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Post by marjar on Feb 27, 2011 9:47:51 GMT -5
WASHINGTON — Public health officials are warning travelers and workers present at four U.S. airports on two recent days that they may have been exposed to measles from a traveler arriving from London. Authorities said Saturday that a New Mexico woman later confirmed to have measles arrived at Washington Dulles International Airport late in the afternoon of Feb. 20. Two days later, the measles-infected traveler departed from BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport near Baltimore on an evening flight to Denver, Colorado, and then on to Albuquerque, New Mexico. The traveler became sick and was subsequently diagnosed with measles in New Mexico, said Tom Skinner, a spokesman for the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. He said Saturday night that authorities in those states are trying to notify travelers who sat close to the infected passenger on the flights. The New Mexico Department of Health's scientific laboratory division didn't identify the traveler by name but said she was a 27-year-old Santa Fe, New Mexico, woman who had not been immunized against measles. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41801131/ns/health/
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Post by workpublic on Feb 27, 2011 11:01:37 GMT -5
The New Mexico Department of Health's scientific laboratory division didn't identify the traveler by name but said she was a 27-year-old Santa Fe, New Mexico, woman who had not been immunized against measles.
and odds are here illegally or the child of an illegal hence the lack of info for the general public from the police and newspapers.
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Post by workpublic on Feb 27, 2011 11:19:50 GMT -5
Not at all. It is perfectly possible for a red, white and blue American
both our opinion. i'd like to see the actually odds of what i said and what you said. i'd think they point my way
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Post by marjar on Feb 27, 2011 11:47:43 GMT -5
Not at all. It is perfectly possible for a red, white and blue American whose ancestors fell off the Mayflower and tripped on Plymouth rock to have and spread measles. This is mere Xenophobia. Have your children vaccinated. I agree with vaccinations. This is just a ripple, but has the potential for a widespread impact.
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Post by marjar on Feb 27, 2011 11:51:09 GMT -5
The New Mexico Department of Health's scientific laboratory division didn't identify the traveler by name but said she was a 27-year-old Santa Fe, New Mexico, woman who had not been immunized against measles. and odds are here illegally or the child of an illegal hence the lack of info for the general public from the police and newspapers. Illegals can afford that many airline tickets? I think it is more than likely a PR measure and to avoid panic.
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Post by marjar on Feb 27, 2011 12:14:59 GMT -5
Sure, it only takes one. Besides, they are only "illegal" if they stay. Otherwise they are visitors, the same way you are when you go there. What is cogent to the discussion is vaccination and health status, not immigration status. Privacy laws may also be an issue.
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Post by marjar on Feb 27, 2011 12:32:52 GMT -5
One really does not have to know the name and address of the carrier. That is the realm of the Department of Health. We do not put people in stocks or hang scarlet letters on them any more and we do not need people with burning torches converging on the homes of the ill either. I agree.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 27, 2011 12:37:50 GMT -5
The name of the passenger wasn't released for reasons of privacy. HIPAA would prevent her name being released, I would think, since the Department of Health is a health-related agency. Jumping to conclusions can often end you in the mud. This one did.
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Post by Loopdilou on Feb 27, 2011 12:47:57 GMT -5
Probably part of the crazy "immunizations give you autism crowd".
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Post by swamp on Feb 27, 2011 12:53:33 GMT -5
The New Mexico Department of Health's scientific laboratory division didn't identify the traveler by name but said she was a 27-year-old Santa Fe, New Mexico, woman who had not been immunized against measles. and odds are here illegally or the child of an illegal hence the lack of info for the general public from the police and newspapers. All the unvaccinated people I know are the children of red white and blue Americans who either think that vaccines cause autism or hippy dippy trippies who think modern medicine is bunk.......
