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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 21, 2014 19:10:11 GMT -5
Check again on the "divorced once" stat. I do not see this. Wife #1 is name Zampino. Wife #2 is still wife Jada Pinkett. I guess they're separated, not divorced.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 21, 2014 19:15:43 GMT -5
Hey. Those two paragons of good, wholesome, conservative family values, Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh, have been married three and four times respectively, and never a widower.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 21, 2014 19:21:28 GMT -5
I do not see this. Wife #1 is name Zampino. Wife #2 is still wife Jada Pinkett. I guess they're separated, not divorced.
By Janine Rayford Rubenstein
11/04/2014 AT 01:00 PM EST Ever wonder how Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith keep the romance alive?
The Gotham star, 43, says she recently discovered husband Will keeps a secret photo diary of her – and even shared a shot.
"I discovered the sexiest secret the other day," she wrote in her Nov. 1 Facebook post. "My husband takes pics of me in my sleep. He has a whole stash he revealed to me and I really enjoyed getting a glimpse of myself through his eyes. I had to share one with you guys."
The photo shows Pinkett Smith laying shirtless on her side across a bed.
The couple have been married for 16 years and are parents to Jaden, 16, and Willow, 14.
Ever open about their loving marriage, Pinkett Smith ended her post saying "Life is art. Life is beauty. J."
www.people.com/article/jada-pinkett-smith-nude-photo
Any reason why you are guessing about this when you could be researching it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 20:11:07 GMT -5
billisonboard, Virgil just want to say Will Smith not better than Bill Cosby. He is not separated. I don't think wikipedia or people magazine is research.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 21, 2014 20:18:47 GMT -5
... I don't think wikipedia or people magazine is research. I have no idea what your definition of research is but for me looking for sources of information which others have collected is "re-search". YMMV
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Nov 21, 2014 20:38:37 GMT -5
Will Smith doesn't deserve to be placed into the same pigeon-hole as Mr Cosby.
Will is a loving and responsible father and faithful husband, doesn't get into any "Hollywood scandal", doesn't play around, doesn't cause public scenes, doesn't do drugs or (or drug anyone), and hasn't been under suspicion of drugging, victimizing or raping (multiple) women - over a number of years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 20:59:57 GMT -5
Will Smith doesn't deserve to be placed into the same pigeon-hole as Mr Cosby.
Will is a loving and responsible father and faithful husband, doesn't get into any "Hollywood scandal", doesn't play around, doesn't cause public scenes, doesn't do drugs or (or drug anyone), and hasn't been under suspicion of drugging, victimizing or raping (multiple) women - over a number of years. No, he is not in hole. I was telling that I like him better and maybe Virgil would like him better too. Virgil is arguing with me to say he is not so good. Not working on me. You go read whole conversation now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 21:02:27 GMT -5
... I don't think wikipedia or people magazine is research. I have no idea what your definition of research is but for me looking for sources of information which others have collected is "re-search". YMMV Anybody can post wikipedia and it can be wrong, so that is not good research. People is rag magazine does not have to have facts. Look at any source is not research. I can go to those sites that write things wrong and just believe it?
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 21, 2014 21:03:38 GMT -5
I don't think Scottish Lassie was addressing her post to you, @taliare. I believe hers was a general, confirming post.
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 21, 2014 21:09:11 GMT -5
I have no idea what your definition of research is but for me looking for sources of information which others have collected is "re-search". YMMV Anybody can post wikipedia and it can be wrong, so that is not good research. People is rag magazine does not have to have facts. Look at any source is not research. I can go to those sites that write things wrong and just believe it? Again, taliare, I'm pretty sure billisonboard was not addressing you with his post. It appears he was addressing Virgil, instead.
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Post by steff on Nov 21, 2014 21:10:53 GMT -5
Will Smith also made family friendly & for the most part a "clean" tv show. It was socially conscious, handled teenaged issues in a positive clean way, & showed an extended loving family that supports each other. It had a core father figure, who while being the butt of jokes, was also the one that everyone turned to for advice & guidance. While I'm not particularly a Will Smith fan, he did make some great tv. And it's kinda fun & interesting to start really comparing him to cosby. Plus Will did save the world from aliens, don't think Bill has done that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 21:16:36 GMT -5
Anybody can post wikipedia and it can be wrong, so that is not good research. People is rag magazine does not have to have facts. Look at any source is not research. I can go to those sites that write things wrong and just believe it? Again, taliare, I'm pretty sure billisonboard was not addressing you with his post. It appears he was addressing Virgil, instead. He is quoting me saying I don't think people or wiki is reasearch. How does this not address me. I should not speak back?
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 21, 2014 21:20:37 GMT -5
I have no idea what your definition of research is but for me looking for sources of information which others have collected is "re-search". YMMV Anybody can post wikipedia and it can be wrong, so that is not good research. People is rag magazine does not have to have facts. Look at any source is not research. I can go to those sites that write things wrong and just believe it? Then what are basing your posts on? How do you know what you are claiming is true of Will Smith? (You do realize that all of the articles that I have linked to support what you are saying.)
