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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Dec 9, 2014 21:00:12 GMT -5
I don't know. We celebrate Halloween and don't worship Satan...or whatever that came from. LOL I'm in the camp of taking whatever holiday I can get.  My family is mostly Christian, my kids were baptized Catholic, and can decide on their own, but I don't see anything wrong with the message of Christmas to say "no, kids, we're sitting this one out". When I was in 6th grade, a boy in my class had to go to the Office ANYTIME there was a celebration--classmate birthday, Halloween party, Christmas party, etc. He kept to himself so we never really knew why. I always felt really sorry for him that he missed out on the fun stuff in school. I recall finding out he was a Jehovah's Witness but that was long before their faith was known among my peer group. I tell you this because about the ONLY people on the planet who don't celebrate a winter holiday of any sort are JWs. Oh, and dannylion, I do believe a velvety chocolate Yule log qualifies as cake.  |
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 9, 2014 21:01:49 GMT -5
By the way-the opening post is a wee bit judgmental. That was intentional, hence the 
Well it doesn't speak very well for you. |
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Post by Phoenix84 on Dec 9, 2014 21:05:21 GMT -5
That was intentional, hence the
Well it doesn't speak very well for you. LOL come on Tennesseer, lighten up. It's the holidays after all. Quit being such a scrooge. |
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Post by dannylion on Dec 9, 2014 21:16:00 GMT -5
I don't know. We celebrate Halloween and don't worship Satan...or whatever that came from. LOL I'm in the camp of taking whatever holiday I can get. My family is mostly Christian, my kids were baptized Catholic, and can decide on their own, but I don't see anything wrong with the message of Christmas to say "no, kids, we're sitting this one out". When I was in 6th grade, a boy in my class had to go to the Office ANYTIME there was a celebration--classmate birthday, Halloween party, Christmas party, etc. He kept to himself so we never really knew why. I always felt really sorry for him that he missed out on the fun stuff in school. I recall finding out he was a Jehovah's Witness but that was long before their faith was known among my peer group. I tell you this because about the ONLY people on the planet who don't celebrate a winter holiday of any sort are JWs. Oh, and dannylion, I do believe a velvety chocolate Yule log qualifies as cake. Absolutely! And a particularly elevated form of cake at that.
Now I want velvety chocolate Yule log. With chocolate mousse rolled up inside and marzipan mushrooms artfully arranged on the ganache bark.
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 9, 2014 21:51:47 GMT -5
The early Christian Puritans outlawed Christmas altogether. 
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Dec 9, 2014 22:00:49 GMT -5
Just like most Christians aren't hardcore evangelical Christians, most Atheists are not evangelical hardcore atheists.
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 9, 2014 22:17:11 GMT -5
That was pretty funny! And she talks about blurring fantasy with reality! Priceless.
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Post by The Captain on Dec 9, 2014 22:23:38 GMT -5
Great, now all I want is cake...
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 9, 2014 22:31:40 GMT -5
wow, talk about Democrats and progressives being a little judgemental and demanding in their desires to not celebrate a Christian holiday, but then go ahead and do it their way anyway...... ...... |
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Dec 9, 2014 22:34:02 GMT -5
Cake, a yule log, or some Chapman's Slice-Cream - (It's a Canadian thing).... 
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 22:36:16 GMT -5
Happy Holidays to you too  |
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Post by Formerly SK on Dec 9, 2014 22:56:09 GMT -5
Exactly. Honestly, IME it's the not very devout people who consider Christmas a Christian holiday. The more devout people are just like your link. |
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Post by Phoenix84 on Dec 9, 2014 23:01:24 GMT -5
Great, now all I want is cake... The cake is a lie. |
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Post by dannylion on Dec 9, 2014 23:06:20 GMT -5
Great, now all I want is cake... Come to the dark side.
We have velvety chocolate Yule log.
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Post by Jaguar on Dec 9, 2014 23:10:52 GMT -5
Great, now all I want is cake... Come to the dark side.
We have velvety chocolate Yule log.
We also have double chocolate chip cookies and bacon too. We have BACON ! We have Weed ! We have Candy ! |
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Post by Opti on Dec 9, 2014 23:11:37 GMT -5
Things have been a bit slow recently, so I figured I'd stir the pot a little.
