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Post by sheilaincali on Aug 21, 2014 15:53:03 GMT -5
Do it Do it Do it!!!!! (peer pressure is a real thing for adults too )
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 21, 2014 15:54:12 GMT -5
What floors me is that other family members pressure the "victim" of the abuse to play nice for the sake of the family. The abuser is never called out for being the asshole. What's with that
My guess would be that if you let someone stand up and not take the crap then you have to admit the abusive person is an asshole and you've been a human doormat for all these years. Nobody wants to think that they are part of the problem.
In other words "misery loves company".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 17:19:53 GMT -5
So my question for all of you who did severe contact with the drama queens/kings or the other kinds of abusers.....
Did you ever get back to talking terms? Yes .
How long did it take if you did? about 6 years
Did the situation improve? Did YOU have to do anything to improve the situation? Did the other person change and made some effort too? Yes, set boundaries. Yes, they had what I can only call an epiphany of some sort.
If you still have severed ties, do you regret it in any way, years after?
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 21, 2014 17:47:10 GMT -5
2. The Burden
Two monks were returning to the monastery in the evening. It had rained and there were puddles of water on the road sides. At one place a beautiful young woman was standing unable to walk accross because of a puddle of water. The elder of the two monks went up to a her lifted her and left her on the other side of the road, and continued his way to the monastery.
In the evening the younger monk came to the elder monk and said, “Sir, as monks, we cannot touch a woman ?”
The elder monk answered “yes, brother”.
Then the younger monk asks again, “but then Sir, how is that you lifted that woman on the roadside ?”
The elder monk smiled at him and told him ” I left her on the other side of the road, but you are still carrying her.”
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Aug 21, 2014 18:17:54 GMT -5
I am at the point of not talking to my mom anymore. I didn't talk to her for almost four years and only did it when I found out I was pregnant. It went ok for a while but when she is around she is very manipulative and tried to run my life. She remarried her ex husband about a year and a half ago (she cheated on him something like 15yrs ago) He took her back (stupidly ) and in the recent months she has been coming home to visit "family" but she has been seeing another guy. Mind you her husband has been very ill for a couple years and she treats him like shit. Her last visit was the last straw, she lied to me and treated DS very poorly and all she could think about was running to her boyfriends house the whole time. I hadn't talked to her since she left but I did call her on her birthday although she didn't bother to call me on mine. She is using my grandma for a month of medical leave and told her husband she is coming up to visit "family" for three weeks... She is coming up to get her boyfriend and they are going to Maine(my grandma tells me everything) When her husband found someone to watch their place for three weeks and told her he wanted to come up for vacation too, she completly lost her shit and yelled at him and told him when she comes home then he can come up for a visit If I were him I would kick her crazy ass out and file for divorce!!! Fucking bitch I don't want her toxic ass around my family anymore!
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Post by Plain Old Petunia on Aug 22, 2014 11:17:43 GMT -5
The vast majority of my extended family is highly dysfunctional. Alcohol and drug addictions are rampant. I don't interact with them, except that if I should see them at a funeral, I will say hello. So, there's never been an "I am done with you!" moment. We simply live our own lives.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 22, 2014 11:43:56 GMT -5
My g-dtr cut ties with me several months ago and cut ties with my DH last week.
When great g-dtr was born we decided we would open a 529 account for her. I emailed to g-dtr asking that she send the SS # to the financial person for this account. I got a phone call from her and she was shouting so loud that I had to hold the phone away from my ear just to understand what she was saying. I finally had to tell her that we would talk after she calmed down and hung up.
She started texting me saying she and her DH had decided to open a regular savings acct so their daughter could have the funds at age 18 for anything ...... car, backpacking across Europe, etc. And they wanted everyone in the family to contribute. I said no way. I'll pay for her education so she can pay her own way. ..... I knew nothing about their decision prior to this and she called me a liar.
About a week ago I emailed g-dtr asking about the brand of crib, car seat/stroller. And how things were surviving the use of a baby. She sent a text back while I was in the shower and DH answered her saying I was in the shower and would get back as soon as I could. She called DH a liar and said I didn't want to confront her.
Ties are cut for both of us. ......... Maybe someday but I'm not looking for it.
