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Post by tloonya on Jun 12, 2014 13:01:56 GMT -5
He did not want to give ex his money! So instead he gave his daughter everything. Working out real well isn't it? In 20+ years he could have recovered just fine from the divorce. He's not going to recover so nicely at 70 and facing eviction. But who could had thought? He was mad abandoned man. He didn't think straight.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Jun 12, 2014 13:03:40 GMT -5
He did not want to give ex his money! So instead he gave his daughter everything. Working out real well isn't it? In 20+ years he could have recovered just fine from the divorce. He's not going to recover so nicely at 70 and facing eviction. But who could had thought? He was mad abandoned man. He didn't think straight. He had decades to fix the divorce situation, as I recall.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 12, 2014 13:06:01 GMT -5
He did not want to give ex his money! So instead he gave his daughter everything. Working out real well isn't it? In 20+ years he could have recovered just fine from the divorce. He's not going to recover so nicely at 70 and facing eviction. But who could had thought? He was mad abandoned man. He didn't think straight. He had years to fix this problem. Years to get over being mad and feeling abandoned. I'm assuming that this daughter is a child that he had with his wife? Did it dawn on him that maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 13:07:32 GMT -5
He did not want to give ex his money! So instead he gave his daughter everything. Working out real well isn't it? In 20+ years he could have recovered just fine from the divorce. He's not going to recover so nicely at 70 and facing eviction. But who could had thought? He was mad abandoned man. He didn't think straight. Now weren't we just talking about this in nutty's thread? This is why you set the anger aside and move on. Most of the time you just end up screwing yourself over when you're focused on hurting someone else..
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 12, 2014 13:08:06 GMT -5
But who could had thought? He was mad abandoned man. He didn't think straight
Uh huh. When you do things like transfer ownership of a house the daughter can't just say "Hey my dad wants me to have the house" and they say "Okay, put your name on the deed please".
There are MULTIPLE steps at every turn to make sure all parties understand what they are signing. It says on the bottom of every contract that by signing this you understand and agree to what's going on.
At any time he could have stopped and refused to sign anything. Instead he wanted to stick it to his ex bad enough he was willing to sign anything put in front of his face.
And if he didn't at the time because he was a "mad abandoned man" he's had 20+ years since then to cool down, think and reverse the decision. But he's the one that chose not to take it to court and get his house back.
Now it's biting him in the butt. Could he have predicted at 70 his daughter would evict today? No, but he should have had a lot clearer understanding of what the legal ramifications are of signing his house over.
There is a lot of risk that comes with that and you shouldn't do it while in the throes of being a spiteful ex husband. The fact he decided to do all this and not bother to ever look into it again after 20 years is not the daughter's problem
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Post by mollyanna58 on Jun 12, 2014 13:08:57 GMT -5
What. Divorce? From. Whom? That ex has nothing to do with anything anymore. But she's not an ex, is she? He's still legally married to her, and she probably has rights to some of his assets. Once the eviction is over, he needs to take care of getting a divorce. Oooh..maybe the not-ex could sue the daughter for taking not-ex's property.
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Post by Opti on Jun 12, 2014 13:09:25 GMT -5
And people can take advantage of your blind spot. He had time enough to think about getting Looney's Mom in his life. The daughter had enough time to get Dad's house it seems.
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Post by tloonya on Jun 12, 2014 13:09:42 GMT -5
I want to point out that this thread original question was about 'how eviction process goes'...because lawyer told us that to evict someone in Philadelphia area is 'good luck schmuck' deal for the landlord. And she is not even a landlord of his because there is no rent papers/agreement and she can't be a landlord because she is not having a landlord license.
Why are we talking about all we talked before - beyond my understanding.
So I will lock the thread if we are not going to talk about original question, ok? I am asking about eviction process.
If locksmith opens the lock and door has metal bars that hold it from being open...then what?
Will they brake the windows? Then will they physically grab older people and drag them out on the street?
(bars are actually getting installed as I write this)...
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Jun 12, 2014 13:11:03 GMT -5
If someone is just living in your house with no rental agreement, and you tell them to leave, aren't they trespassers that can be removed at any point?
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Post by mollyanna58 on Jun 12, 2014 13:11:56 GMT -5
(bars are actually getting installed as I write this)... Oh, for heaven's sake.
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Post by justme on Jun 12, 2014 13:12:22 GMT -5
But who could had thought? He was mad abandoned man. He didn't think straight. He had years to fix this problem. Years to get over being mad and feeling abandoned. I'm assuming that this daughter is a child that he had with his wife? Did it dawn on him that maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree? She said the daughter was from the wife before this one. Which makes it even crazier since he had divorced before.
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Post by Opti on Jun 12, 2014 13:13:27 GMT -5
Looney not just landlords evict people. It happens as well to former homeowners whose homes are sold to someone else.
Owners can evict people who are living there without their agreement. A lawyer needs to look at the deed and the letters. Since it isn't a tenant rental thing it might go much quicker.
FWIW.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 12, 2014 13:13:36 GMT -5
And she is not even a landlord of his because there is no rent papers/agreement and she can't be a landlord because she is not having a landlord license
She owns the house. Since she owns the house she has every right to kick the people who live there out of it. Your mother's boyfriend doesn't have any right to it at all, his name isn't on the deed anymore.
Which is again why you don't blindly sign over ownership of your home.
She has to follow eviction procedure because your mother/her father probably do have some tenet rights considering how long they have lived in the home.
That's why you don't want to let a roommate situation get too far along because you may find yourself in a situation where they have tenet rights and then you're going to have to follow the law as if you were their landlord.
