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Post by Willing Sniper on Jun 18, 2014 14:59:58 GMT -5
I guess nothing given her disinterest. Change can be influenced
But not forced. At least if one wants to stay happily married in an adult-to-adult relationship.
IMHO most people have at least *some* level of resentment at having things forced upon them.
No one said forced. I said influenced.
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Post by greeniis10 on Jun 18, 2014 15:00:41 GMT -5
Sorry, do you know me?? Seems personal. Maybe I'm missing something... Anyway, yep, if/when DH dies I'll get life insurance, the house to myself (glorious peace!) and can sell his car and get me a big(ger) ass truck! Win-win! I guess I do know you after all Ummm, what You do know this is just sarcastic silliness, right? I don't take things very seriously around here. Care to explain?
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jun 18, 2014 15:00:59 GMT -5
Except for the kale part, that sounds yummy! You don't taste the kale - - that's the whole point! You "get in" your nutrition without the pain of bad taste. I don't like kale, how's about spinach instead? I keep hearing you can't taste it, I keep not believing it.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 18, 2014 15:02:40 GMT -5
You can't influence people who don't want to change. The only reason my DH has changed is his doctor said either get your cholesterol down or you're going to have to go on meds and potentially be dead by 50.
Even then it's been a huge struggle to get him to actually commit.
Meanwhile for 6 years I've been telling him how bad Red Bulls are for his health and how I don't want him drinking them. I've even pulled the "don't you want to be here to see your daughter's wedding" card but he would shrug his shoulders and tell me he's "hooked" on them and besides the first ingredient in Red Bull is water.
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Post by kittensaver on Jun 18, 2014 15:04:50 GMT -5
You don't taste the kale - - that's the whole point! You "get in" your nutrition without the pain of bad taste. I don't like kale, how's about spinach instead? I keep hearing you can't taste it, I keep not believing it. Try them both! (separate times). What's the worst that could happen? You hate it and you never make it again. Worth at least a try - IMHO.
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Post by kittensaver on Jun 18, 2014 15:06:10 GMT -5
But not forced. At least if one wants to stay happily married in an adult-to-adult relationship.
IMHO most people have at least *some* level of resentment at having things forced upon them.
No one said forced. I said influenced.
And I said "BUT not forced."
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jun 18, 2014 15:06:14 GMT -5
I don't like kale, how's about spinach instead? I keep hearing you can't taste it, I keep not believing it. Try them both! (separate times). What's the worst that could happen? You hate it and you never make it again. Worth at least a try - IMHO. The worst, to me, would be spending grocery money on something I hate. One of these days I'll give it whirl. I have frozen spinach, I guess that'll work.
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Post by Willing Sniper on Jun 18, 2014 15:07:34 GMT -5
You can't influence people who don't want to change. The only reason my DH has changed is his doctor said either get your cholesterol down or you're going to have to go on meds and potentially be dead by 50. Even then it's been a huge struggle to get him to actually commit. Meanwhile for 6 years I've been telling him how bad Red Bulls are for his health and how I don't want him drinking them. I've even pulled the "don't you want to be here to see your daughter's wedding" card but he would shrug his shoulders and tell me he's "hooked" on them and besides the first ingredient in Red Bull is water. Men are so stupid when it comes to their health. Red Bull is seriously bad for you. Meat not so much really. If eaten in the proper portion sizes, and with a full vegetable compliment.
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Post by Willing Sniper on Jun 18, 2014 15:08:23 GMT -5
You can't influence people who don't want to change. The only reason my DH has changed is his doctor said either get your cholesterol down or you're going to have to go on meds and potentially be dead by 50. Even then it's been a huge struggle to get him to actually commit. Meanwhile for 6 years I've been telling him how bad Red Bulls are for his health and how I don't want him drinking them. I've even pulled the "don't you want to be here to see your daughter's wedding" card but he would shrug his shoulders and tell me he's "hooked" on them and besides the first ingredient in Red Bull is water. Sure you can, ask any salesman
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Post by justme on Jun 18, 2014 15:09:44 GMT -5
Ha, there are several things that I couldn't ever be influenced to eat. Tried once or twice, never again. I'd rather go hungry or, more likely, go buy want I want to eat since I'm an adult.
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Post by lexxy703 on Jun 18, 2014 15:10:47 GMT -5
You really can't MAKE people change. You can force them to cooperate which turns you into the parent and them into a child, which isn't good for a marriage. No grown adult is going to appreciate a spouse trying to monitor everything they put into their mouths. You do what you can. I cook dinner at home to mitigate whatever my husband might consume when at work. I don't buy junk food type things and keep them in the house for easy access. I am not going to spend the hours of 8-4:30(which should be spent doing MY job) trying to monitor/nag him about his diet outside of the house. I have to have faith he'll do the "right" thing and if he doesn't he's 40 years old, he doesn't need me to bitch at him for his decisions. He already knows. My Mom tried to make my dad eat healthier their entire marriage. When she stopped buying junk food after we moved out he'd just stop at 7-11 on his way home from work & pick up chips & soda. He found out he could go buy a couple of pounds of cashews in the bulk food section of the grocery store. It became a battle. Finally she said if you want to eat your way into an early grave fine I give up.
