What About This "War on Women"?

[mmhmm]

May 6, 2014 20:56:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 6, 2014 18:46:00 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Why change the title? We get titles like this all the time and very often it has little to do with the subject even. At least she is on topic. Not just spewing hate for the rich or for people who own guns.

i am rich and a own a gun, so you must be talking about EVT. 

I think EVT is rich and owns a gun (or more than one), too. 

[djAdvocate]

May 6, 2014 21:00:00 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

May 6, 2014 20:56:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i am rich and a own a gun, so you must be talking about EVT. 

I think EVT is rich and owns a gun (or more than one), too. 

oh my!  that would mean that the latest broadside missed ship and shore and landed straight in the channel.  INCONCEIVABLE!

[djAdvocate]

May 6, 2014 20:58:59 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

May 6, 2014 20:55:08 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i am convinced that everyone believes in wealth distribution.  they just want to choose how it can be distributed. 

Actually, a whole bunch of 'em want to be sure it's distributed to them, personally! 

if you look at a corporation like a microgovernment (i do), it is extremely authoritarian in structure, and ONE person is in charge of how wealth is distributed: the CEO.  i find it really hilarious to hear CEO's bitch about wealth distribution (and how much of a green shirt Obama is) when it is basically THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION.  it is what they do sunup to sundown.  how they do it very much depends on who they are and what kind of company they work for- but it is still their job. 

FTR: Shooby, if you come work for me, i promise that you will get your fair share.  and if you don't, you will get your fair share, too. 

[Tennesseer]

May 6, 2014 20:56:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 6, 2014 18:46:00 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Why change the title? We get titles like this all the time and very often it has little to do with the subject even. At least she is on topic. Not just spewing hate for the rich or for people who own guns.

i am rich and a own a gun, so you must be talking about EVT. 

Yet again.

[djAdvocate]

May 6, 2014 21:12:33 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

May 6, 2014 20:56:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i am rich and a own a gun, so you must be talking about EVT. 

Yet again.

i am sensing it is too late to "hug this one out". 

[Tennesseer]

May 6, 2014 21:18:13 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 6, 2014 21:12:33 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Yet again.

i am sensing it is too late to "hug this one out". 

You must be clairvoyant.

[Deleted]

More girls have been taken.

Sure wish they were just looking for some ransom money.

"But even as the help was offered to Jonathan, new details were emerging about the abduction of at least eight girls between the ages of 12 and 15, who were snatched Sunday night from the village of Warabe.

The village is located in the rural northeast, near the border of Cameroon, an area considered a stronghold for Boko Haram, a group that U.S. officials say has received training from al Qaeda affiliates.

Villagers in Warabe told CNN that gunmen moved from door-to-door late Sunday, snatching the girls and beating anybody who tried to stop them.

The latest abductions come amid international outcry over the April 14 kidnapping of more than 200 girls. According to accounts, armed members of Boko Haram overpowered security guards at an all-girls school in Chibok, yanked the girls out of bed and forced them into trucks. The convoy of trucks then disappeared into the dense forest bordering Cameroon.


Boko Haram translates to "Western education is sin" in the local Hausa language, and the group has said its aim is to impose a stricter enforcement of Sharia law across Africa's most populous nation, which is split between a majority Muslim north and a mostly Christian south."
 

www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/africa/nigeria-abducted-girls/

[truthbound]

There is no war on women.

[Deleted]

 This has nothing to do with ransom money. It would be nice but false to believe that it does.

"But even as the help was offered to Jonathan, new details were emerging about the abduction of at least eight girls between the ages of 12 and 15, who were snatched Sunday night from the village of Warabe.

The village is located in the rural northeast, near the border of Cameroon, an area considered a stronghold for Boko Haram, a group that U.S. officials say has received training from al Qaeda affiliates.

Villagers in Warabe told CNN that gunmen moved from door-to-door late Sunday, snatching the girls and beating anybody who tried to stop them.

The latest abductions come amid international outcry over the April 14 kidnapping of more than 200 girls. According to accounts, armed members of Boko Haram overpowered security guards at an all-girls school in Chibok, yanked the girls out of bed and forced them into trucks. The convoy of trucks then disappeared into the dense forest bordering Cameroon."

Boko Haram translates to "Western education is sin" in the local Hausa language, and the group has said its aim is to impose a stricter enforcement of Sharia law across Africa's most populous nation, which is split between a majority Muslim north and a mostly Christian south."

www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/africa/nigeria-abducted-girls/

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I agree with Shooby in the sense that this is a tragic targeting of young women. And I wish I could do more than share FB statuses and sign petitions about it. When things like this are happening it feels foolish to call anything in North America a war. But that does not mean we have to ignore the inequality of how women are treated here or that we should stop demanding our human rights. The goal is to raise all people to sharing the same high standard, not race to the bottom of the lowest standard.

