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Post by Firebird on Oct 8, 2014 16:06:06 GMT -5
DH and I are both readers, so they were raised thinking that getting up on your day off and spending it on the couch reading is bliss.
I really hope BB is a reader... it will be so hard for me if she's not. Heck, it's hard for me right now because she refuses to let me read to her
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Post by Formerly SK on Oct 8, 2014 16:07:29 GMT -5
I wish. My two, a bookstore, and a debit card is asking for trouble. Their elementary school had a program for 3rd through 6th grade where they had to read X number of books during the year on their own time. I think the goal was like 2 or 3. For each book read they got a little book shaped colored plastic charm. The younger one's fourth grade teacher stopped giving them to her after the 20th one. She's still got a pile of those little charms somewhere. This year is the first time we've really put our foot down about their reading habits. They have to read 2 books or 300 pages per semester for their 8th grade English class, which to me is absurdly low for an advanced English class, but whatever. To make it more interesting we went through our book collection and picked out the books they're allowed to read for that goal. They're free to read as much as they want outside of that, but their 2 books have to come from our list of books which are basically classics, groundbreaking in their genre, or authors that we think are superb and make you think. Wow that does seem low. Last year in 3rd grade my DS had to read 500 pages per trimester (and write book summaries of the books). He's doing it again this year in 4th grade.
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Post by Shooby on Oct 8, 2014 16:08:36 GMT -5
They can read whatever they want. I mean, they aren't bringing home hardcore porn books so that is probably the only thing that I would take notice of.
As for movies and TV, I was more cautious when they were younger. Once my sons hit the teen years, most of the movies, even if they didn't see them at the theater or my house, they were seeing at friends' homes. So, unfortunately you cannot police what they are seeing elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 16:37:45 GMT -5
Sexual violence was my hill to die on but at their ages now there isn't much I censor. I might still advise against for daughter and she's generally receptive. uhm, not sure I want to share my bedside drawer story
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Post by Shooby on Oct 8, 2014 16:40:51 GMT -5
My daughter runs out of the room screaming when I am watching Hoarders or Air Disasters. Both of those shows bother her, lol.
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Post by Abby Normal on Oct 8, 2014 16:44:47 GMT -5
I don't limit his reading, but I've never had much of an issue. He's always been an advanced reader so he's having a harder time trying to find things that interest him but are not too easy or too advanced. I limit movies only because he'll be inclined to watch something, then crawl in bed with me. But he's pretty quick to leave the room (or ask to watch something else) if he doesn't like it.
Heck- I can't even watch Grey's Anatomy with him in the room because it grosses him out.
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Post by Malarky on Oct 8, 2014 16:47:55 GMT -5
DH and I are both readers, so they were raised thinking that getting up on your day off and spending it on the couch reading is bliss.
I really hope BB is a reader... it will be so hard for me if she's not. Heck, it's hard for me right now because she refuses to let me read to her My kids always let me read to them. But DS needed full length novels by second grade. Many was the night that I fell asleep in DD's bed reading Harry Potter 1-3 to both of them. Thankfully DS decided to read 4 to himself. Is Baby Bird interested in audio books? Can you have them as background noise? DD's teachers have often initially refused to believe that DD is as extensively read as she is. I introduced her to so many classics that so many of her contemporaries haven't read. She's a really mediocre student with an amazing vocabulary.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Oct 8, 2014 16:50:43 GMT -5
DH and I are both readers, so they were raised thinking that getting up on your day off and spending it on the couch reading is bliss.
I really hope BB is a reader... it will be so hard for me if she's not. Heck, it's hard for me right now because she refuses to let me read to her I think she'll be a gamer.
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Post by Firebird on Oct 8, 2014 16:51:00 GMT -5
Is Baby Bird interested in audio books? Can you have them as background noise?
She likes to read to us. Very rarely does she have the patience to sit and listen while we read to her.
I love to read, and reading to kids is one of my favorite things. So this is frustrating. As long as she grows out of it by 3 or 4, it'll be fine. I don't have a burning desire to read The Foot Book 83,509 times.
But I do very much want to be able to read her a chapter a night from bigger books when she's old enough to appreciate them. Some of my favorite memories with my mom involve her reading Ramona and Chronicles of Narnia and so forth.
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Post by Firebird on Oct 8, 2014 16:51:25 GMT -5
I think she'll be a gamer.