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Post by kittensaver on Jun 18, 2014 15:11:37 GMT -5
Try them both! (separate times). What's the worst that could happen? You hate it and you never make it again. Worth at least a try - IMHO. The worst, to me, would be spending grocery money on something I hate. One of these days I'll give it whirl. I have frozen spinach, I guess that'll work. Start easy. Add just a little. No need for adding the whole box at one time!
You can always "up" the amounts slowly in subsequent smoothies until you find your tolerance level.
Do you like popsicles? Try this one!
1 small pineapple, peeled, cored and cut into chunks 2-3 small bananas 1 bag pre-washed fresh spinach
Whirl these together in a high-speed blender until completely smooth. Pour into popsicle molds and freeze.
This was one of the first things I tried on the girls when changing the family diet and they LOVED them. They couldn't taste the spinach at all. We called them "green goblin pops" and I let them have as many a day as they wanted during the summer. No sugar, all healthy nutritious ingredients, no harm, no foul.
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Post by Willing Sniper on Jun 18, 2014 15:13:09 GMT -5
You really can't MAKE people change. You can force them to cooperate which turns you into the parent and them into a child, which isn't good for a marriage. No grown adult is going to appreciate a spouse trying to monitor everything they put into their mouths. You do what you can. I cook dinner at home to mitigate whatever my husband might consume when at work. I don't buy junk food type things and keep them in the house for easy access. I am not going to spend the hours of 8-4:30(which should be spent doing MY job) trying to monitor/nag him about his diet outside of the house. I have to have faith he'll do the "right" thing and if he doesn't he's 40 years old, he doesn't need me to bitch at him for his decisions. He already knows. My Mom tried to make my dad eat healthier their entire marriage. When she stopped buying junk food after we moved out he'd just stop at 7-11 on his way home from work & pick up chips & soda. He found out he could go buy a couple of pounds of cashews in the bulk food section of the grocery store. It became a battle. Finally she said if you want to eat your way into an early grave fine I give up. Hey I know you.
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Post by movingforward on Jun 18, 2014 15:13:56 GMT -5
I do believe we talk about food more than money on YM. I still LOL about the debate over white rice. That one went on forever and then popped up on another thread - classic... I have actually never seen so much passion in regards to white rice.
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Post by lexxy703 on Jun 18, 2014 15:13:55 GMT -5
No water added to the popsicles Kitten?
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Post by lexxy703 on Jun 18, 2014 15:14:45 GMT -5
My Mom tried to make my dad eat healthier their entire marriage. When she stopped buying junk food after we moved out he'd just stop at 7-11 on his way home from work & pick up chips & soda. He found out he could go buy a couple of pounds of cashews in the bulk food section of the grocery store. It became a battle. Finally she said if you want to eat your way into an early grave fine I give up. Hey I know you. Yeah I'd recognize those abs anywhere
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jun 18, 2014 15:14:46 GMT -5
The worst, to me, would be spending grocery money on something I hate. One of these days I'll give it whirl. I have frozen spinach, I guess that'll work. Start easy. Add just a little. No need for adding the whole box at one time!
You can always "up" the amounts slowly in subsequent smoothies until you find your tolerance level.
Do you like popsicles? Try this one!
1 small pineapple, peeled, cored and cut into chunks 2-3 small bananas 1 bag pre-washed spinach
Whirl these together in a high-speed blender until completely smooth. Pour into popsicle molds and freeze.
This was one of the first things I tried on the girls when changing the family diet and they LOVED them. They couldn't taste the spinach at all. We called them "green goblin pops" and I let them have as many a day as they wanted during the summer. No sugar, all healthy nutritious ingredients, no harm, no foul.
No worries, I wasn't adding the whole bag (in this case) of spinach at once, I'm not entirely crazy. That sounds good. I like putting bananas in my smoothies when I make them, but I may have gotten rid of the popsicle molds this past weekend when I cleared a bunch of clutter out of my kitchen.
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Post by kittensaver on Jun 18, 2014 15:15:24 GMT -5
No water added to the popsicles Kitten? Nope. That's what a Vitamix is for - to pulverize everything smooth without the need to dilute the ingredients with water (LOL on the spillover from other threads! )
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Post by movingforward on Jun 18, 2014 15:16:22 GMT -5
Aren't bananas bad for some reason - come on... there is SOMETHING wrong with bananas - too much sugar?
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jun 18, 2014 15:17:37 GMT -5
No water added to the popsicles Kitten? Nope. That's what a Vitamix is for - to pulverize everything smooth without the need to dilute the ingredients with water (LOL on the spillover from other threads! ) So, what you're telling me is, that if I have a cheap old blender, I need a little water?
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Post by kittensaver on Jun 18, 2014 15:18:22 GMT -5
Start easy. Add just a little. No need for adding the whole box at one time!
You can always "up" the amounts slowly in subsequent smoothies until you find your tolerance level.