We hurt not seeing our g-g-baby but it's not our decision. Sorry this happened to you and your DH, sesfw. At best, the grand-daughter sounds like she's in deep need of counseling, and also, being unhappy because relatives aren't contributing to a "savings account" for baby sounds kind of like a scam to me. I think she and her husband will spend the money long before the baby reaches age 18. If someone set up a 529 account for my dd, I'd have been thrilled.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 22, 2014 12:07:04 GMT -5
I had five good friends a few years ago. Two, unfortunately, died of cancer.
One turned into kind of a nutjob who only calls me when she wants a job reference. I knew that she was desperate this summer because she'd been out of a job for almost a year after getting fired from the university for good cause. I have given her her last job reference, ever. It was a mercy on my part that I helped her. I didn't lie for her per se, but answered the questions that the billing company asked in a general, pleasant way. They barely got through them before they hung up and evidently called her to tell her she was hired. Now, it's up to her to make it at her job. NOT my problem.
One, a former supervisor, turned into a drug addict, and has a conviction for forging a prescription. The last I heard of her, she was addicted to crack cocaine. No friend of mine for the last 8 years.
The last one, my best friend of the bunch, stopped speaking to me or seeing me about two years ago. She's the one who won't come out of the house, and wants me to be her little online game-playing pal. I do not comply, since she's manipulating me and her other friends. She'll only see us if her husband is there, and he's an obnoxious braggart, so we don't really enjoy his company. I've tried to talk to her about it all, but she's still playing games. I've given up. It hurts a LOT !
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 22, 2014 12:12:35 GMT -5
I haven't cut any family members out of my life, but I've greatly reduced my contact with my sister, and take a cautious approach with my father. I love them both very much, but my sister needs a whipping girl, and always makes condescending remarks to me/us when she sees us. She's always been like that. I only see her on holidays anymore, roughly four times a year, or less. I enjoy my father when he's in a good mood, but when he's obsessing about how much money we have ( he wants to know, but I won't tell him ), and yells at me because we have "bad" investments and I don't know on 12/31/13 exactly how much our investments increased during the year, he's just a total pain in the ass. He still likes to have those "teaching moments " and is the world's biggest authority in succeeding in life ( which he did very well ), and I just don't like them. I'm almost 62, and I guess I've done okay, at least in some respects . I call him sometimes, and if things go well in our conversation, and if he's acting authoritative toward me, then I just get off the phone asap. He's a handful, for sure.
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Post by sesfw on Aug 22, 2014 13:44:56 GMT -5
I think she and her husband will spend the money long before the baby reaches age 18.
That is what we think also. G-dtr and her hubby are in their early 30s and he is a DPS officer. But neither of them have a financial brain and have made bad money decisions. I just hope the little one has better genes. LOL
They want the baby to get to Europe and have fun. I have a friend that in her junior year of college spent a semester in Vienna. And I have a cousin that spent a semester at sea in her junior college year. Both are on the pricey side and the 529 could help with that.
The baby will appreciate it more if she has to earn it.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 22, 2014 13:57:38 GMT -5
It's pretty appropriate and covers a number of situations
I've been tempted to make it my work signature more than once I believe Suglite is currently using it here in her siggy.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 23, 2014 0:44:05 GMT -5
This thread has helped me work through having to get rid of my former best friend who claims that she doesn't go out of her house, but yet, is all over facebook with family, etc. up at their cottage. Sorry, but as I messaged her, I just can' do it anymore, and I'm sure she's aware of how much hurt she's caused me by pretending to be housebound, and finding out that she really just didn't want to see me. I did wish her and her family well, but told her I was pulling the plug on the unfriendly "friendship." I had messaged her earlier today asking her what she felt the status of our friendship was, and, as usual, no answer was received. So, I just got rid of her. She's such a wonderful person in many ways, but turned into this weird-acting woman after knowing her for 20 years. It's dragged on for far too long, and she comments on my facebook page, while never seeing me, although we're both now retired, and live eight miles apart. I just think it's too odd and slimy, because she's been lying to me. I feel sooooo much better. Goodbye to a sad wreck of a friendship. I am tired of feeling hurt. I really wish I'd done this sooner.
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Post by sesfw on Aug 23, 2014 11:42:45 GMT -5
I feel sooooo much better. Goodbye to a sad wreck of a friendship. I am tired of feeling hurt. I really wish I'd done this sooner.
