Like to text and drive moron?

[kent]

I love it...

www.msn.com/en-us/money/autoinsurance/6-ways-the-cops-know-youre-texting/ss-BBd0BeO

[kent]

Hmmmm - by now (three hours later) I would have thought I'd have a few "amen" responses. I must have hit a nerve with quite a few text and drive people.

[Deleted]

Purple that do it are same like people that drunk drive

[tractor]

I don't text and drive, it's usually Facebook or proboards but never texting (sent from a highway in mid-America).

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Didn't you have to key in that post?

[Malarky]

When you see me holding my phone against the steering wheel as I fly down the highway, I'm not texting...I'm looking at my phone's GPS.    

[midjd]

Voice to text is a wonderful thing. You can even do emoticons.

[Jaguar]

Dec 13, 2014 18:10:57 GMT -5 midjd said:

Voice to text is a wonderful thing. You can even do emoticons.

I call my niece and she can talk to me without taking her eyes off the road. Her techy husband set it up.

[Deleted]

Still it is not safe because your distracted.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Talking on a hands-free phone is not distracted driving. It's no different than talking to a passenger sitting next to you, or singing along to the radio while driving.

[b2r]

Got me wondering which states it was still legal in.

Arizona
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Oklahoma
Texas


www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/cellphone_laws.html

[Deleted]

Dec 13, 2014 18:32:34 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

Talking on a hands-free phone is not distracted driving. It's no different than talking to a passenger sitting next to you, or singing along to the radio while driving.

Hands-Free Texting Is No Safer to Use While Driving

The most interesting developments in technology are never the gadgets themselves. It's how they impact society.

Even decades into the cell-phone revolution, for example, we're still trying to figure out how to fit them into our lives. What are the rules for making phone calls in public places? For e-mail during meals? And above all, for using them in cars?

Recently I wrote about Motorola's new Moto-X cell phone. Like most smartphones today, you can control it by voice: have it read new text messages aloud (and dictate replies), check your e-mail, dial a number for you. But this phone goes a step further: to indicate that you're about to issue a spoken command, you don't even have to press a button. You just say, “Okay, Google Now.” The phone is always listening. You never have to touch it or even look at it.

Clearly, that's a step toward greater safety, I concluded. You can leave the phone in your car's cup holder—never take your hands off the wheel, never take your eyes off the road.

Many readers, however, were aghast. “You're promoting the fallacy that when driving, speaking to a cell phone is safer than having to use a hand to manipulate it,” wrote a typical one. “Studies tell us that hands or no hands, eyes on the screen or on the road, using a cell phone while driving causes more accidents than does the abuse of alcohol or drugs. What were you thinking?!”

I was thinking that it must be safer to send texts hands-free. After all, you have to look at the screen to type. If you're looking down at your phone, you're driving a two-ton projectile, blind, at 65 miles an hour.

The Texas A&M Transportation Institute studied people driving a closed course under three conditions: while texting by hand, while texting by voice (using Siri for iPhone and Vlingo for Android), and without texting at all.

The results surprised me—and troubled me. Turns out it makes absolutely no difference whether you text hands-free or by voice. “Response times were significantly delayed no matter which texting method was used,” the study says. In each case, drivers who were texting took about twice as long to react as they did otherwise. Incredibly, they also spent less time watching the road, even when they were texting by voice.

SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN

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Hands-Free Talking, Texting are Unsafe

Utah media: To shoot video or photos of the University of Utah’s driving simulator in the Social and Behavioral Sciences Bldg. June 11-13, contact study coauthor James Coleman (below). Most national TV networks are expected to cover the story from Washington. Contact Lee Siegel or Nancy White for a copy of the study.

June 12, 2013 – Using hands-free devices to talk, text or send e-mail while driving is distracting and risky, contrary to what many people believe, says a new University of Utah study issued today by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety.

“Our research shows that hands-free is not risk-free,” says University of Utah psychology Professor David Strayer, lead author of the study, which he conducted for the foundation arm of the nonprofit AAA, formerly known as the American Automobile Association.

“These new, speech-based technologies in the car can overload the driver’s attention and impair their ability to drive safely,” says Strayer. “An unintended consequence of trying to make driving safer – by moving to speech-to-text, in-vehicle systems – may actually overload the driver and make them less safe.”

