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[midwesterner (banned)]

Mar 3, 2011 17:25:25 GMT -5 @vl said:

then it's doubtful that you invest because the two are mutually exclusive.

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Heavens... what was done before Wall Street? What was done before Hedge Funds, Mutual Funds and Banks having Investment divisions dedicated to wealth building? NONE of these helped build America, so why are they inclusive and critical now.
I'll stick with collapsing the scam and separating the golden eggs from the green hams.

Q-TIP has just been schooled.

[Deleted]

Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does.

[frankq]

Really? Wall Street and investment banks have none nothing to promote development and growth of businesses? Really? The entire monitary and financial structure has been detrimental to America? Tell that to small business owners who depend on their banks. Tell that to some of those same business owners who have taken their companies public with the help of the markets. Nothing is all good, but nothing is all bad either, at least to rational people. Then tell us boys, what have you invested in besides the markets all of this time? You skirt questions just like your buddy Mid. All gravy but no meat. You guys are the most anti-American bunch I've ever seen.

[frankq]

Mar 3, 2011 17:37:45 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does.

I rest my case.

[frankq]

Mar 3, 2011 17:39:55 GMT -5 frankq said:

Mar 3, 2011 17:37:45 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does.

I rest my case.

Mid. YOU'VE JUST BEEN SCHOOLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLMFAO!!!!!!!!!

[comokate]

Mar 3, 2011 16:35:21 GMT -5 frankq said:

"I'm quite aware of the "fun" you seem to have with your buds mocking others; it's openly ( and permanently) displayed for all to see. Ah...the digital age"

Oh no! Please don't tell my dad!

No one has to "tell your dad" when you supply everything yourself.
"Social media" is constantly being combed through for information. Enjoy your future fall out-

[kman]

Another threat...why kate ...your full of surprises!

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Then tell us boys, what have you invested in besides the markets all of this time? You skirt questions just like your buddy Mid. All gravy but no meat. You guys are the most anti-American bunch I've ever seen.

K4Q!

[comokate]

Mar 3, 2011 21:49:57 GMT -5 kman said:

Another threat...why kate ...your full of surprises!

Why Kman, are you accusing me of something? No surprise there.
Facebook is selling personal information, as well as access to posts and "private messages" to almost anyone who will pay for the information. Thinking they are the only social media group to do so is extremely foolish.
Post what you want till your fingertips turn blue. Just don't be surprised when you have to own it-

[kman]

I feel threatened...perhaps I should contact the authorities. The threats are unbearable.

[Virgil Showlion]

Social networks mining data and then selling it to the highest bidder is nothing new.

In fact, the act of curtailing a data privacy policy on the fly is now officially known as "zuckering" in the English lexicon, named after Mr. Zuckerberg.

I agree with Como: sites like LinkedIn, MSN, etc. have all discovered that zuckering consumers helps supplement those modest advertising revenues.

ETA: Would you two quit poking at each other? Decoy is taking a breather. Mid is banned for a day. I'd like to have at least one day (March 4, 2011) where MT enjoys a ceasefire.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

kman you should contact the authorities, I'm afraid for you right now.

[comokate]

That's a great idea ! Have fun explaining !

[kman]

What are you talking about Virgil? como has threatened two people Q and myself. This was volunteered not asked for.

[kman]

That's a great idea ! Have fun explaining !

Another swing.....I should get banned for sitting here taking it.

[comokate]

Mar 3, 2011 22:36:35 GMT -5 kman said:

What are you talking about Virgil? como has threatened two people Q and myself. This was volunteered not asked for.

Pointing out facts is not threatening no matter how your mind works.
Telling me I "made enemies" would probably be viewed very differently.

[domeasingold]

Rational

Interesting word. It must be hard to understand a word like that.

R A T I O N A L Spelling it out doesn't make it easier to understand.

How do rational people ever understand anything.

[tyfighter3]

They don't unless you are a SOCIOPATH.

[kman]

Don't forget to look off into the distance...That's enough bs for me to deal with tonight

[frankq]

Mar 3, 2011 21:23:58 GMT -5 @comokate said:

Mar 3, 2011 16:35:21 GMT -5 frankq said:

"I'm quite aware of the "fun" you seem to have with your buds mocking others; it's openly ( and permanently) displayed for all to see. Ah...the digital age"

Oh no! Please don't tell my dad!

