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Post by CarolinaKat on May 14, 2014 8:30:06 GMT -5
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 14, 2014 8:33:40 GMT -5
For that statement alone, I'd make sure that what he said would be the last thing he ever said. Yes, it's a free country and even idiots have the right to be wrong. But there are boundaries. He crossed one, and now he'd be fair game to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 8:43:02 GMT -5
How awful. This reminds me of the idiots who go around saying that the Holocaust never happened.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 8:44:22 GMT -5
My ex-MIL is in the camp that doesn't believe this happened. Completely baffles my mind.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 14, 2014 8:45:00 GMT -5
WTF is wrong with some people?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 8:45:51 GMT -5
My ex-MIL is in the camp that doesn't believe this happened. Completely baffles my mind. The Holocaust or the shooting?
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Post by busymom on May 14, 2014 8:52:29 GMT -5
God Bless all of the people who've lost family members to senseless violence. And to the people who don't believe that horrible things happen, they'd better pray something similar doesn't happen in their family. Must be nice living in a fantasy land. Idiots!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 14, 2014 9:03:05 GMT -5
There are always going to be conspiracy theorists under every rock. Unfortunately the internet has given them a way to reinforce each other and spread their idiocy farther than dreamed possible.
I should really invest in Reynold's.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on May 14, 2014 9:11:46 GMT -5
How awful. This reminds me of the idiots who go around saying that the Holocaust never happened. Was it Huffington Post ran an article recently saying 46% of those polled didn't believe the Holocaust was real. What the hell are they teaching in history classes?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 9:20:54 GMT -5
My ex-MIL is in the camp that doesn't believe this happened. Completely baffles my mind. The Holocaust or the shooting? The shooting. EVERYTHING is a government conspiracy.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on May 14, 2014 9:44:01 GMT -5
OMG. That literally turns my stomach.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 14, 2014 10:47:22 GMT -5
How awful. This reminds me of the idiots who go around saying that the Holocaubst never happened. Was it Huffington Post ran an article recently saying 46% of those polled didn't believe the Holocaust was real. What the hell are they teaching in history classes? According to a recent Anti Defamation League poll, nine out of every one hundred Americans hold anti-Semetic attitudes (26% worldwide). A link to the full survey and its methodology can be found within the article. Global Anti-Semitism Poll Finds Shocking Rate of Holocaust Denial
As for what they are teaching ìn school, evolution is taught in science classes, yet 33% of adult Americans (27% of 18-29 year olds) believe humans have existed ìn their present form since the beginning of time. Public’s Views on Human Evolution
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Post by jkapp on May 14, 2014 10:54:06 GMT -5
The Holocaust or the shooting? The shooting. EVERYTHING is a government conspiracy. Did you also know that all of these conspiracies...are a government conspiracy!!
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Post by Tennesseer on May 14, 2014 11:06:08 GMT -5
As for the man who stole the vinyl sign from the playground, the community, state, country, and world will gather around Grace McDonnell, her family, and all the other families of the Newtown tragedy and protect them from idiots like this denier.
The more light shone upon cockroaches like this guy, the more these deniers go back into hiding and the darkness. Keep on shining your lights.
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Post by zibazinski on May 14, 2014 11:48:12 GMT -5
How awful. This reminds me of the idiots who go around saying that the Holocaust never happened. Was it Huffington Post ran an article recently saying 46% of those polled didn't believe the Holocaust was real. What the hell are they teaching in history classes? They aren't teaching it, due to pressure not to. Plus, some teachers refuse to. I happen to know one. She won't teach sex Ed, either. She was sent to teach GIFTED kids because of it. Glad my kids were out of there by then.
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Post by swamp on May 14, 2014 11:49:31 GMT -5
Was it Huffington Post ran an article recently saying 46% of those polled didn't believe the Holocaust was real. What the hell are they teaching in history classes? They aren't teaching it, due to pressure not to. Plus, some teachers refuse to. I happen to know one. She won't teach sex Ed, either. She was sent to teach GIFTED kids because of it. Glad my kids were out of there by then. Huh?
Sex ed is a requirement in NY. I'm pretty sure the holocaust is too, as part of the unit on WWII.