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 21, 2014 21:22:39 GMT -5
I guess they're separated, not divorced.
By Janine Rayford Rubenstein
11/04/2014 AT 01:00 PM EST Ever wonder how Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith keep the romance alive?
The Gotham star, 43, says she recently discovered husband Will keeps a secret photo diary of her – and even shared a shot.
"I discovered the sexiest secret the other day," she wrote in her Nov. 1 Facebook post. "My husband takes pics of me in my sleep. He has a whole stash he revealed to me and I really enjoyed getting a glimpse of myself through his eyes. I had to share one with you guys."
The photo shows Pinkett Smith laying shirtless on her side across a bed.
The couple have been married for 16 years and are parents to Jaden, 16, and Willow, 14.
Ever open about their loving marriage, Pinkett Smith ended her post saying "Life is art. Life is beauty. J."
www.people.com/article/jada-pinkett-smith-nude-photo
Any reason why you are guessing about this when you could be researching it? "Will Smith separated...", "Will Smith being investigated by CPS...", "Will Smith caught cheating with..." is what came up when I Googled him. It seemed to be what taliare was looking for. If you want to "research" that, be my guest. Mr. Smith lost my respect in the summer of 2004. It's none of your business why.
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 21, 2014 21:22:59 GMT -5
Again, taliare, I'm pretty sure billisonboard was not addressing you with his post. It appears he was addressing Virgil, instead. He is quoting me saying I don't think people or wiki is reasearch. How does this not address me. I should not speak back? Ahh. My bad and my apologies! I thought you meant billisonboard's other post. So sorry for my confusion.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 21, 2014 21:23:51 GMT -5
Will Smith also made family friendly & for the most part a "clean" tv show. It was socially conscious, handled teenaged issues in a positive clean way, & showed an extended loving family that supports each other. It had a core father figure, who while being the butt of jokes, was also the one that everyone turned to for advice & guidance. While I'm not particularly a Will Smith fan, he did make some great tv. And it's kinda fun & interesting to start really comparing him to cosby. Plus Will did save the world from aliens, don't think Bill has done that. I thought it was a great show.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 21, 2014 21:32:02 GMT -5
... "Will Smith separated...", "Will Smith being investigated by CPS...", "Will Smith caught cheating with..." is what came up when I Googled him. ... ... Link to any of it?
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Post by Opti on Nov 21, 2014 21:39:00 GMT -5
Steff it is interesting to compare their public and TV character personas, but I think with celebs I think its rare to really know who they are in private. Unless of course you know them well.
It would be interesting to know how much input either of them had in those shows.
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Post by Opti on Nov 21, 2014 21:46:55 GMT -5
By Janine Rayford Rubenstein
11/04/2014 AT 01:00 PM EST Ever wonder how Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith keep the romance alive?
The Gotham star, 43, says she recently discovered husband Will keeps a secret photo diary of her – and even shared a shot.
"I discovered the sexiest secret the other day," she wrote in her Nov. 1 Facebook post. "My husband takes pics of me in my sleep. He has a whole stash he revealed to me and I really enjoyed getting a glimpse of myself through his eyes. I had to share one with you guys."
The photo shows Pinkett Smith laying shirtless on her side across a bed.
The couple have been married for 16 years and are parents to Jaden, 16, and Willow, 14.
Ever open about their loving marriage, Pinkett Smith ended her post saying "Life is art. Life is beauty. J."
www.people.com/article/jada-pinkett-smith-nude-photo
Any reason why you are guessing about this when you could be researching it? "Will Smith separated...", "Will Smith being investigated by CPS...", "Will Smith caught cheating with..." is what came up when I Googled him. It seemed to be what taliare was looking for. If you want to "research" that, be my guest. Mr. Smith lost my respect in the summer of 2004. It's none of your business why. I find it hard to know what's real and what's made up crap used to sell magazines or things like the Enquirer. Just the other day in the grocery store line I was reading this front page thing alleging Angie Jolie is forbidding Brad Pitt to talk to George because she hates his new wife Amal. From my small reading of a couple celeb biographies I understand that the more popular you are the more likely bogus stories will run concerning you in many places and get legs because people read them.
That's why for me, I feel I really can't know what the truth is or is not about any celebrity in general. The real bad stuff tends to come out and be true, but the rest of it? Real bad stuff, see Charlie Sheen and other celeb meltdowns.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 21, 2014 21:58:44 GMT -5
... "Will Smith separated...", "Will Smith being investigated by CPS...", "Will Smith caught cheating with..." is what came up when I Googled him. ... ... Link to any of it?You've got to be joking. I felt dirty enough just searching for it and reading the article titles. Type in "Will Smith scandal" at duckduckgo.com and behold 8 million Will Smith scandals.
