagan," Blumberg emphasized. "I'm saying there was a conspiracy to keep significant information from the public that it has a right to know." Blumberg asks his readers to consider his contentions that journalists were fed a barely believable story full of inconsistencies. A long-time media critic, he decided the example warranted more than a critique of press performance in a crisis. Such efforts, he said, usually "go out there and die." Instead, he chose to weave his questions into a novel so it would reach a broader audience and allow him to probe problems in society and corruption in government, as well as maladies of the U.S. press. His book chronicles the adventures of a fictitious Montana newsman who follows the information trail deserted by the national media. His documentation is put in the form of an article the fictitious hero is writing. Blumberg published the book on his own Wood FIRE Ashes Press to retain total control over the quality. "Have you ever heard an author say what a great job his publisher did with a book?" he asks. But, without a commercial advertising campaign, he's had to market the book in an "organic, straightforward fashion." Blumberg says he mails out several copies of the novel each week and expects it to "stay alive as long as people continue to care about justice." ] www.conniescomments.blogspot.com (submitted/posted by Connie Cook Smith)
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Post by tallguy on Dec 27, 2014 17:14:37 GMT -5
Sounds like something Jack Anderson should have been all over....
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Post by dondub on Dec 27, 2014 17:16:26 GMT -5
Once he got over the LSD that was smeared on his steering wheel!
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Post by EVT1 on Dec 27, 2014 17:22:05 GMT -5
Wow- never heard the first thing about it- I was a kid at the time and all I remember was the Jodie Foster angle- and the only reason I heard about that back then was because of JFA. Very interesting and very strange indeed.
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Support for Common Core could cost Jeb Bush in primaryTALLAHASSEE - Jeb Bush never wavered in his support for the Common Core state standards - not even after the education benchmarks became a target for Tea Party groups decrying federal overreach in education. That may hurt the former Florida governor, who has said he is considering a run for the White House. Bush would find himself in a crowded field of Republican candidates, some of whom - along with ardent conservatives nationwide - have stepped up their attacks on the Common Core. Speaking this week on Fox News Sunday, conservative syndicated columnist George Will said Bush has "four strikes against him - Common Core, immigration, his name and the big sign on his back that says establishment choice." Bush, who has played a key role in setting the national education agenda since leaving the governor's mansion in 2007, was among the earliest supporters of the Common Core standards. Rest of article below. Support for Common Core could cost Jeb Bush in primary
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2014 17:53:54 GMT -5
Support for Common Core could cost Jeb Bush in primaryTALLAHASSEE - Jeb Bush never wavered in his support for the Common Core state standards - not even after the education benchmarks became a target for Tea Party groups decrying federal overreach in education. That may hurt the former Florida governor, who has said he is considering a run for the White House. Bush would find himself in a crowded field of Republican candidates, some of whom - along with ardent conservatives nationwide - have stepped up their attacks on the Common Core. Speaking this week on Fox News Sunday, conservative syndicated columnist George Will said Bush has "four strikes against him - Common Core, immigration, his name and the big sign on his back that says establishment choice." Bush, who has played a key role in setting the national education agenda since leaving the governor's mansion in 2007, was among the earliest supporters of the Common Core standards. Rest of article below. Support for Common Core could cost Jeb Bush in primary i think his position on immigration will cost him the primary. the GOP is just not being realistic about this guy. i think he is a viable candidate, except for people like me, who will probably never give him a fair shake due to brand.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 6, 2015 20:12:43 GMT -5
Jeb should have some problems in Iowa, but after that, smooth sailing
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 6, 2015 20:25:01 GMT -5
Jeb should have some problems in Iowa, but after that, smooth sailing ...............until the general election. he is going to have a LOT of trouble in the GE, in my opinion. edit: i should also add that i am not convinced he will survive a primary. but as of right now, only Ryan stands a chance of toppling him.
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Post by EVT1 on Jan 6, 2015 21:42:26 GMT -5
Maybe Ryan's hip new beard will work out better than the glasses did for Governor Ooops.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 6, 2015 22:23:25 GMT -5
Maybe Ryan's hip new beard will work out better than the glasses did for Governor Ooops. more than anyone else who might potentially run, i hope Perry runs and gets utterly crushed.
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Post by EVT1 on Jan 6, 2015 22:59:17 GMT -5
You are nicer than me- I want to see him in court being sentenced. No jail- just a good scolding and a record.
I don't think he is going to bother- surely someone has explained things to him.