Oh for the love of sweet baby Jesus, do not wish that on me!
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Post by Phoenix84 on Oct 8, 2014 16:55:02 GMT -5
I think she'll be a gamer.
Oh for the love of sweet baby Jesus, do not wish that on me! Hey, I am a gamer and I turned out okay... mostly.
Gamer chicks are hot.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 8, 2014 16:55:04 GMT -5
Is Baby Bird interested in audio books? Can you have them as background noise?
She likes to read to us. Very rarely does she have the patience to sit and listen while we read to her. I love to read, and reading to kids is one of my favorite things. So this is frustrating. As long as she grows out of it by 3 or 4, it'll be fine. I don't have a burning desire to read The Foot Book 83,509 times. But I do very much want to be able to read her a chapter a night from bigger books when she's old enough to appreciate them. Some of my favorite memories with my mom involve her reading Ramona and Chronicles of Narnia and so forth. I wouldn't stress yet, but if you have a library close to you, she might get more into it if she gets to pick out her books for the week. I remember worrying that ds would get bored and want down/wander off when I read to him when he was little, but now we read multiple books a night and he'll choose stories over other activities in the late evening. DD is closer to baby birds age and while she is subjected to bedtime story reading already, most nights she sits next to us "reading" her own book rather than listening intently to what we are reading.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 8, 2014 17:00:34 GMT -5
Is Baby Bird interested in audio books? Can you have them as background noise?
She likes to read to us. Very rarely does she have the patience to sit and listen while we read to her. I love to read, and reading to kids is one of my favorite things. So this is frustrating. As long as she grows out of it by 3 or 4, it'll be fine. I don't have a burning desire to read The Foot Book 83,509 times. But I do very much want to be able to read her a chapter a night from bigger books when she's old enough to appreciate them. Some of my favorite memories with my mom involve her reading Ramona and Chronicles of Narnia and so forth. My personal library is over 800 books. Many of them saved from when I first read them starting in 4th grade. When DD was born I had dreams of her reading the same books I read and us being able to discuss them. Fast foward to 4th grade where the kid still didn't have any interest in reading. Then she found a series of books that flipped the switch. They really hooked her on reading. I made her a deal - for every book of hers that I read she'd read a book of mine. Well, she hates my genre. My hopes were shattered . I still read her books (and they are total GAG fluff) so we could discuss them. She's now reading a few years ahead of her level so I'm ok with it. As long as the kid reads I'm good.
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Post by The Home 6 on Oct 8, 2014 17:04:00 GMT -5
My older one is 8 and a voracious reader. She is into "Magic Treehouse" books right now, and snags anything with Star Wars on it from the library. As for censoring what she reads? I won't let her read Twilight. Nope, nope, nope. Not because of the story-because of the horrible writing.
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Post by Firebird on Oct 8, 2014 17:06:32 GMT -5
My personal library is over 800 books. Many of them saved from when I first read them starting in 4th grade. When DD was born I had dreams of her reading the same books I read and us being able to discuss them.
I recently got rid of 90% of our library - I ONLY kept the kids and YA books. Almost all of the adult books are gone, with a few very special exceptions. I had already replaced a good number of them on Kindle, and Kindle is where I get all my books these days. It's pretty rare for me to read a physical book (and when I do, it's almost always a YA book, haha). The only thing Kindle ISN'T great for is picture books for little kids or reading chapter books aloud like I hope to do with Babybird, so those were the ones I saved. I'm constantly kicking myself for getting rid of my Animorph books because for some reason, Kindle only has the first seven. I hunt for them at book sales but they're rare. It was tough getting rid of all those books - it was like saying goodbye to old friends, many of whom had traveled the country with me throughout my many moves. But I know I can get them back anytime, and I love having hundreds of books available anytime I want that fit neatly into my pocket Plus, the lack of books really agrees with my "I hate clutter!" side.
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Post by shanendoah on Oct 8, 2014 18:13:39 GMT -5
Pop Tart is 11 and in the 5th grade.
There are restrictions on what she reads in the sense that she cannot just read graphic novels. She has to read books without pictures, too.
There are some restrictions on TV- mostly that she can't watch reality shows (we did let her watch one cupcake one), and that she watches her TV via Netflix and Amazon Prime. No commercials.