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 27, 2011 12:56:04 GMT -5
Measles Outbreak Triggered by Unvaccinated ChildCase illustrates that people who chose not to vaccinate put others at risk, researcher says MONDAY, March 22, 2010 (HealthDay News) -- What began as a family trip to Switzerland in 2008 ended up as a public health nightmare in California. The family's 7-year-old boy, who was intentionally unvaccinated against measles, was exposed to the virus while traveling in Europe. When he returned home to San Diego, he unknowingly exposed a total of 839 people, and an additional 11 unvaccinated children contracted the disease. Three of those infected were babies, too young to have yet received the measles vaccines, and one of the babies was hospitalized for three days with a 106-degree fever, according to a report to be published in the April issue of Pediatrics. "Measles is just a plane ride away, including places like Switzerland and the U.K.," said one of the researchers, Dr. Jane Seward, deputy director of viral diseases at the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The San Diego outbreak, which Seward said was quickly and aggressively contained by the public health department, cost about $177,000 to get under control. Those costs include direct medical charges, the cost of quarantining those exposed, plus the expense of state and county personnel involved in containing the outbreak. At the charter school that the 7-year-old with measles attended, 11 percent of the children were unvaccinated for measles. While state, or even county-level vaccination numbers may be high, pockets of areas exist where much higher numbers of children are unvaccinated, Barskey said. Parents who intentionally under-vaccinate tended to be white, college-educated and have an upper or middle-income level, the study found. Many believe that living a "natural lifestyle" will protect their children against vaccine-preventable illness, according to the study. More: health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/infectious-diseases/articles/2010/03/22/measles-outbreak-triggered-by-unvaccinated-child
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Post by swamp on Feb 27, 2011 13:02:41 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone has a viable civil suit here. Vaccination, after all, is required for school-age children. Vaccinations are required for children enrolled in public school, but they allow you to opt out for religious or medical reasons. Private school don't have the same requirements, nor does a home schooled child have to be vaccinated. I dont' think anyone has grounds for a suit. ETA: While I think everyone who is physically able to be vaccinated should be, and that you're an idiot if you don't vaccinate against the "big diseases" like measles, mumps, rubella, et al, I would be horrified if the government passed a law requiring it in every instance.
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Post by marjar on Feb 27, 2011 13:09:35 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/index.htmlFrom the article: In the United States, more cases of measles were reported in 2008 than in any other year since 1997, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than 90% of those infected had not been vaccinated or their vaccination status was unknown, the CDC reported.
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Post by marjar on Feb 27, 2011 13:27:18 GMT -5
The thing that freaks me out is hearing Pertussis is coming back. The last time I heard that name was when I passed the statue of Balto the dog that carried diptheria anti-toxin to Nome, Alaska. Today's triple vaccine has made it a thing of the past. My county had 233 cases of pertussis last year, according to our health department. The majority was in kids- 10 to 19 year group having the most cases, followed by the 5- 9 year old group.
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Feb 28, 2011 17:19:54 GMT -5
The one that scares me the most is smallpox, since most people born after 1970 aren't vaccinated.
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Post by marjar on Feb 28, 2011 17:43:29 GMT -5
I think there is some debate regarding how long the smallpox vaccination lasts. It may not provide lifetime immunity.
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Post by marjar on Feb 28, 2011 18:10:20 GMT -5
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Post by Angel! on Feb 28, 2011 18:37:30 GMT -5
I'm not so sure that the parents of the children too young to have gotten shots don't have a case. I would be furious if my infant got measles as a result of some other parent thinking they didn't need to vaccinate their kids. I don't believe we immunize against scarlet fever & it can be fairly easily treated with antibiotics. I remembering having it as a child & my parents were not the type to skip any vaccinations (had a flu shot every year since I was 2).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 20:01:11 GMT -5
I think we should do titers before vaccinations, but do think vaccines have their place. One thing we could do is not vaccinate so quickly and so many at onces... i mean, i never had Hep B till i was an adult... its not like we need to give days old infants Hep B vaccines... or 5-6 at one time...