“Just because you can update Facebook while driving doesn’t mean that it is safe to do so,” he adds. “Don’t assume that if your eyes are on the road and your hands are on the wheel that you are unimpaired. If you don’t pay attention then you are a potential hazard on the roadway.”

NEWS CENTER UNIVERSITY OF UTAH

Even hands-free texting while driving is dangerous, study finds

WASHINGTON Using voice commands to send text messages and emails from behind the wheel, which is marketed as a safer alternative for drivers, actually is more distracting and dangerous than simply talking on a cellphone, a new AAA study found.

Automakers have been trying to excite new-car buyers, especially younger ones, with dashboard infotainment systems that let drivers use voice commands do things like turning on windshield wipers, posting Facebook messages or ordering pizza. The pitch has been that hands-free devices are safer because they enable drivers to keep their hands on the wheel and their eyes on the road.

But talking on a hands-free phone isn't significantly safer for drivers than talking on a hand-held phone, and using hands-free devices that translate speech into text is the most distracting of all, researchers found. Speech-to-text systems that enable drivers to send, scroll through, or delete email and text messages required greater concentration by drivers than other potentially distracting activities examined in the study like talking on the phone, talking to a passenger, listening to a book on tape or listening to the radio.

"It's a widely held misconception that people believe if their eyes are on the road and their hands are on the wheel that they're actually safer," said Yolanda Cade, spokeswoman for AAA, to CBS News.

CBSNEWS

'Hands-Free' Devices Unsafe While Driving: Report
They cause mental distraction that can lead to crashes, experts warn

WEDNESDAY, June 12 (HealthDay News) -- Drivers who think hands-free devices for talking or texting are safer than handheld cellphones are mistaken, a new report suggests.

Instead, devices such as speech-based technologies in cars can overload drivers, taking their attention from the road and making an accident more likely, experts say.

"Hands-free is not risk-free, even though three out of four motorists believe it is," said Peter Kissinger, president and CEO of the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. "We know now that devices like voice-detect or voice-to-email systems can create substantial mental distractions, which can lead to degradation of driving performance."

Each day in the United States, more than nine people are killed and more than 1,000 are injured in crashes that involve a distracted driver, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Brains aren't wired to multi-task, Kissinger said. "It's virtually impossible for the brain to do two complex things at the same time," he said.

WEBMD

[b2r]

  Driving with your knees while eating a whopper is probably unsafe as well. 

[Deleted]

Dec 13, 2014 18:53:54 GMT -5 b2r said:

  Driving with your knees while eating a whopper is probably unsafe as well. 

Yes. Unsafe thing does not excuse an other unsafe thing.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Hands-free is not risk-free, even though three out of four motorists believe it is," said Peter Kissinger, president and CEO of the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. "We know now that devices like voice-detect or voice-to-email systems can create substantial mental distractions, which can lead to degradation of driving performance."

Each day in the United States, more than nine people are killed and more than 1,000 are injured in crashes that involve a distracted driver, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Brains aren't wired to multi-task, Kissinger said. "It's virtually impossible for the brain to do two complex things at the same time," he said.

Nothing about driving is risk-free. It's a risk we take every day when we get behind the wheel. We don't know what's' going to happen on the road.

And since when has talking become a "complex task"? I guess they should make it a law not to speak to a passenger, or sing while driving, then - or drive while chewing gum.

And the link doesn't specify what the distracted drivers in the 9 killed or 1000 injured were doing while driving. It doesn't specify they were texting or talking on the phone.

They could have been checking out what the kids in the back seat were doing. Or picking up a dropped cigarette from the floor, or changing the station on the radio, or any number of other things.

[Deleted]

Dec 13, 2014 20:04:54 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

Hands-free is not risk-free, even though three out of four motorists believe it is," said Peter Kissinger, president and CEO of the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. "We know now that devices like voice-detect or voice-to-email systems can create substantial mental distractions, which can lead to degradation of driving performance."

Each day in the United States, more than nine people are killed and more than 1,000 are injured in crashes that involve a distracted driver, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Brains aren't wired to multi-task, Kissinger said. "It's virtually impossible for the brain to do two complex things at the same time," he said.

Nothing about driving is risk-free. It's a risk we take every day when we get behind the wheel. We don't know what's' going to happen on the road.

And since when has talking become a "complex task"? I guess they should make it a law not to speak to a passenger, or sing while driving, then - or drive while chewing gum.