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 21, 2014 22:00:02 GMT -5
You've got to be joking. I felt dirty enough just searching for it and reading the article titles. Type in "Will Smith scandal" at duckduckgo.com and behold 8 million Will Smith scandals. Eight million?!? Really?!? Oh, my!
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 21, 2014 22:02:25 GMT -5
You've got to be joking. I felt dirty enough just searching for it and reading the article titles. Type in "Will Smith scandal" at duckduckgo.com and behold 8 million Will Smith scandals. Eight million?!? Really?!? Oh, my! Some of them might be duplicates. I don't know.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 21, 2014 22:02:27 GMT -5
You've got to be joking. I felt dirty enough just searching for it and reading the article titles. Type in "Will Smith scandal" at duckduckgo.com and behold 8 million Will Smith scandals. Eight million?!? Really?!? Oh, my! that is a scandal every 12 minutes, 8 hours a day, for 75 years. he is a busy fellow.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 22:03:01 GMT -5
By Janine Rayford Rubenstein
11/04/2014 AT 01:00 PM EST Ever wonder how Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith keep the romance alive?
The Gotham star, 43, says she recently discovered husband Will keeps a secret photo diary of her – and even shared a shot.
"I discovered the sexiest secret the other day," she wrote in her Nov. 1 Facebook post. "My husband takes pics of me in my sleep. He has a whole stash he revealed to me and I really enjoyed getting a glimpse of myself through his eyes. I had to share one with you guys."
The photo shows Pinkett Smith laying shirtless on her side across a bed.
The couple have been married for 16 years and are parents to Jaden, 16, and Willow, 14.
Ever open about their loving marriage, Pinkett Smith ended her post saying "Life is art. Life is beauty. J."
www.people.com/article/jada-pinkett-smith-nude-photo
Any reason why you are guessing about this when you could be researching it? "Will Smith separated...", "Will Smith being investigated by CPS...", "Will Smith caught cheating with..." is what came up when I Googled him. It seemed to be what taliare was looking for. If you want to "research" that, be my guest. Mr. Smith lost my respect in the summer of 2004. It's none of your business why. Well it kinda is since you are the one that brought it up. BTW when I googled Will Smith I also got one that said "Will Smith Dead". You kinda need to read the articles.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 21, 2014 22:06:15 GMT -5
Will Smith also made family friendly & for the most part a "clean" tv show. It was socially conscious, handled teenaged issues in a positive clean way, & showed an extended loving family that supports each other. It had a core father figure, who while being the butt of jokes, was also the one that everyone turned to for advice & guidance. While I'm not particularly a Will Smith fan, he did make some great tv. And it's kinda fun & interesting to start really comparing him to cosby. Plus Will did save the world from aliens, don't think Bill has done that. will smith is also an unerringly wholesome (but somewhat boring) rapper.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 22:06:58 GMT -5
It looks like you made a bunch of assumptions
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 21, 2014 22:08:55 GMT -5
"Will Smith separated...", "Will Smith being investigated by CPS...", "Will Smith caught cheating with..." is what came up when I Googled him. It seemed to be what taliare was looking for. If you want to "research" that, be my guest. Mr. Smith lost my respect in the summer of 2004. It's none of your business why. Well it kinda is since you are the one that brought it up. BTW when I googled Will Smith I also got one that said "Will Smith Dead". You kinda need to read the articles. I am not the one who brought it up. I briefly mentioned Mr. Smith's name and I deeply regret doing so now.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 21, 2014 22:11:40 GMT -5
Well it kinda is since you are the one that brought it up. BTW when I googled Will Smith I also got one that said "Will Smith Dead". You kinda need to read the articles. I am not the one who brought it up. I briefly mentioned Mr. Smith's name and I deeply regret doing so now. there are a lot of things to regret in life, but that doesn't rank high on my list.
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Post by Opti on Nov 21, 2014 22:15:09 GMT -5
Interesting article - www.nytimes.com/2014/11/21/upshot/bill-cosbys-sudden-fall-explained-sociologically.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0
According to the research of Ari Adut, a University of Texas sociologist, moral scandals like this one arise when a suspected transgression becomes common knowledge.
Even if there is dispersed knowledge about the allegations (as in Mr. Cosby’s case), the information may not trigger a reaction unless it receives what Mr. Adut calls “collective and focused attention.”
In Mr. Cosby’s case, allegations by numerous young women that he drugged and raped them were largely ignored until a routine performed last month by the comedian Hannibal Buress drew newfound attention to the claims.
Mr. Buress’s routine appears to have helped foster that collective, focused attention.
According to Mr. Adut, this level of attention can make allegations of misconduct much more powerful by turning them into what game theorists call common knowledge. When everyone knows that everyone else knows about the claim (and so on), society can judge people and groups that do not act on that knowledge.
Under these circumstances, moral scandals can contaminate reputable groups and institutions that are linked to the target, forcing them to distance themselves publicly. In this case, NBC, Netflix and TV Land had previously maintained relationships with Mr. Cosby, but they quickly cut ties with him when the controversy erupted.
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