The Liberal Assault on the NFL

[Virgil Showlion]

Sept 28, 2017 11:13:15 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Sept 28, 2017 10:07:43 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I'll read it if it doesn't mention Pres. Trump or the White House. If it's just an article about NFL ratings, I'll gladly take a look. Is this the case?

If not, my apologies, but the idealist in me abhors the thought of rewarding the NYT for stooping to Pres. Trump's level.

A bit lame of you since you were the one floating the idea the ratings were down.

Should at do a bit of research into your earlier claim.

I mentioned the figure because I'd seen it in a headline not five minutes before I popped into the thread, which happened to be full of people speculating on the topic at the time. It seemed like the helpful thing to do.

My apologies for giving the impression that I cared.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Sept 28, 2017 11:35:29 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Sept 28, 2017 11:13:15 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

A bit lame of you since you were the one floating the idea the ratings were down.

Should at do a bit of research into your earlier claim.

I mentioned the figure because I'd seen it in a headline not five minutes before I popped into the thread, which happened to be full of people speculating on the topic at the time. It seemed like the helpful thing to do.

My apologies for giving the impression that I cared.

Aren't we supposed to post sources for such claims?

To be helpful, better to refrain than post unverified or false claims.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

I'm puzzled by the calls for firing.

These are elite athletes, deemed superior to all other potentials for the teams. What overall effect on the sport to wholesale remove them?

[Virgil Showlion]

Sept 28, 2017 13:52:06 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Sept 28, 2017 11:35:29 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I mentioned the figure because I'd seen it in a headline not five minutes before I popped into the thread, which happened to be full of people speculating on the topic at the time. It seemed like the helpful thing to do.

My apologies for giving the impression that I cared.

Aren't we supposed to post sources for such claims?

To be helpful, better to refrain than post unverified or false claims.

It's not a false claim. Unless you consider the AP "fake news".

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Then do post your sources.

Tennesseer posted a source saying that ratings are up. You say you saw only a headline that they are down and didn't read the article, so, what is the story?

[Deleted]

Sept 28, 2017 13:56:52 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

I'm puzzled by the calls for firing.

These are elite athletes, deemed superior to all other potentials for the teams. What overall effect on the sport to wholesale remove them?

"The search for talent went everywhere, to grocery stores, bars and chewed-up semipro fields. One team, the Washington Redskins, picked up a quarterback on work furlough from prison. But most of the replacement players were young men in limbo, somewhere between college and whatever was supposed to come next."

www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=6642330

[Shooby]

 Since 70% of the NFL is black, just wondering if some of them are gonna step down so that Hispanics and Asians can be better represented?  Wait, oh what?  Oh yeah, doesn't apply to them my  bad.

[dondub]

The all Caucasian owners are not interested in anything other than a meritocracy.

[Virgil Showlion]

Sept 28, 2017 14:15:16 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Then do post your sources.

Tennesseer posted a source saying that ratings are up. You say you saw only a headline that they are down and didn't read the article, so, what is the story?

The words "the AP" in my previous post link to the article.

I know some themes on our board don't use special formatting for hyperlinks. My apologies if this is the case.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Sept 28, 2017 17:34:22 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Sept 28, 2017 14:15:16 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Then do post your sources.

Tennesseer posted a source saying that ratings are up. You say you saw only a headline that they are down and didn't read the article, so, what is the story?

The words "the AP" in my previous post link to the article.

I know some themes on our board don't use special formatting for hyperlinks. My apologies if this is the case.

Got it, thanks!

[justme]

Sept 28, 2017 14:15:33 GMT -5 @aj said:

Sept 28, 2017 13:56:52 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

I'm puzzled by the calls for firing.

These are elite athletes, deemed superior to all other potentials for the teams. What overall effect on the sport to wholesale remove them?

"The search for talent went everywhere, to grocery stores, bars and chewed-up semipro fields. One team, the Washington Redskins, picked up a quarterback on work furlough from prison. But most of the replacement players were young men in limbo, somewhere between college and whatever was supposed to come next."

www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=6642330

Don't forget Keanu reeves!

