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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 20, 2014 3:35:10 GMT -5
I'm not calling you anything. and i was not criticizing you, specifically. aren't we clever?Put all the words in my mouth you want. I know you don't follow me, and that's why having a conversation with you on this topic is a complete waist of my time. and a complete chest of mine.All will be revealed as it should. I will leave you with this; China+USA= promised land, it's just going to be one hell of a time getting there. not following you there. China is trying to become the US economically. they won't get there on a per capita basis, imo. but if they get 30% of the way there on a per capita basis, they will become the #1 superpower. the last prediction i saw said that they will reach that point in 2015 on a PPP basis. the very much real basis will follow not long after, given their 6-10% GDP growth. this is not a criticism of the US. this is not praise of China. it is just math. Ok DJ, I will try this one more time since you seem to be very confused.. I knew I shouldn't have read you last comment before bed, 6 am is fast approaching.... First of all this is God's kingdom, not mans. Second, you are no longer talking about a collapse, your talking about countries "overtaking" the USA in GDP. The only way this happens is if the continue to "Americanize" their business model, we have touched on this already in a prior conversation. So in other words, all these other places are going to have to become cookie cutter USAs to make their GDP dreams come true. Is this a bad thing? Isn't life pretty decent here for the common man? So if these countries are like North America, is that a collapse? Or is that just the USA isn't the biggest economy inside a global system where the common man enjoys a decent life? Your FEAR is that the USA isn't going to be the biggest. Does it matter if we all live like we do here? Third, China is on the very of economic collapse. Your data is so outdated it isn't funny. All the talk now, is of what we have been talking about on MT for years. China is at risk of becoming just like Japan. Search Ghost cities in China and read up. Only difference is Japan didn't face an on slot from Muslim fanatics. The Jihad is trying to engulf Central Asia and China, thanks to the tyrant Putin, they are now well on their way. China's massive currency reserves are almost all USD's... Without the USA, China is screwed. It is in China's best interest to keep the USA alive and well.. Oh, did you hear that the air is so bad in China that it's probably causing birth defects? Fourth. Africa is what we call a continent, not a country. It is filled with many little countries that have a tendency to butcher each other, still to this day. That is unless there is a civil war and then they are just butchering their own countrymen. Sudan? Rwanda? Ect, ect, ect. Africa is 110% dependent on China, as China is on the USA. See the pattern yet? Fifth, India? The place where Mrs. America says she's to brown to be a beauty queen?? Sixth, while things are far from perfect in North America, it's still one of the best, if not the best, place to live in the world. Everyone, everywhere(aside from Western Europe) is playing catch up. China and the USA(the two big players in the world) don't want this war that is fast approaching to happen. They know that love makes more. This PISSES Russia, Iran, and the last lot of these tyrants that are in control off big time. They don't want to see a Chinese, American hegemony because it will lead the world to a place that we can only imagine right now, and they won't get the glory. So guess what? Looks like it has to be one more time! To sum it up again. China+USA=the promised land. Close to 6K years in the making, and we are going to have to go through some serious tribulations to get there, but his Kingdom will come. Nothing has survived in this world as long as Hebrew scripture has, literally nothing.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 20, 2014 10:16:01 GMT -5
not following you there. China is trying to become the US economically. they won't get there on a per capita basis, imo. but if they get 30% of the way there on a per capita basis, they will become the #1 superpower. the last prediction i saw said that they will reach that point in 2015 on a PPP basis. the very much real basis will follow not long after, given their 6-10% GDP growth. this is not a criticism of the US. this is not praise of China. it is just math. Ok DJ, I will try this one more time since you seem to be very confused.. I knew I shouldn't have read you last comment before bed, 6 am is fast approaching.... First of all this is God's kingdom, not mans. irrelevant. man possesses WILL, and therefore, it is our world to shepherd.Second, you are no longer talking about a collapse, your talking about countries "overtaking" the USA in GDP. i was replying to a set of assertions about the US, which were false.The only way this happens is if the continue to "Americanize" their business model, we have touched on this already in a prior conversation. So in other words, all these other places are going to have to become cookie cutter USAs to make their GDP dreams come true. Is this a bad thing? Isn't life pretty decent here for the common man? So if these countries are like North America, is that a collapse? Or is that just the