No one has to "tell your dad" when you supply everything yourself.
"Social media" is constantly being combed through for information. Enjoy your future fall out-

Oh my! Future fallout! I guess it's time to stock the bunker.

[frankq]

So, am I to understand that we should be worried that the Thought Police are going to come take us from our beds in the dark of night for what we....post here on MT? Boy, this stuff really belongs on the other thread.

[mikec]

Before Wall Street there was no America

Wall Street was the street in New Amsterdam (Now New York) at the wall in What is now Manhatten that was the north end of the City.

The Dutch hung around there and traded equities......

Since that practice was started At the Wall there has been what I would call huge growth in the country.... I will give Wall street and what the Dutch started 350 or so years ago some of the credit... ;D

[vl]

"Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does."

I guess it depends on whether you know trees in a forest or whether you're looking at a billboard of them and assuming something you cannot back or validate. A reminder that MY financial history goes back to the CEO's of the current oligarchies.
What we have in play today is hardly what the industry should or needs to be. How cruel and minuscule can you be to not see what monstrous destruction exists because a few people desire to be trillionaires and a group of no-integrity followers would be happy with millions and billions while the vast majority are impoverished?
Archie-- do you suggest that you rising up in wealth on coat-tails rather than earned through effort is your "right"? Nothing in the financial sector today can sustain. It HAS to burn-out because there isn't enough currency to feed it indefinitely. Would you prefer it collapsed-- some day after devastating all that it can, or dowsing it now where only a small portion of the overall forest is charred and the vast majority can transition to recover it?

Insanity and stupidity is- running around the crashed Brinks truck that spilled bags of money headed for funding your company's payroll. Indeed, it feels great to grab what you can but you eventually realize that what you grabbed eliminates your own paycheck.

I wouldn't call for something I wasn't absolutely sure I could envision the course.

[comokate]

Mar 4, 2011 7:33:27 GMT -5 @vl said:

"Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does."

I guess it depends on whether you know trees in a forest or whether you're looking at a billboard of them and assuming something you cannot back or validate. A reminder that MY financial history goes back to the CEO's of the current oligarchies.
What we have in play today is hardly what the industry should or needs to be. How cruel and minuscule can you be to not see what monstrous destruction exists because a few people desire to be trillionaires and a group of no-integrity followers would be happy with millions and billions while the vast majority are impoverished?
Archie-- do you suggest that you rising up in wealth on coat-tails rather than earned through effort is your "right"? Nothing in the financial sector today can sustain. It HAS to burn-out because there isn't enough currency to feed it indefinitely. Would you prefer it collapsed-- some day after devastating all that it can, or dowsing it now where only a small portion of the overall forest is charred and the vast majority can transition to recover it?

Insanity and stupidity is- running around the crashed Brinks truck that spilled bags of money headed for funding your company's payroll. Indeed, it feels great to grab what you can but you eventually realize that what you grabbed eliminates your own paycheck.

I wouldn't call for something I wasn't absolutely sure I could envision the course.

V_L,
it's ironic those insisting :
Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does.
have yet to realize the system has already collapsed. However those arguing differently are hardly unbiased; you won't hear a baker extolling the virtues of a low carb diet-

[Deleted]

Mar 4, 2011 8:41:59 GMT -5 @comokate said:

Mar 4, 2011 7:33:27 GMT -5 @vl said:

"Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does."

I guess it depends on whether you know trees in a forest or whether you're looking at a billboard of them and assuming something you cannot back or validate. A reminder that MY financial history goes back to the CEO's of the current oligarchies.
What we have in play today is hardly what the industry should or needs to be. How cruel and minuscule can you be to not see what monstrous destruction exists because a few people desire to be trillionaires and a group of no-integrity followers would be happy with millions and billions while the vast majority are impoverished?
Archie-- do you suggest that you rising up in wealth on coat-tails rather than earned through effort is your "right"? Nothing in the financial sector today can sustain. It HAS to burn-out because there isn't enough currency to feed it indefinitely. Would you prefer it collapsed-- some day after devastating all that it can, or dowsing it now where only a small portion of the overall forest is charred and the vast majority can transition to recover it?