While at a friend's house, she saw a preview for the Conjuring and stopped being able to walk down our hallway after dark. Catching even 10 seconds of a preview for Annabelle (the prequel to the Conjuring) brought back anxiety attacks.
So there are very strict limits on anything even vaguely horror related. For similar reasons, we restrict movies with too much violence. She's a child who witnessed real violence in her life and at 11, she does not need to see movies that are PG13 or R for violence.
I do not restrict for nudity or language. She has watched Pitch Perfect with us.
Video games are a little different. She plays Fable III (because you can be a girl) and often ends up calling C to help her with boss fights. She LOVES Sims 3, and plays that on her own. She plays WoW with us.
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Post by Malarky on Oct 8, 2014 18:22:57 GMT -5
I think she'll be a gamer.
Oh for the love of sweet baby Jesus, do not wish that on me! I taught DS to read by playing Pokeman on a gameboy. Seriously. Then he went to school and they said he couldn't read. Ummm...yes he can. He just won't do it for you. By second grade, he was reading Harry Potter on his own. DH and I introduced him to Ray Bradbury, Kurt Vonnegut, Frank Herbert. When he was in 5th grade I got "Ender's Game" added to the reading list because there wasn't anything that interested "those kids." As time went on, he has expanded his horizons. And DS is a big gamer. But he too can spend an entire day lost in a book.
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Post by Malarky on Oct 8, 2014 18:29:06 GMT -5
she cannot just read graphic novels.
These aren't even on my radar. Not sure if my kids ever read them, I think not. I could be wrong. Again, I've never censored their reading materials. I was never a fan of comic books and the few times I've looked at graphic novels they just annoy me. I want my stories presented neatly, sequentially on a page, preferably without a lot of pictures. I'm also incapable of reading a magazine. Too much "noise". Again, I've never seen either of my kids read one. I'm not known for being conventional.
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 8, 2014 18:35:56 GMT -5
DS liked some series called, I think, Captain Underpants? I just about gagged but the librarian reminded me that reading was important, not always what they read has to be War and Peace.
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Post by ohhkay2 on Oct 8, 2014 19:10:02 GMT -5
"DS liked some series called, I think, Captain Underpants? I just about gagged but the librarian reminded me thwas important, not always what they read has to be War and Peace."
Captain Underpants & Professor Poopypants (: they've been around for a while, geesh.
I absolutely hated reading, until I found series that I loved and that grew with me. I think I started to actually enjoy reading around seven. Sweet Valley High led into Sweet Valley University and then I started picking up books my mom left around. She never really paid attention until I had a letter sent home for reading romance novels for SSR (sustained silent reading, 20 minutes a day everyday) in the 6th grade. I LOVED reading, it was never really appropriate but I skipped over the stuff that was too much for me. I had an adult reading level by the 5th grade and read purely for fun. Then again, at my school most girls had read a few Zane "novels" by the time we graduated 8th grade :-\ That stuff was truly inappropriate, but I loved Nora Roberts/Catherine Coulter. Even when learning isn't the goal, it's amazing what you learn just by reading. Random history facts and just odds and ends.
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Post by cael on Oct 8, 2014 19:11:15 GMT -5
My mother would not let me purchase a copy of Gone with the Wind when I was 14... because of her objections to the language in it.Not because of the rape scene? HA, yeah no. Use of the N word.... I just don't understand. It isn't like I didn't know what it meant and the history and all behind it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 19:26:49 GMT -5
There are some great graphic novels out there. Maus, Persepolis, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, A lot of movies come from graphic novels.
Ok, I do set limits on how much manga I personally will buy, but they are free to buy it for themselves. Mostly I buy any book they want outside that rule.
There are books 'for school' that I choose to have us read/listen to which might not be their first choice, but if anyone really doesn't get into it, we will change it up.
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Post by Malarky on Oct 8, 2014 19:58:57 GMT -5
There are some great graphic novels out there. Maus, Persepolis, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, A lot of movies come from graphic novels.
Ok, I do set limits on how much manga I personally will buy, but they are free to buy it for themselves. Mostly I buy any book they want outside that rule.
There are books 'for school' that I choose to have us read/listen to which might not be their first choice, but if anyone really doesn't get into it, we will change it up. I've seen V for Vendetta in movie form and some others (can't name them, DH tells me I haven't heard of them because of the format.) I'm not dissing them, I just find them uncomfortable and awkward to read, so I never introduced them to my kids. DH clearly never cared enough about comics either, since he never brought them into the equation. As for books they don't get, I've said, "It's always here, you can revisit it at any time." DD is the reason I have an account at Barnes and Noble. I have to hold her back from spending every penny she has on books.