Mega hugs my friend
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 23, 2014 19:49:17 GMT -5
Thank you, guys. She's already apologized via facebook. She says she's got too many chronic conditions to do very much. It's very possible she wasn't talking to me about them, and I told her I would try to help her. She only goes out once a week, evidently. We'll see how it goes. The change, which was a major one, started two years ago. I'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 9:39:41 GMT -5
I severed ties with my mom a couple of years ago. Let's just say she was pretty abusive to my brothers and I growing up and pretty much everyone in the family bows to her will because it is the path of least resistance. I agree with other statements that family will pressure the victims to "sweep it under the rug" mine had me doing it for 15 years after I moved out. My breaking point came when she got my wife alone and told her how anything I said about my youth was a lie and that basically I'm a POS. So she's cut out, I may see her at a random family event but I just ignore her. I told my dad not to leave me in charge of her if he goes first because she will end up in a dog kennel. I wish I had severed ties years ago. Resurrecting a slightly older thread here but the impossible happened this past weekend, I reconciled with my mom. We had been in a state of Cold War for years, and I was going where they lived to see my brother who was visiting and she texted me saying it will be good to see me, I texted back saying unless she was ready to admit to and apologize for a lot from my youth I had no intention of seeing her. I was floored when she said she would. We ended up meeting, talking about the issues and she apologized, I honestly thought it would never happen, I'm talking Vegas wouldn't have even accepted bets on it with the odds so one sided. It think the lesson is anything can happen.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 17, 2014 9:57:14 GMT -5
Good for you and for her.
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Post by taz157 on Sept 17, 2014 9:59:57 GMT -5
Good for you and for her. Yeah that.
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Post by Abby Normal on Sept 17, 2014 10:03:11 GMT -5
We have basically cut out my SIL. She's always been extremely hard to deal with and you have to walk on egg shell so she doesn't explode. Dh and I both grew tired of her tantrums. But the final one was when we were at a restaurant for his grandmothers birthday. SIL went off on me for some perceived slight and started screaming at me in the parking lot. After trying to calm her down for 10 minutes (felt like forever) and doing my best not to react to her and explode myself- I finally looked at her and said " If you ever want to have any type of relationship in the future this conversation ends now". She tried to say something and I said " not another word. Seriously, it ends now". DH's whole family was watching. DH gave me credit for restraining myself. SIL tried to tell her mom that we ended our fight by agreeing to end the conversation to preserve our relationship.
We are still in a cold war. I'm polite at family functions but I try and have as little contact with her as possible. That was nearly 7 years ago.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Sept 17, 2014 10:04:51 GMT -5
I'm not actively trying to sever ties to any family members.
There are some extended family (aunts, uncles, cousins, ect) that I don't interact with simply because there's really no relationship there to begin with. I don't feel a need to contact them and they obviously feel no need to contact me. So nothing really lost there. But if they reached out to me I'd communicate with them.
I am a bit pissed off at an aunt who talked for years about having a family get together. When it finally happened, she basically left on day 3 of our 6 day trip and drove back home. The rest of us couldn't leave because our flights weren't for three more days. It was so incredibly rude that I couldn't believe she did that. I'm just glad it was during the government shutdown and I didn't end up wasting leave on the trip.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 17, 2014 10:19:14 GMT -5
Good for you and for her.
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Post by cael on Sept 17, 2014 10:42:15 GMT -5
We kind of are/have severed most ties with my MIL... she was a shitty parent, she's selfish, makes terrible life choices and blames anyone but herself for her problems. Whines that DH never calls her... I decided several years ago I'm done trying to coax him to call his mother or brother more. If he doesn't want to, he's a goddamned adult and can choose to have or not have relationships with people. The only thing his mother ever did for him probably is give birth to him, and (barely) keep him alive through adulthood. She wasn't abusive in the common sense, but neglectful, apathetic and uninvolved and selfish. I'd like to say she kept a roof over his head and fed him, but she barely did that at times. His older sister had much the same experiences, and his much younger half brother is a high school dropout deadbeat who will likely never do anything with his life and continue to mooch off his parents... DH has gotten over the guilt of leaving his brother when he moved out of his mom's (DH was the only person who tried at all with his brother), and now is sad about it but has kind of given up and moved on. Bro is 18 now and fully capable of deciding how he wants to live. DH for some reason was always his mother's golden child, so she's always tripping all over herself to see him when we visit, yet never calls her 4 grandsons who live two miles away from her and bitches that SIL never calls her. She has never once invited SIL and her kids over for dinner... but expects SIL to host her all the time. She whines DH doesn't do enough with his brother... dude, he's 18 now and DH has told him what he thinks of what he's done with his life, and BIL doesn't want to hear it. Nothing DH can do about it and it irritates him and he'd rather not deal with him. I've told him he has every right to feel that way. You should see him when he's on the phone with his mother - he paces around and just looks so uncomfortable... he just has no interest in dealing with it anymore.