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Post by dondub on Jan 6, 2015 23:42:44 GMT -5
He didn't seem to be the smartest fry in the Happy Meal so who knows what he might do. That hair is worth a ton of votes in the red states.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 20, 2015 10:27:42 GMT -5
Well, list the states where the Republicans are going down in 2016 Senate races, and we can discuss. i will be starting a thread on this in January. not a joke. but here is a preview for your consideration: think about 2010. that is what you need to do. just think about it. that is all you are getting for now. Okay, dj, it's mid January. I have been thinking about 2010 and the follow up of what happened in 2014, since you are talking non Presidential election cycles, but for now let's stick to 2010 Are we ready to start a thread on your thesis?
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 20, 2015 10:40:09 GMT -5
i will be starting a thread on this in January. not a joke. but here is a preview for your consideration: think about 2010. that is what you need to do. just think about it. that is all you are getting for now. Okay, dj, it's mid January. I have been thinking about 2010 and the follow up of what happened in 2014, since you are talking non Presidential election cycles, but for now let's stick to 2010 Are we ready to start a thread on your thesis?
Those elected/reelected to the US Senate in 2010 are the group who are up for reelection in 2016 (or the seat will be open if the person currently holding it does not run again). Thus the significance of the 2010 election. I will wait to have dj enlighten me as to how but that is the why.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 20, 2015 10:47:03 GMT -5
Okay, dj, it's mid January. I have been thinking about 2010 and the follow up of what happened in 2014, since you are talking non Presidential election cycles, but for now let's stick to 2010 Are we ready to start a thread on your thesis?
Those elected/reelected to the US Senate in 2010 are the group who are up for reelection in 2016 (or the seat will be open if the person currently holding it does not run again). Thus the significance of the 2010 election. I will wait to have dj enlighten me as to how but that is the why. I agree, but we still have not taken into account the fallout for Dems from the 2014 election. Of course he expects the Republicans to drift backward in 2016, but that is not necessarily the reality. We need him to start the thread, and explain his thesis.
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Those elected/reelected to the US Senate in 2010 are the group who are up for reelection in 2016 (or the seat will be open if the person currently holding it does not run again). Thus the significance of the 2010 election. I will wait to have dj enlighten me as to how but that is the why. I agree, but we still have not taken into account the fallout for Dems from the 2014 election. Of course he expects the Republicans to drift backward in 2016, but that is not necessarily the reality. We need him to start the thread, and explain his thesis.
I always take into account there are no national elections. So in the 33 (or is it 34 in 2016?) states with 2016 Senate races, was there Democratic fallout? I don't care enough to do the research, but I do know that is what matters.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 20, 2015 11:19:08 GMT -5
i will be starting a thread on this in January. not a joke. but here is a preview for your consideration: think about 2010. that is what you need to do. just think about it. that is all you are getting for now. Okay, dj, it's mid January. I have been thinking about 2010 and the follow up of what happened in 2014, since you are talking non Presidential election cycles, but for now let's stick to 2010 Are we ready to start a thread on your thesis?
it has nothing to do with 2014. 2010 is the relevant cycle. what did you conclude by thinking about it?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 20, 2015 11:20:51 GMT -5
Okay, dj, it's mid January. I have been thinking about 2010 and the follow up of what happened in 2014, since you are talking non Presidential election cycles, but for now let's stick to 2010 Are we ready to start a thread on your thesis?
Those elected/reelected to the US Senate in 2010 are the group who are up for reelection in 2016 (or the seat will be open if the person currently holding it does not run again). Thus the significance of the 2010 election. I will wait to have dj enlighten me as to how but that is the why. that is precisely it. the reason that Democrats got "hammered" in 2014 is that they did spectacularly well in 2008. what you will see in 2016 is a regression to the mean. i would rate the chances of the GOP retaining the Senate at 5%. i am not alone in that respect. Nate Silver thinks the same thing.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 20, 2015 11:21:33 GMT -5
Those elected/reelected to the US Senate in 2010 are the group who are up for reelection in 2016 (or the seat will be open if the person currently holding it does not run again). Thus the significance of the 2010 election. I will wait to have dj enlighten me as to how but that is the why. I agree, but we still have not taken into account the fallout for Dems from the 2014 election. Of course he expects the Republicans to drift backward in 2016, but that is not necessarily the reality. We need him to start the thread, and explain his thesis.
you really think that people (in the general sense, not specific) vote positions rather than party and candidates? how precious.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 21, 2015 3:47:51 GMT -5
If he, Jed, came out with something along the lines of " I love my brother dearly and over all like what he did as POTUS, policies and all but I disagree with his handling of the Iraq war, his reasoning for ...that whole misguided event..sorry big brother but there you went bad.. lost it..... also not finishing up the one in Afganistan, leaving it for the next one in charge , thus spending more lives, expenses , keeping us there longer then we should have.." I wouldn't expect that but if he did , it , his candency , it would put a whole different lite on the whole thing..IMHO..
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