[djAdvocate]

May 7, 2014 4:31:36 GMT -5 truthbound said:

There is no war on women.

of course not.  it is a stupid euphamism.  as despicable when used in this context as in the Drug War.

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online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303701304579549603782621352?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303701304579549603782621352.html

"The kidnapping of the schoolgirls throws into bold relief a central part of what the jihadists are about: the oppression of women. Boko Haram sincerely believes that girls are better off enslaved than educated. The terrorists' mission is no different from that of the Taliban assassin who shot and nearly killed 15-year-old Pakistani Malala Yousafzai—as she rode a school bus home in 2012—because she advocated girls' education. As I know from experience, nothing is more anathema to the jihadists than equal and educated women.

How to explain this phenomenon to baffled Westerners, who these days seem more eager to smear the critics of jihadism as "Islamophobes" than to stand up for women's most basic rights? Where are the Muslim college-student organizations denouncing Boko Haram? Where is the outrage during Friday prayers? These girls' lives deserve more than a Twitter TWTR +0.28% hashtag protest."

This is the real war on women. Shooby's title is right on.

[EVT1]

May 6, 2014 21:00:00 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

May 6, 2014 20:56:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i am rich and a own a gun, so you must be talking about EVT. 

I think EVT is rich and owns a gun (or more than one), too. 

How did I get involved in this?

For the record I am not rich, not even close. Have some people in the family that qualify.

Plenty of guns though- too many actually as I inherited some that I don't need- yet don't want to sell.

So far have 3 rifles (.22,.30-06, .45-70) 3 shotguns (16,12,12)  9 pistols  (.22, .32-20, .380, .380, .38 special, .38 super, .40, .40, .45)

So you can see I am anti-gun.

[Spellbound454]

The culture of that part of Africa is that you can have 4 wives....The girls will be sold as 5th wives which means they will be treated as slaves
and they can fetch about £200 each.

The president has asked for help from the US Britain and France and we are sending our special forces kidnapping units
Its quit a big area but anyone who has a young female in their household had better be able to account for her legitimacy

[djAdvocate]

May 9, 2014 19:41:48 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

May 6, 2014 21:00:00 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I think EVT is rich and owns a gun (or more than one), too. 

How did I get involved in this?

For the record I am not rich, not even close. Have some people in the family that qualify.

Plenty of guns though- too many actually as I inherited some that I don't need- yet don't want to sell.

So far have 3 rifles (.22,.30-06, .45-70) 3 shotguns (16,12,12)  9 pistols  (.22, .32-20, .380, .380, .38 special, .38 super, .40, .40, .45)

So you can see I am anti-gun.

you have me WAY outgunned.....in the weapons category.....

[Spellbound454]

I guess the real question is why, when 200 girls had been kidnapped, did it take Goodluck Johnathan 3 weeks to respond?.
How come he doesn't appear to care for his people.?

Nigeria is the biggest economy in Africa, it is hosting the world economic forum..... but this has to be greatly damaging for potential investors.

There has been protests across the country but there is also a huge international response.
Africans are quick to say the international response was slow but Obama has since said that he was communicating with the Nigerian government from the outset but he had been blocked.

If Nigeria want a world platform, they are going to have to do a lot better than this.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

If Nigeria want a world platform, they are going to have to do a lot better than this.

It isn't the country of Nigeria, or the Government there though - the people who kidnapped the students are radical militants who did it for their own gain - probably to get money to fund the purchase of weapons..

[Spellbound454]

Its the sort of government where money can buy anything......people can be bought off.

They had a warning that these girls were going to be kidnapped and chose to do nothing.
The president sat back in a chair for 3 weeks and said he was going to get the perpetrators....knowing full well he didn't have the power to do that.,.. and rebuffing offers of help.

There are protests all over Nigeria......the people are furious.......and they have a right to be.


If it hadn't been for the "Bring back our girls" campaign...this story wouldn't even be in the news.

[EVT1]

May 10, 2014 0:43:22 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 9, 2014 19:41:48 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

How did I get involved in this?

For the record I am not rich, not even close. Have some people in the family that qualify.

Plenty of guns though- too many actually as I inherited some that I don't need- yet don't want to sell.

So far have 3 rifles (.22,.30-06, .45-70) 3 shotguns (16,12,12)  9 pistols  (.22, .32-20, .380, .380, .38 special, .38 super, .40, .40, .45)

So you can see I am anti-gun.

you have me WAY outgunned.....in the weapons category.....

I still dodge traffic hanging over buildings

[EVT1]

May 10, 2014 1:45:42 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

If Nigeria want a world platform, they are going to have to do a lot better than this.

It isn't the country of Nigeria, or the Government there though - the people who kidnapped the students are radical militants who did it for their own gain - probably to get money to fund the purchase of weapons..

You're not pronouncing it right