Luckily they live 300 miles away! But we have to see them when we visit SIL and her family... we're only down there maybe twice a year.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Sept 17, 2014 10:55:55 GMT -5
I have not completely cut off a couple people in my family, but we have very limited contact. The first person is my Grandma. I love her, but I can't stand the constant criticism and arguing with me over stupid stuff. The assumption that I was abusing my child because he was throwing a fit while I was on the phone with her is something I'm not sure I can every forgive her for. I only call her for her birthday and otherwise I only see her when I am visiting my parents or my parents bring her for a visit. My DH's sister is on the verge of getting my Grandma's treatment. She treated my husband miserably last week after their brother's death. She has continued to act like she is the most important person effected by his death (no, that would be his DAUGHTER)! She yelled at their mom last year via an email for not visiting her and copied the brothers! (Part of the reason MIL did not want to visit was because of the BIL who died this year was living with her and she didn't trust him not to pawn all of her items and start drinking while she was gone. The other reason was that she was on some medication that made gave her tummy troubles and she didn't tell anyone. Yeah, who wants to fly cross country with that). SIL through a fit when the brothers started joking about her being "grandma" when her 16 year old DD was given a promise ring. (The daughter was not present for this exchange). But frankly the fact that she tried to donate the gifts we had given deceased BIL for being in our wedding to Goodwill even though they clearly state the date and the event and the fact that she stomped her foot and threw a fit when DH called her out on throwing out some of BIL's documents that he had already sorted and filed away has me at the end of my rope with her. She has no respect for my DH and never has. She acts like he never grew up and doesn't know what he is doing. I'm done with her. We will go out for her DD's graduation party this year, but we will not stay with her. We will only interact as necessary and we'll go have a good time on our own. I actually emailed my own sister today and told her thank you for treating me like an adult, understanding that I have my own life and opinions and for the fact she actually likes me. After BIL's death, DH and I decided we need to make sure we get our wills in order so that hopefully SIL won't be able to fuck up our stuff. I want to make sure she is no where on the list of taking care of our kids in the event something happens to us.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 17, 2014 20:29:41 GMT -5
My sister fully reconciled with our mother when our mom was laid out at the mortician's office.
They had never, ever gotten along and only when my mother developed Alzheimer's disease did she start treating my sister nicely. Likewise, my sister stopped disliking our mother once mom developed Alzheimer's disease.
They no longer saw each other as enemies. Mom saw my sister as a stranger who was very nice and helpful to her and my sister saw our mother as a human being in medical trouble who needed the patience of others, along with help and support.
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 18, 2014 13:53:21 GMT -5
Resurrecting a slightly older thread here but the impossible happened this past weekend, I reconciled with my mom. We had been in a state of Cold War for years, and I was going where they lived to see my brother who was visiting and she texted me saying it will be good to see me, I texted back saying unless she was ready to admit to and apologize for a lot from my youth I had no intention of seeing her. I was floored when she said she would. We ended up meeting, talking about the issues and she apologized, I honestly thought it would never happen, I'm talking Vegas wouldn't have even accepted bets on it with the odds so one sided. It think the lesson is anything can happen. That is amazing. I hope this is a good thing for you. Best wishes on this!
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Sept 18, 2014 20:06:43 GMT -5
I have very limited contact with my mother. At this point--two and half years in--I don't regret it but it does make me sad.