And the link doesn't specify what the distracted drivers in the 9 killed or 1000 injured were doing while driving. It doesn't specify they were texting or talking on the phone.

They could have been checking out what the kids in the back seat were doing. Or picking up a dropped cigarette from the floor, or changing the station on the radio, or any number of other things.

If your gonna do it your gonna do it and you will excuse all the evidence. Sorry didi I do not approve it its not only you that maybe will die. Possible you will kill me also or else my family.

[Deleted]

Its possible I'm gonna post ten study s more or twenty but its not gonna change it because you LIKE to do it so your gonna excuse 10 or 20 or 30 more study's.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

And someone could skid on a patch of ice, or swerve to dodge a child or dog that ran into the street, and end up killing me too. I fail to see your logic.

There are numerous things that cause "distracted driving" or accidents. I don't see having your cell on hands-free-text mode or speaker phone for calling someone as two of them.

I change the radio station sometimes when I drive - especially if I'm in a different city (I want to find a good rock station). I also press a button to change the CD player - oh - and I sing along to the music - I guess I should have my license revoked.

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Dec 13, 2014 20:19:37 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

And someone could skid on a patch of ice, or swerve to dodge a child or dog that ran into the street, and end up killing me too. I fail to see your logic.

There are numerous things that cause "distracted driving" or accidents. I don't see having your cell on hands-free-text mode or speaker phone for calling someone as two of them.

I change the radio station sometimes when I drive - especially if I'm in a different city (I want to find a good rock station). I also press a button to change the CD player - oh - and I sing along to the music - I guess I should have my license revoked.

OK because there is risk its OK to do specially risky thing? Then also its OK to drunk drive because also you might slip on ice and kill some body??

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The Texas A&M Transportation Institute studied people driving a closed course under three conditions: while texting by hand, while texting by voice (using Siri for iPhone and Vlingo for Android), and without texting at all.

The results surprised me—and troubled me. Turns out it makes absolutely no difference whether you text hands-free or by voice. “Response times were significantly delayed no matter which texting method was used,” the study says. In each case, drivers who were texting took about twice as long to react as they did otherwise. Incredibly, they also spent less time watching the road, even when they were texting by voice.

[moon/Laura]

So, Tiki, can I assume then, that when you're driving you do absolutely NOTHING BUT DRIVE?

no talking to a passenger
no radio
no phone (obviously)
no humming or singing to yourself?

[Deleted]

Dec 13, 2014 20:28:16 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

So, Tiki, can I assume then, that when you're driving you do absolutely NOTHING BUT DRIVE?

no talking to a passenger
no radio
no phone (obviously)
no humming or singing to yourself?

You have link for study that shows they are same?

Also its OK to you people will drunk drive because also other things are risky? Why no body will answer it?

[moon/Laura]

because the OP has nothing to do with drunk driving. and, in fact, drunk driving isn't even in the same league as this stuff. i'll also point out that i made a recent post in the thanksgiving thread against it, as well.

the point is, all of what i posted would be considered "distracted driving" then, according to you. so if you want to complain about those things, you had better not be a hypocrite and do them yourself.

[Deleted]

Dec 13, 2014 20:36:41 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

because the OP has nothing to do with drunk driving. and, in fact, drunk driving isn't even in the same league as this stuff. i'll also point out that i made a recent post in the thanksgiving thread against it, as well.

the point is, all of what i posted would be considered "distracted driving" then, according to you. so if you want to complain about those things, you had better not be a hypocrite and do them yourself.

Cell Phone Use as Dangerous as Drunken Driving

Drivers who talk on either handheld or hands-free cellular phones are as impaired as drunken drivers, according to experimental research conducted by Drs. Frank Drews, David Strayer, and Dennis L. Crouch of the University of Utah.

The study reinforced earlier research showing that hands-free cell phones are just as distracting as handheld cell phones

“If legislators really want to address driver distraction, then they should consider outlawing cell phone use while driving.” says Dr. Drews.

Both handheld and hands-free cell phones impaired driving, with no significant difference in the degree of impairment. That “calls into question driving regulations that prohibited handheld cell phones and permit hands-free cell phones,” the researchers write.

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DRIVERS ON CELL PHONES ARE AS BAD AS DRUNKS

UTAH PSYCHOLOGISTS WARN AGAINST CELL PHONE USE WHILE DRIVING

June 29, 2006 -- Three years after the preliminary results first were presented at a scientific meeting and drew wide attention, University of Utah psychologists have published a study showing that motorists who talk on handheld or hands-free cellular phones are as impaired as drunken drivers.