Insanity and stupidity is- running around the crashed Brinks truck that spilled bags of money headed for funding your company's payroll. Indeed, it feels great to grab what you can but you eventually realize that what you grabbed eliminates your own paycheck.

I wouldn't call for something I wasn't absolutely sure I could envision the course.

V_L,
it's ironic those insisting :
Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does.
have yet to realize the system has already collapsed. However those arguing differently are hardly unbiased; you won't hear a baker extolling the virtues of a low carb diet-

I don't think it's collapsed as much as changed enough to put a lot of people out of their comfort zone. The hypothetical situation of the brinks truck by V_L is too simplistic to really apply to anything.

[comokate]

Mar 4, 2011 9:08:41 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Mar 4, 2011 8:41:59 GMT -5 @comokate said:

V_L,
it's ironic those insisting :
Calling for and hoping for the collapse of the entire world financial system is not a something a sane person does.
have yet to realize the system has already collapsed. However those arguing differently are hardly unbiased; you won't hear a baker extolling the virtues of a low carb diet-

I don't think it's collapsed as much as changed enough to put a lot of people out of their comfort zone. The hypothetical situation of the brinks truck by V_L is too simplistic to really apply to anything.

Jma,
I've always had respect for your posts. That said, the "change" has put a lot of people out of their homes; hardly a "comfort zone".
Last night at a school meeting, two of my neighbors on my block, informed me they were recently laid off. One is a physical therapist, one works in IT. Both have children. Both fear losing their homes. Their comfort zone has been shattered.

[usaone]

The 30 year average for Job losses is almost 3 Million people per year.

Through the good times and bad times Millions of people every year are left jobless.

If you have a good education you will find a job.

[neohguy]

Mar 4, 2011 9:22:33 GMT -5 usaone said:

The 30 year average for Job losses is almost 3 Million people per year.

Through the good times and bad times Millions of people every year are left jobless.

If you have a good education you will find a job.

You do understand that a good education is not equally available to everybody don't you? The poor have to be exceptionally smart, motivated, and lucky to have access to a good education in this country.
There are also those that have lower IQ's, wealthy or poor, and a higher education would be a waste of time. These people need jobs too.

[comokate]

Mar 4, 2011 9:22:33 GMT -5 usaone said:

The 30 year average for Job losses is almost 3 Million people per year.

Through the good times and bad times Millions of people every year are left jobless.

If you have a good education you will find a job.

Not true. There are many areas around the country where job prospects are dismal despite applicant's " good educations". For those with homes and families, what do you expect them to do? Walk away from a mortgage? File bankruptcy?Pull their children out of school and go....where? With what money? Employers are now looking at credit histories to screen applicants.


added note to Neoh's post:
It has been determined that I.Q. is generally an inherited trait. So those who are born with a low I.Q. are basically born with a disability that, in this country, will haunt them economically the rest of their lives.

[Deleted]

Mar 4, 2011 9:14:13 GMT -5 @comokate said:

Mar 4, 2011 9:08:41 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

I don't think it's collapsed as much as changed enough to put a lot of people out of their comfort zone. The hypothetical situation of the brinks truck by V_L is too simplistic to really apply to anything.

Jma,
I've always had respect for your posts. That said, the "change" has put a lot of people out of their homes; hardly a "comfort zone".
Last night at a school meeting, two of my neighbors on my block, informed me they were recently laid off. One is a physical therapist, one works in IT. Both have children. Both fear losing their homes. Their comfort zone has been shattered.

Comfort zone wasn't a good choice of words for the changes that are happening. On a little more positive note. There was a physical therapist that worked at our regional hospital in Mountain home, Ar. His name was Rowdy. He was very good at what he did and was requested by almost everyone that required PT from their physician. He never received more compensation from the hospital than the other therapists even though he had much more education in his line of work and related very well with his patients. To make a long story shorter, he started his own clinic by buying a hardware/ lumber yard building that went out of business in 2005. He is now currently doing well and employs more staff than the original hardware business. His operation is about the same size as the hospitals PT area. Due to population increases both PT operations are doing well. Events like these give me hope that not everything is heading down the drain.