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 28, 2011 20:03:56 GMT -5
I think we should do titers before vaccinations, but do think vaccines have their place. One thing we could do is not vaccinate so quickly and so many at onces... i mean, i never had Hep B till i was an adult... its not like we need to give days old infants Hep B vaccines... or 5-6 at one time... An office visit charge for each?
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Post by marjar on Feb 28, 2011 20:09:09 GMT -5
I think we should do titers before vaccinations, but do think vaccines have their place. One thing we could do is not vaccinate so quickly and so many at onces... i mean, i never had Hep B till i was an adult... its not like we need to give days old infants Hep B vaccines... or 5-6 at one time... Kid who are in preschool and daycare are more likely to be exposed to these viruses at an early age.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 20:11:52 GMT -5
Hep B? Not likely... If you were living with a person who had it.... ok... i'd see it...
I had my kids Hep A vaccinated before we went to Romania... it was on the "Reccomended" list, and they hadn't had a vaccination in awhile, and had handled them well... The A was only 2 shots, with in a few months... the B is 3 shots over... i think a year?
Yeah, i guess i'd rather pay for titer doctor visits, than over vaccinate a kid and have them end up on the spectrum...
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Post by marjar on Feb 28, 2011 20:22:36 GMT -5
Hep B? Not likely... If you were living with a person who had it.... ok... i'd see it... I had my kids Hep A vaccinated before we went to Romania... it was on the "Reccomended" list, and they hadn't had a vaccination in awhile, and had handled them well... The A was only 2 shots, with in a few months... the B is 3 shots over... i think a year? Yeah, i guess i'd rather pay for titer doctor visits, than over vaccinate a kid and have them end up on the spectrum... Hep B is not prevalent in children in this country, but transmission can occur during childbirth and people may have the virus and not realize it. A reason for good prenatal health care to minimize passing it to the newborn.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Feb 28, 2011 20:54:03 GMT -5
I was in the Denver Airport on Thursday and Saturday, in the very same concourse as the exposure happened. Luckily I have had my shots.
They can't give out the name of the person who had the disease because it would be a violation of HIPAA laws.
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Post by marjar on Mar 1, 2011 10:44:46 GMT -5
Doctors, in some parts of the country, are refusing to see patients who have not been vaccinated.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 1, 2011 11:30:17 GMT -5
I had a smallpox vaccinaton when I enrolled in college, had never had it. Not sure why. My dad was scared because some kids immunized against polio caught it so wouldn't let me have it. Can you imagine?? So when I got older I went and got it, but by then the vaccine they used was dead. Today my husband and I both got vaccinated for shingles, the cost was $219.99 each at Walgreens Take Care Clinic. His insurance is supposed to pay it all, we shall see. But I saw mom have it and she was in misery for more then a month. She had it on her back on her ribs all the way down and she could hardly breathe. I had to put salve on her every night for a long time. And a friend got it on her face and they were worried it might get in her eyes and cause blindness. Hubby said he probably didn't need it but we figure better safe then sorry. I've also been vaccinated for pneumonia and want him to get that too. We are 65 and as we age more prone, possibly, to getting things like that. Oh and the shingles vaccine is live virus so they don't want you sick when you get it. patstab, I also recently got the shingles immunization. My sister got shingles in her eye and suffered terribly. I was happy when my dr told me I could be immunized against it. Ins paid for part of it. I was vaccinated for smallpox as a kid (twice, I think). It was required to go overseas.
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Post by marjar on Mar 1, 2011 11:33:36 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 1, 2011 11:44:43 GMT -5
marjar Which one are you referring to? The vaccinatioin/autism one? Or the lead one about cancer?
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Post by jkapp on Mar 1, 2011 11:47:52 GMT -5
I guess the TSA agents were too busy looking for contemporary weapons that they missed this one??? Just goes to show you how useless all that security really is...
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Post by Angel! on Mar 1, 2011 11:57:42 GMT -5
I don't think so, at least not anymore. I thought part of the new health care is all well-baby visits & immunizations are covered 100%. I know I never pay anything for those.
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