"We found that people are as impaired when they drive and talk on a cell phone as they are when they drive intoxicated at the legal blood-alcohol limit” of 0.08 percent, which is the minimum level that defines illegal drunken driving in most U.S. states, says study co-author Frank Drews, an assistant professor of psychology. “If legislators really want to address driver distraction, then they should consider outlawing cell phone use while driving.”

Psychology Professor David Strayer, the study's lead author, adds: “Just like you put yourself and other people at risk when you drive drunk, you put yourself and others at risk when you use a cell phone and drive. The level of impairment is very similar.”

“Clearly the safest course of action is to not use a cell phone while driving,” concludes the study by Strayer, Drews and Dennis Crouch, a research associate professor of pharmacology and toxicology. The study was set for publication June 29 in the summer 2006 issue of Human Factors: The Journal of the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society.

The study reinforced earlier research by Strayer and Drews showing that hands-free cell phones are just as distracting as handheld cell phones because the conversation itself – not just manipulation of a handheld phone – distracts drivers from road conditions.

THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH

A Comparison of the Cell Phone Driver and the Drunk Driver

Objective: The objective of this research was to determine the relative impairment
associated with conversing on a cellular telephone while driving. Background:
Epidemiological evidence suggests that the relative risk of being in a traffic accident
while using a cell phone is similar to the hazard associated with driving with a blood
alcohol level at the legal limit. The purpose of this research was to provide a direct
comparison of the driving performance of a cell phone driver and a drunk driver in
a controlled laboratory setting. Method: We used a high-fidelity driving simulator
to compare the performance of cell phone drivers with drivers who were intoxicated
from ethanol (i.e., blood alcohol concentration at 0.08% weight/volume). Results:
When drivers were conversing on either a handheld or hands-free cell phone, their
braking reactions were delayed and they were involved in more traffic accidents than
when they were not conversing on a cell phone. By contrast, when drivers were intoxicated
from ethanol they exhibited a more aggressive driving style, following closer
to the vehicle immediately in front of them and applying more force while braking.
Conclusion: When driving conditions and time on task were controlled for, the impairments
associated with using a cell phone while driving can be as profound as
those associated with driving while drunk. Application: This research may help to
provide guidance for regulation addressing driver distraction caused by cell phone
conversations.

UNIVERSITY OF UTAH


Probably your same person that said OH I can drive BETTER after few drinks!

[Deleted]

Dec 13, 2014 20:36:41 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

because the OP has nothing to do with drunk driving. and, in fact, drunk driving isn't even in the same league as this stuff. i'll also point out that i made a recent post in the thanksgiving thread against it, as well.

the point is, all of what i posted would be considered "distracted driving" then, according to you. so if you want to complain about those things, you had better not be a hypocrite and do them yourself.

Still I am waiting for your link to study that will show all they are same thing.

Waiting...



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waiting....

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Dec 13, 2014 20:36:41 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

because the OP has nothing to do with drunk driving. and, in fact, drunk driving isn't even in the same league as this stuff. i'll also point out that i made a recent post in the thanksgiving thread against it, as well.

the point is, all of what i posted would be considered "distracted driving" then, according to you. so if you want to complain about those things, you had better not be a hypocrite and do them yourself.

Also OP did not discuss

no talking to a passenger
no radio
no phone (obviously)
no humming or singing to yourself?

But its OK you can talk of them? But I can not talk of drunk driving?

If its your business I'm gonna tell you I do not do them. I am deaf person it is not even possible for me any way.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Do you drive, tiki?

[Deleted]

Yes

[moon/Laura]

Tiki. you need to stop trolling because i'm not going to put up with it.

by your own statements and lengthy studies of all sorts of crap, ANYTHING that takes the driver's attention away from driving - which includes texting, as well as all the things i listed - should not be done. i'm not going to allow you to attack me for pointing out your failure to see the obvious. so you are deaf, no music etc for you. fine. what about signing to a passenger while you're driving? that would be distracted driving too.

and regardless of whether drunk driving is as bad (worse, in my opinion), it's still not the same as this. that is IMPAIRED driving. not just distracted. and this post is about distracted driving. quit trying to change the subject.