[verrip1]

Sports, formerly a welcome repast from the inane political stupidity of the age, has become yet another venue for fostering conflict in a world which needs entertainment free of the idiocy of political hatred. 

Good job, sports people, you've just become part of the problem and have created political acrimony from those who you depend upon, fans.

No good will come of this.  Particularly for those who don't want to be part of the pointlessness and self-destructive nature of completely idiotic political blame games.

[Deleted]

Sept 28, 2017 22:55:07 GMT -5 justme said:

Sept 28, 2017 14:15:33 GMT -5 @aj said:

"The search for talent went everywhere, to grocery stores, bars and chewed-up semipro fields. One team, the Washington Redskins, picked up a quarterback on work furlough from prison. But most of the replacement players were young men in limbo, somewhere between college and whatever was supposed to come next."

www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=6642330

Don't forget Keanu reeves!

That was an awesome movie!

[thyme4change]

Sept 28, 2017 23:32:52 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

Sports, formerly a welcome repast from the inane political stupidity of the age, has become yet another venue for fostering conflict in a world which needs entertainment free of the idiocy of political hatred. 

Good job, sports people, you've just become part of the problem and have created political acrimony from those who you depend upon, fans.

No good will come of this.  Particularly for those who don't want to be part of the pointlessness and self-destructive nature of completely idiotic political blame games.

Sports have always fostered hate. Maybe not politics, but the level of hatred inspired by "My team" vs. "Your team" has made a lot of people rich.

[tallguy]

Sept 28, 2017 23:32:52 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

Sports, formerly a welcome repast from the inane political stupidity of the age, has become yet another venue for fostering conflict in a world which needs entertainment free of the idiocy of political hatred. 

Good job, sports people, you've just become part of the problem and have created political acrimony from those who you depend upon, fans.

No good will come of this.  Particularly for those who don't want to be part of the pointlessness and self-destructive nature of completely idiotic political blame games.

Respite, maybe?  

And I would suggest that the idea that no good can come from this is likely only true for those who refuse to listen.  A statement from Richard Sherman:

"What I would like to see is that the inequality and divisiveness stop," Sherman said.  "I would like racism and bigotry to stop. If that stopped, the demonstrations can stop. My message to everyone out there is, 'Hey, stop the racism, bigotry and inequality, and there's nothing for these players to protest.'"
 
After the game, Seattle players preached a message of unity in explaining their decision, which Sherman said Wednesday has been "received positively, for the most part."  He added that there is a section of observers so entrenched in their own beliefs that a message of any kind would fall on deaf ears.  The Seahawks want to reach everyone else -- the ones who, as Sherman described them, are "accepting in our society, those people that are open and have open hearts and a good moral compass, I think they were received very well.""  At the end of the day you can't make everybody happy and we're not trying to," he said.  "We're just trying to help people become more aware of the issues that are out there, the injustice and inequality that's in the world, and I think we did that."

 

[Shooby]

Why dont they all run off to Canada and play in the CFL? Surprised i haven't heard that yet.

[Shooby]

Btw in which counties is it better? Which countries have achieved racial equality per your specifications?

[thyme4change]

Good point Shooby. Since racism occurs everywhere, we should just go back to Jim Crow laws. Fuck all the brown people.

[Deleted]

Good tried and true patriots in the NASCAR are down too, hmmm... 

awfulannouncing.com/ratings/foxfs1-ends-2017-nascar-season-yet-another-ratings-low.html

[Tennesseer]

I'll watch NASCAR races on TV when they race driverless cars by remote control.

[happyhoix]

I'll watch Nascar on TV when the cars are Vespas and the drivers are all well muscled young men in shorty shorts.  

Hey I may have just invented a new sport.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Sounds like there are some pretty urgent talks going on right now between the owners and executives.  It will be interesting to see how this all comes out. It appears some advertisers are weighing in - both pro and con.

[dondub]

Yes, Trump's conservative assault on the NFL is in full swing.