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Post by teen persuasion on Oct 8, 2014 20:04:41 GMT -5
Have you ever seen the ad with the first time mother who is packing everything but the kitchen sink in the diaper bag, and forgets the baby? Fast forward to second kid: she grabs a hand full of cheerios off the table and a spare diaper and declares they are good to go. Yeah, it's kinda like that with standards and multi age kids.
I can only remember restricting DD1 and reading when she was maybe 13 and wanted to read one of my books with a rape scene. I paperclipped the section together and asked her not to read it; she knew about it, just didn't need the details.
Movies and tv are a bit different. While the majority of the kids were relatively young, we just didn't expose them to much mature or graphic stuff. Once the first ones got older, it was harder to restrict things for the younger ones, especially DS5 who is much younger than all the others. He has been exposed to things at a much earlier age, but we are still not allowing him to view certain things since he is only 9. But I realized how relaxed we've become with the others, when we were watching Game of Thrones with DS4 who is 16!
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Post by giramomma on Oct 8, 2014 20:27:25 GMT -5
Is Baby Bird interested in audio books? Can you have them as background noise?
I love to read, and reading to kids is one of my favorite things. So this is frustrating. As long as she grows out of it by 3 or 4, it'll be fine. I don't have a burning desire to read The Foot Book 83,509 times. I never read any Dr Seuss to my middle child. I was so burned out from reading them to DS that I refused. The littlest is very finicky with her books. She likes short sentences with colorful pages. Or Flap books. I thought I was going to poke my eyes out reading the same Spot and Maisy books over and over again. (We've exhausted our county library system's offerings.) She loves, loves loves the "How Do Dinosaurs .." series. It's been interesting to see each of the kids react to the same books.
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Post by JustLurkin on Oct 8, 2014 22:16:06 GMT -5
I had co-worker lamenting a book report her high-school son was assigned, no way would he touch a book let alone read it cover to cover. He was already border-line in the class and she was afraid this would push him into failing.
I sent him a Donald Goines book. She couldn't believe he not only read the book but asked if I had anymore, as time went on I ended up sending him my entire set.
When I mentioned it to a friend, his jaw literally dropped and he couldn't believe I sent *that kind* of book to a 16-year-old--very gritty inner-city book. Whatever gets a kid to read!
Glad to see *1* of Goines' books on Kindle, hopefully the others will make it as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 22:36:54 GMT -5
Damn, you're brave. We looked through my grandmothers room once. I found crotchless panties, a teddy thing, and lube. Traumatized! I never went through my mom's room because after that I truly understood that there are some things you can never unknow. I found the Playboy's under Mom's side of the mattress too. I'm not easily traumatized, never have been. Probably a good thing.... Kama Sutra and Playboys in bottom drawer of dad's bureau. Couple more Playboys in the basement. Had lots of fun throwing those out after he died so my sister wouldn't see them. I did NOT want to hear her mouth running. Dad was an English teacher before he went into Social Studies. He wasn't going to restrict my reading. He did wish he could restrict how much I read and when I read. That would be pretty much all the time and using a flashlight under the covers is a real pain in the ass. Parent-teacher nights were just so delightful. Of course, trips to the bookstore were also excellent bribery materials when I had to do something I didn't want to. National Historic sites bore the crap out of me but hey, if he's going to take me to the bookstore afterward, OK!!!!
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Oct 8, 2014 23:31:07 GMT -5
Yes, I censor it. Yes, I am one of "those" parents.
Yes, it applies to books and TV. My kids don't have access to computer unless they are doing their school work. They do play games on Ipad.
Right now it's not so bad bc they are still little so I have a lot of say.
We'll see what happens in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 5:30:06 GMT -5
Your kids are little Lena. I think that's different.
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 9, 2014 6:23:15 GMT -5
I liked watching the evolution of my children reading THE GIVER. Initially they thought it was a great idea and a great book. As they progressed into it, they saw more. Needless to say, some interesting and deep discussions about the book. Both the good and the evil and their thoughts on both. I still look at that book fondly because it made my children think, and think hard, about things.
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