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Post by tloonya on Jun 12, 2014 13:13:57 GMT -5
But who could had thought? He was mad abandoned man. He didn't think straight. He had decades to fix the divorce situation, as I recall. Why are you saying decades? They lived for years because getting citizenship is not a quick process. I say about 8 years...at least. After she left him he found my Mom. What decades
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Post by mollyanna58 on Jun 12, 2014 13:14:18 GMT -5
If the daughter is not giving her father access to his money, who is paying for the bars on the windows?
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Post by tloonya on Jun 12, 2014 13:15:40 GMT -5
(bars are actually getting installed as I write this)... Oh, for heaven's sake. I am that serious. BF is a real man man.
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Post by Opti on Jun 12, 2014 13:16:45 GMT -5
So they want to plan getting shot or other drama?
If he no longer legally owns the home, the daughter can get the legal right to remove him. Do they have a plan that they never leave and never get anything delivered?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 13:16:58 GMT -5
(bars are actually getting installed as I write this)... Are you kidding? WTF?
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Post by Opti on Jun 12, 2014 13:17:34 GMT -5
I am that serious. BF is a real man man. Or an idiot man man.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 13:17:38 GMT -5
It's going to be another Waco massacre.
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Post by justme on Jun 12, 2014 13:23:18 GMT -5
If the daughter is not giving her father access to his money, who is paying for the bars on the windows? Oooh, good question. Since it's her house they would become her bars. I'd call the company and have them unlock it or hire someone to cut them.
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Post by Opti on Jun 12, 2014 13:31:04 GMT -5
I wish Swamp or MidJD would post on this thread. There are probably fines and various laws that could be broken if someone doesn't leave a no longer owned property when requested.
I hope Looney moves her Mom in less than 10 days.
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Post by bean29 on Jun 12, 2014 13:34:51 GMT -5
Loony, the daughter isn't being a bitch by sending it to them in English. ALL court proceedings (which is what an eviction and those other documents are) are in English. Not sure about that, the tenants we just sent an eviction notice to, there was an eviction form that I could choose that was in english and spanish. Since they speak limited english, I sent the bilingual form. When we were in court, if you ask for a translator they will reschedule your court date so that they can have a translator available. I am pretty sure if you don't move your stuff out of the house they can impound it and hold it for repayment of rent. If the sheriff's dept moves it and stores it, you will have to pay the fees for that in additon to the costs of moving it from impound to wherever you are moving it. If Mom's BF refuses to move his stuff, move all Mom's personal stuff to a safe place. If the court date has not occured, show up in court and explan your case. Here they ask if you have a place to go, if you say no, they usually give you a few additional weeks to move out. They will buy even more time, by showing up in court, asking for a translator and getting the court date rescheduled.
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Post by tloonya on Jun 12, 2014 13:35:58 GMT -5
If the daughter is not giving her father access to his money, who is paying for the bars on the windows? NO! She was stripped of POA rights so right after she started this mess...
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Post by justme on Jun 12, 2014 13:37:56 GMT -5
Loony, the daughter isn't being a bitch by sending it to them in English. ALL court proceedings (which is what an eviction and those other documents are) are in English. Not sure about that, the tenants we just sent an eviction notice to, there was an eviction form that I could choose that was in english and spanish. Since they speak limited english, I sent the bilingual form. When we were in court, if you ask for a translator they will reschedule your court date so that they can have a translator available. I am pretty sure if you don't move your stuff out of the house they can impound it and hold it for repayment of rent. If the sheriff's dept moves it and stores it, you will have to pay the fees for that in additon to the costs of moving it from impound to wherever you are moving it. If Mom's BF refuses to move his stuff, move all Mom's personal stuff to a safe place. If the court date has not occured, show up in court and explan your case. Here they ask if you have a place to go, if you say no, they usually give you a few additional weeks to move out. They will buy even more time, by showing up in court, asking for a translator and getting the court date rescheduled. Interesting. I'm in Florida and I've never dealt with anything in Spanish - though I did have to schedule translators. It makes sense with Spanish because there's so many that speak it here, was it just Spanish as an option? I'm pretty sure that's not the language Loony's family speaks.
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Post by tloonya on Jun 12, 2014 13:38:29 GMT -5
(bars are actually getting installed as I write this)... Are you kidding? WTF? This is why I want to ask how the removal goes because I do not want them to be scratched out of the house by piece. Get it now?
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Post by justme on Jun 12, 2014 13:47:00 GMT -5
If they refuse to leave the premise by the time the court orders and when the sheriffs show up they will physically, and if necessary forcefully, remove the evicted people from the premise. Sites I googled even mentioned various forms where the owner gives the sheriffs permission to break the doors down and such things if the tenants changed the locks or something like that.
So yes, if the refuse/resist the eviction it seems they will be removed just like if they were resisting arrest.
ETA: And most likely arrested since violating a court order is against the law. Kind of like how in some states parents can be locked up for refusing to pay childsupport that the court ordered.
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Post by bean29 on Jun 12, 2014 13:50:31 GMT -5
My eviction (small claims action) was not filed in Milwaukee County, but just for curiosity sake I went to Milwaukee County Clerk of Circuit Court.
So you can get info on small claims, it asks if you wish to file a small claims action or if someone filed a small claims action...then gives you info.
Looney. Your Mother Needs to be Represented by a Lawyer.
I advise you to find out if there is a county web site where you can get info and see what you can find out.
Seems like your Mom's BF lost his case already.
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Post by mcsangel2 on Jun 12, 2014 13:53:21 GMT -5
Looney, you are making things worse for them by not taking this seriously. Read post #46 again. They need to hire a lawyer and a REAL interpreter. Ten days is going to go by pretty fast.
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Post by souldoubt on Jun 12, 2014 13:58:14 GMT -5
It's going to be another Waco massacre. Except instead of bullets old produce will be thrown from inside the house at approaching deputies.
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