[steff]

Sept 29, 2017 9:05:21 GMT -5 oped said:

Good tried and true patriots in the NASCAR are down too, hmmm... 

awfulannouncing.com/ratings/foxfs1-ends-2017-nascar-season-yet-another-ratings-low.html

Nascar ratings have been tanking for years along with attendance.  Their old man fan base is dying off & it's not exciting enough for younger guys.  Tracks that added 10's of thousands of seats in the 90's are now taking them out because they can't fill them anymore.  Plus Fox's coverage has Darrell Waltrip.  He's so outdated, out of touch, and his stupid sayings are no longer entertaining.  There's been a lot of pushback to get rid of DW for years. 

Nascar on tv is also split between Fox Sports & NBC Sports.   So those rankings are only from February at Daytona to end of June.  NBC takes over at the Daytona 4th of July race thru end of season early November.  NBC's booth talking heads are much better than Fox's.

[Iggy aka IG]

Sept 29, 2017 14:51:37 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Sounds like there are some pretty urgent talks going on right now between the owners and executives.  It will be interesting to see how this all comes out. It appears some advertisers are weighing in - both pro and con.

DH just told me his company's owner, who never sends out email, sent one to the entire company earlier today.  They will be pulling their Broncos corporate sponsorship.

And, I've avoided this thread for 2 days, because I have a life, and I'm going to continue ignoring it.  Mostly because of the circular arguments, and usual Presidential hatred displayed here on the Political board.  However, I felt compelled to share this with you:  I had a client come in this morning who is a Veteran and father of a 13 year old.  When football Sunday came up in conversation, it was very upsetting for both of us.  Yes, I understand there are some Veteran's who don't care about the kneeling or any of this, don't consider it disrespectful, etc.  But there are those that do.  And passionately.

This whole thing sucks. 

[Green Eyed Lady]

Sept 29, 2017 15:40:11 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Sept 29, 2017 14:51:37 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Sounds like there are some pretty urgent talks going on right now between the owners and executives.  It will be interesting to see how this all comes out. It appears some advertisers are weighing in - both pro and con.

DH just told me his company's owner, who never sends out email, sent one to the entire company earlier today.  They will be pulling their Broncos corporate sponsorship.

And, I've avoided this thread for 2 days, because I have a life, and I'm going to continue ignoring it.  Mostly because of the circular arguments, and usual Presidential hatred displayed here on the Political board.  However, I felt compelled to share this with you:  I had a client come in this morning who is a Veteran and son of a 13 year old.  When football Sunday came up in conversation, it was very upsetting for both of us.  Yes, I understand there are some Veteran's who don't care about the kneeling or any of this, don't consider it disrespectful, etc.  But there are those that do.  And passionately.

This whole thing sucks. 

Totally agree.  You always see the spots on TV or articles with a Vet saying he/she has no problem with this protest as that is what they fought for - freedom.  That's all well and good and everyone is entitled to feel like they feel.  It's just that all vets don't share that opinion and they should get equal time.

[Deleted]

Maybe there aren't as many as you think...

[Deleted]

Sept 29, 2017 15:40:11 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Sept 29, 2017 14:51:37 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Sounds like there are some pretty urgent talks going on right now between the owners and executives.  It will be interesting to see how this all comes out. It appears some advertisers are weighing in - both pro and con.

DH just told me his company's owner, who never sends out email, sent one to the entire company earlier today.  They will be pulling their Broncos corporate sponsorship.

And, I've avoided this thread for 2 days, because I have a life, and I'm going to continue ignoring it.  Mostly because of the circular arguments, and usual Presidential hatred displayed here on the Political board.  However, I felt compelled to share this with you:  I had a client come in this morning who is a Veteran and son of a 13 year old.  When football Sunday came up in conversation, it was very upsetting for both of us.  Yes, I understand there are some Veteran's who don't care about the kneeling or any of this, don't consider it disrespectful, etc.  But there are those that do.  And passionately.

This whole thing sucks. 

Do hey care when nugent cuts it up and wears it? Or just when black boys don't show 'proper respect'? 

[Green Eyed Lady]

Sept 29, 2017 15:50:50 GMT -5 oped said:

Maybe there aren't as many as you think...

Aren't as many...what?

[Miss Tequila]

Sept 29, 2017 15:50:50 GMT -5 oped said:

Maybe there aren't as many as you think...

And maybe there are more than you think....