I always thought it was a little strange to see many people who identify themselves as atheists or agnostic still celebrating Christmas, or at least do the things with the gift giving, Christmas trees, Christmas parties, stockings, ect. You would think if you were "truly" atheist or agnostic, you would not celebrate Christmas in any way, shape or form, even preferring to work that day.
Don't get me wrong though, it's a free country, people can do what they want. It just seems a bit disingenuous to me for an atheist or agnostic to celebrate Christmas. How do they reconcile their celebratory activities with their religious beliefs (or lack there of in this case)? Given all that has nothing really to do with celebrating the birth of Christ I would think its pretty easy.
Now if they were doing living manager scenes, singing religious Christmas hymns then I'd agree they are celebrating Christ's birth.
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Post by steff on Dec 9, 2014 23:18:21 GMT -5
I celebrate for the fudge & divinity (the candy, not the religion thingy), and the presents.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 23:20:27 GMT -5
Have you ever listened to David Sedaris' 6-8 Black Men...? My favorite Christmas story |
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Post by Ava on Dec 9, 2014 23:36:52 GMT -5
I am an atheist and I have always celebrated Christmas. I love Christmas, but I equally enjoy New Year's Eve. I also celebrate Epiphany on January 6.
My whole family is atheist but we like the celebration. For the children is all about Santa and the Three Magic Kings. For us it's a time when we all get together, eat good food, talk, laugh. I would be very sad if I couldn't celebrate Christmas. But it doesn't have any religious significance for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 23:39:51 GMT -5
My family has several closet Atheists, I'm the only one that has actually come out (even my dad still won't). Xmas is a day off and an excuse for the family to get together, I just don't go to church when the breakfast/present opening is done.
Just because we don't believe in one God or another doesn't mean we don't like a good party.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Dec 9, 2014 23:46:08 GMT -5
Come to the dark side.
We have velvety chocolate Yule log.
We also have double chocolate chip cookies and bacon too. We have BACON ! We have Weed ! We have Candy ! Now exactly where is it you live  |
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Post by Jaguar on Dec 9, 2014 23:47:14 GMT -5
We also have double chocolate chip cookies and bacon too. We have BACON ! We have Weed ! We have Candy ! Now exactly where is it you live It's a secret. |
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Post by steff on Dec 9, 2014 23:56:58 GMT -5
We also have double chocolate chip cookies and bacon too. We have BACON ! We have Weed ! We have Candy ! Now exactly where is it you live I got good Xmas smoke too!  |
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 10, 2014 2:56:35 GMT -5
Now exactly where is it you live I got good Xmas smoke too! Who doesn't?!
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 10, 2014 7:09:02 GMT -5
Christmas has nothing to do with Christ, and never has. Q.E.D.  |
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Post by skubikky on Dec 10, 2014 7:49:16 GMT -5
It just seems a bit disingenuous to me for an atheist or agnostic to celebrate Christmas. How do they reconcile their celebratory activities with their religious beliefs (or lack there of in this case)? They probably just enjoy the celebration in whatever manner they do it. In addition, they probably don't give a s$%t what you or anyone else thinks about it. |
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Post by skubikky on Dec 10, 2014 8:00:17 GMT -5
Christmas has nothing to do with Christ, and never has. Q.E.D. Oy vay Virgil.....I'll light a candle and say a novena for you.  |
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Dec 10, 2014 8:11:04 GMT -5
Great, now all I want is cake... Yep. |
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 10, 2014 8:18:08 GMT -5
But what do you tell your kids when they inevitably ask "why do we celebrate Christmas?" Surely you don't say you're kind of celebrating a Christian holiday, but we're not Christians. Do kids of atheists really ask that? My children have never once questioned an occasion for candy, cookies and gifts. They might ask if we harped on the meaning of life, or whatever. They might ask if we were the only family on the block that celebrated this holiday. If my kids asked why we celebrated Christmas, I would ask them why we wouldn't celebrate Christmas. I have no idea why we celebrate Halloween. Valentine's day is totally made up. New Year's is kind of random. |
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