She is a dirty hoarder (as opposed to the OCD, organized collections kind), and I cannot bring myself to go into her home anymore. The stench alone is revolting. She has made many attempts at manipulation and passive-aggressive communication. I just won't give my energy to it anymore. She does sometimes show up for my kids' activities. Last month, she emaileda group email to my sisters and me asking questions about real estate. I did respond.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 19, 2014 7:51:15 GMT -5
I have not completely cut off a couple people in my family, but we have very limited contact. The first person is my Grandma. I love her, but I can't stand the constant criticism and arguing with me over stupid stuff. The assumption that I was abusing my child because he was throwing a fit while I was on the phone with her is something I'm not sure I can every forgive her for. I only call her for her birthday and otherwise I only see her when I am visiting my parents or my parents bring her for a visit. My DH's sister is on the verge of getting my Grandma's treatment. She treated my husband miserably last week after their brother's death. She has continued to act like she is the most important person effected by his death (no, that would be his DAUGHTER)! She yelled at their mom last year via an email for not visiting her and copied the brothers! (Part of the reason MIL did not want to visit was because of the BIL who died this year was living with her and she didn't trust him not to pawn all of her items and start drinking while she was gone. The other reason was that she was on some medication that made gave her tummy troubles and she didn't tell anyone. Yeah, who wants to fly cross country with that). SIL through a fit when the brothers started joking about her being "grandma" when her 16 year old DD was given a promise ring. (The daughter was not present for this exchange). But frankly the fact that she tried to donate the gifts we had given deceased BIL for being in our wedding to Goodwill even though they clearly state the date and the event and the fact that she stomped her foot and threw a fit when DH called her out on throwing out some of BIL's documents that he had already sorted and filed away has me at the end of my rope with her. She has no respect for my DH and never has. She acts like he never grew up and doesn't know what he is doing. I'm done with her. We will go out for her DD's graduation party this year, but we will not stay with her. We will only interact as necessary and we'll go have a good time on our own. I actually emailed my own sister today and told her thank you for treating me like an adult, understanding that I have my own life and opinions and for the fact she actually likes me. After BIL's death, DH and I decided we need to make sure we get our wills in order so that hopefully SIL won't be able to fuck up our stuff. I want to make sure she is no where on the list of taking care of our kids in the event something happens to us. Before my mom died and while my kids were still minors, I made sure by mentioning in my will, that no way in hell was my mom to have custody of my kids. I'd have rather them in foster care than with her. Plus, I made sure not a dime was to be gained by anyone who had custody other than what social security paid unless my money trustee agreed and he knew not to.
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Post by MN-Investor on Oct 23, 2014 9:56:07 GMT -5
Sigh. I miss my sister. I have five sisters and one brother. My sister, 15 months older than me, stopped talking to the family about 20 years ago. I've seen her once since then, but basically - clearly - she has some mental health issues. My sister is extremely smart and extremely stubborn, so she never sought the medical help that might have helped her. She's not part of her children and grandchildren's lives either. Her daughter, who lives in Chicago, would rather spend Christmas here in Minnesota with aunts, uncles, and cousins than fly home to NC. And there's nothing we can do. I guess I'm just glad my BIL has stayed with her. BIL, their son and son's family drove up here from NC last year to see my mom and BIL's relatives in Iowa. So at least we had that. But I do miss my sister. I remember writing this three months ago. Last night I got a call from my brother... This sister is coming to visit!!!Sister hurt her leg in August and it wasn't healing. She ended up going to the hospital and sort of freaked out. So now she is getting the psychiatric help she so desperately needs. My brother, who, like me, lives in Minnesota, is a psychiatrist. He was always close to this sister. Brother has been talking with Sister's psychiatrist and with Sister and BIL. The upshot is that Sister will fly to Minnesota on Friday. She'll stay for four weeks at my mom's house (Mom is in a nursing home, her house is used for visiting relatives). While here, she'll see my brother's partner and they'll figure out a routine for medication which will help her. Apparently my sister suffers from severe depression, mild OCD, and has an anxiety issue. Sister has had a terrible time sleeping for years, but my brother said he prescribed for her the same medication which was effective for my dad who had some of the same issues, and she actually had a good night sleep this week! Needless to say, I am thrilled. I hope this really helps Sister. She has three grandchildren. She's only see one of them, several years ago. This has the potential to make her life so much better.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 23, 2014 10:19:56 GMT -5
MN, I hate to hear that a medical issue brought this about, but at least you will see your sister as a result of it, and she will get help. Sometimes, it takes something like this to bring about a change in a person.
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Post by sesfw on Oct 23, 2014 10:55:47 GMT -5
MN ......... so glad for you and your family ...... a huge
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