Do you like popsicles? Try this one!
1 small pineapple, peeled, cored and cut into chunks 2-3 small bananas 1 bag pre-washed spinach
Whirl these together in a high-speed blender until completely smooth. Pour into popsicle molds and freeze.
This was one of the first things I tried on the girls when changing the family diet and they LOVED them. They couldn't taste the spinach at all. We called them "green goblin pops" and I let them have as many a day as they wanted during the summer. No sugar, all healthy nutritious ingredients, no harm, no foul.
No worries, I wasn't adding the whole bag (in this case) of spinach at once, I'm not entirely crazy. That sounds good. I like putting bananas in my smoothies when I make them, but I may have gotten rid of the popsicle molds this past weekend when I cleared a bunch of clutter out of my kitchen. Time to treat yourself to a new, adult version! This one is my favorite:
www.amazon.com/Progressive-International-PLP-1-Freezer-Maker/dp/B0000CF7H6/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1403122599&sr=1-1&keywords=progressive+popsicle+molds
It makes the large flat, "plank" style pops.
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Post by kittensaver on Jun 18, 2014 15:18:58 GMT -5
Nope. That's what a Vitamix is for - to pulverize everything smooth without the need to dilute the ingredients with water (LOL on the spillover from other threads! ) So, what you're telling me is, that if I have a cheap old blender, I need a little water? Maybe! Depends on your blender and how hard you can push it without burning out the motor or jamming the blades.
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Post by sheilaincali on Jun 18, 2014 15:18:58 GMT -5
I should clarify. We had a long sit down discussion and I laid it out for them and asked them to support me. Because DH and DS love me they happily support me and don't complain. They knew that I had been struggling for years with my weight. After a time they both started feeling better with the diet changes. 8 months in and it's still working good.
DS is 16- I realize that when he is with his friends he is going to eat pizza if they order pizza. He is going to have a can of pop if they have a case sitting on the table during practice. When their History Club advisor brings donuts to the morning meeting DS might have one. I accept that. But the other meals he eats with us will be healthy and he knows this.
My family is overweight (parents and siblings) DH and DS at the time could have stood to lose 10 - 15 lbs. DS unfortunately seems to be taking after my family body wise. I'm doing my best to teach him healthy options and to make good decisions now so that he doesn't balloon to 420 lbs like my brother did.
To do this- I don't buy junk food. I don't buy crackers, chips, cookies, soda, etc. If DS wants a snack he has carrot or raw broccoli. We slice up cucumbers, celery, and keep them in the fridge for him to snack on. I've noticed when we do go out to eat he is making better choices without my dictating what he can eat. He started getting a side salad every day with his lunch at school. It's the little choices that are hopefully starting to click with him.
In two years he is going to leave out to go to college. I want him to have a couple of years of healthy eating behind him so he can recognize the good choices. He now prefers homemade rutabaga fries to store bought French fries. He likes mashed cauliflower over mashed potatoes. He thinks riced cauliflower tastes as good as regular rice.
NO I don't follow them around and tell them what they can and can't eat. I make dinner so they eat what I make. I buy the groceries so they eat what I buy. Frankly when I went to DH and DS and asked them to support me if they would have refused or resisted I would have questioned my marriage and my parenting skills. At no point have they told me they hate the new meal plan. At no point have they bitched or complained or resisted what I buy/make for them to eat. The way I see it = In my case it was a matter of respect. I asked them and laid out my reasons. We discussed it as a family and they offered to support me with whatever I needed to do.
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Post by kittensaver on Jun 18, 2014 15:20:15 GMT -5
Aren't bananas bad for some reason - come on... there is SOMETHING wrong with bananas - too much sugar? LOL! Come on, folks - - let's find a way to trash a whole, natural food!
ETA: while simultaneously espousing our love of chemically laden frankenfoods and frankendrinks
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Post by Willing Sniper on Jun 18, 2014 15:21:17 GMT -5
Yeah I'd recognize those abs anywhere Awww Lexx, I love you too.
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Post by imawino on Jun 18, 2014 15:22:42 GMT -5
Aren't bananas bad for some reason - come on... there is SOMETHING wrong with bananas - too much sugar? They are sugar in a peel!
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Post by movingforward on Jun 18, 2014 15:23:44 GMT -5
sheila - that is all very reasonable and your family is being very supportive. Also, on your weight loss. Way to go!
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jun 18, 2014 15:24:15 GMT -5
So, what you're telling me is, that if I have a cheap old blender, I need a little water? Maybe! Depends on your blender and how hard you can push it without burning out the motor or jamming the blades. It doesn't like whole frozen strawberries or ice cubes made in trays in the freezer. It's weak.
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Post by kittensaver on Jun 18, 2014 15:27:26 GMT -5
Maybe! Depends on your blender and how hard you can push it without burning out the motor or jamming the blades. It doesn't like whole frozen strawberries or ice cubes made in trays in the freezer. It's weak.
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Post by Willing Sniper on Jun 18, 2014 15:28:24 GMT -5
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