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Post by zibazinski on May 14, 2014 11:52:41 GMT -5
It IS required, it just never gets taught. I'm serious. I worked at that school and my kids went there.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 14, 2014 11:52:48 GMT -5
Do teachers actually GET to WWII? I got some in high school but my grade school (Catholic, K to 8th grade) never really got past 1915 in American history. I had a bunch of classes I could take in HS to cover history and I focused more on Eurporean History, which also didn't get much beyond 1915....
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 11:54:50 GMT -5
How awful. This reminds me of the idiots who go around saying that the Holocaust never happened. Was it Huffington Post ran an article recently saying 46% of those polled didn't believe the Holocaust was real. What the hell are they teaching in history classes? I remember learning about it in school and it had a profound impact on me. I can't watch any shows concerning it. I keep having visions of a little boy about 5 years old, standing behind a fence, crying. I really don't understand why anyone would think it wasn't real.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 14, 2014 11:58:48 GMT -5
Because the Holocaust is a horrible painful memory of how lousy people are and that humanity doesn't like to think of itself as being capable of doing such horrible and lousy things, including not responding earlier. I know the Holocaust happened but when I was in Eastern Europe, there was no way in hell I was going to see Auschwitz. When the tour I was on offered the chance to go, I stayed behind.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 14, 2014 11:59:20 GMT -5
But comprehensive sex ed is not taught as a mandatory subject in all states. Alabama, California, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas and Colorado are just some of the states that either don't teach it at all, or just teach the bare minimum, which often does not include information about STDs or human sexuality. They can teach the kids about abstinence, and that's about it.
As for the Holocaust info, I recall we spend a few hours on it in school. It's not required in most places (New Jersey mandates it, but right next door, Pennsylvania does not). As is the case with sex ed, teaching kids about the Holocaust is a state-by-state decision.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 12:20:52 GMT -5
How said! "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it", right?
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 14, 2014 12:25:56 GMT -5
How said! "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it", right? It appears to be true, given some recent worldwide events.
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Post by Jaguar on May 14, 2014 12:43:34 GMT -5
I learned about the Holocaust in both grade school, but more in depth in high school. As for the original story, some people haven't got a lick of common sense.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 14, 2014 13:06:58 GMT -5
Regarding the teaching of the Holocaust and WWII-while it is still very important to learn about it, I believe the more time passes from these events, the less focus possibly on these subjects. A seventeen year old in high school today was born in 1997-52 years after the end of WWII. Much history has taken place around the world since the Holocaust and WWII.
I was born 6 years after the end of WWII, so it was still very relevant with some aftermath events/trials/hunts still attributed to it when I attended school. While his words and actions were deplorable, a Catholic grammar school mate mine, he of German heritage, used to goose step on an off the schoolyard area and hailing Hitler, along with relishing (in great detail) the torture of the Jews in the prison camps. Of course he never acted like this in front of the teaching nuns.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on May 14, 2014 13:21:42 GMT -5
But comprehensive sex ed is not taught as a mandatory subject in all states. Alabama, California, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas and Colorado are just some of the states that either don't teach it at all, or just teach the bare minimum, which often does not include information about STDs or human sexuality. They can teach the kids about abstinence, and that's about it. As for the Holocaust info, I recall we spend a few hours on it in school. It's not required in most places (New Jersey mandates it, but right next door, Pennsylvania does not). As is the case with sex ed, teaching kids about the Holocaust is a state-by-state decision. And...hence the reason for Common Core. What's required for one state should really be required for all. Sorry for the tangent there.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 13:45:18 GMT -5
It IS required, it just never gets taught. I'm serious. I worked at that school and my kids went there. And they never learned about the Holocaust? We we finished listening to The Book Thief today... Great book...
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 14, 2014 13:48:18 GMT -5
We had to do a write up with powerpoint presentation on the Holocaust/WWII. I ended up with Dachau as my topic. Ugh that was a traumatizing experience. Facts I learned while researching have stuck with me to this day. But we do need to face it. I made myself go thru the exhibit at the Air & Space museum even though it made me sick. Ignoring history dooms us to repeating it.
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Post by zibazinski on May 14, 2014 13:48:23 GMT -5
I told my kids about the HOLOCAUST and I took them to the museum in NY. Better coming from me anyway because they simply didnt believe me because in their minds, no one could do that to another person, ever. I can only hope that the deniers are like my kids, just can't fathom anyone being like that.
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Post by zibazinski on May 14, 2014 13:49:21 GMT -5
DD had to write a paper on Darfur. She called me up crying about it and wondering why no one cared? That was a pleasant conversation, to be sure.
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