USA isn't the biggest economy inside a global system where the common man enjoys a decent life? Your FEAR is that the USA isn't going to be the biggest. Does it matter if we all live like we do here? Third, China is on the very of economic collapse. people like to say this, but i am not certain it is true, at all. if you want to discuss this in detail, let's start a thread.Your data is so outdated it isn't funny. what data?All the talk now, is of what we have been talking about on MT for years. China is at risk of becoming just like Japan. that is a pretty odd claim considering the state of development of the two countries, and their debt level.Search Ghost cities in China and read up. Only difference is Japan didn't face an on slot from Muslim fanatics. The Jihad is trying to engulf Central Asia and China, thanks to the tyrant Putin, they are now well on their way. yeah, you are right. i am totally ignorant of the Jiihad which is threatening China. please elaborate.China's massive currency reserves are almost all USD's... Without the USA, China is screwed. It is in China's best interest to keep the USA alive and well.. Oh, did you hear that the air is so bad in China that it's probably causing birth defects? of course. the great thing about dictatorships, however, is that you don't need to care about such "externalities".Fourth. Africa is what we call a continent, not a country. i am aware of what Africa is, bro. i was talking about the entire region, not one country. i am going to delete the rest of your "lecture" here, as i know African economics and politics better than most people on this board.Fifth, India? The place where Mrs. America says she's to brown to be a beauty queen?? i hold more hope for India than China- but again, i think we should have a separate discussion on the matter.Sixth, while things are far from perfect in North America, it's still one of the best, if not the best, place to live in the world. Everyone, everywhere(aside from Western Europe) is playing catch up. China and the USA(the two big players in the world) don't want this war that is fast approaching to happen. They know that love makes more. This PISSES Russia, Iran, and the last lot of these tyrants that are in control off big time. They don't want to see a Chinese, American hegemony because it will lead the world to a place that we can only imagine right now, and they won't get the glory. So guess what? Looks like it has to be one more time! To sum it up again. China+USA=the promised land. Close to 6K years in the making the USA was not 6K in the making. it is not even 0.6k in the making., and we are going to have to go through some serious tribulations to get there, but his Kingdom will come. Nothing has survived in this world as long as Hebrew scripture has, literally nothing. oh, i see. this is BIBLE talk. so, you think the earth is 6000 years old, i guess? never mind. discussion over.
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 21, 2014 18:09:44 GMT -5
I'm moving a couple of posts into this thread so a discussion that was taking place in P&M can continue here. This is done at Ahamburger's request.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 21, 2014 23:55:45 GMT -5
Thanks mmhmm! djAdvocate, Free will is our greatest gift, we are free to make our own choices in life. For the longest time all we have chosen to do as a society is treat each other terribly. The path to God is based on YOUR/OUR ability as free thinking beings to make the right decisions in life. Yes, we are supposed to be good shepherds of this planet. Aside from the last while here we have failed miserably, and we still have so much room for improvement. What I'm are talking about DJ, is the messianic age. The reason that the Jewish people reject that JC was the messiah is because we still aren't there, yet. However, it doesn't actually state anywhere in scripture how long it would take the messianic age to happen after the messiah is here, just that the Messiah will bring on the Kingdom of God. I understand that lots of people for lots of years have been calling for China's economic collapse. I have not. I have been calling it what it is, a slow motion plane crash into the next Asian crisis. I actually started a thread about it last year, you can find it here.Why am I saying that we are getting close now? Where am I getting the comparisons between Japan and China? You can read it all about it here.... China facing fresh 'ghost town' crisis after developer collapseNotice how the riches man in Asia is dumping his property because China's 3 and 4 tier cities have seen prices drop by 40%+ already? Your debt to GDP ratio is off dj, that's the data I'm talking about. Chinese companies are almost exclusively state owned, as you know I'm sure. However, the dirty little secret is that so many companies in China are insolvent it's not even funny. Notice the defaults in the Chinese economy that have started this year? China's debt is owed internally, almost exclusively. Which means that China's debt to GDP ratio is at least 220%... If not closer to like 350-400% Why am I worried about China's economy and not the USA's? The USA just went through and economic collapse, again. This would be the second major meltdown in 100 years, and each time things keep coming back. There is only one reason for this, the people. You're guys ability to come back from the brink has, once again, let the world in amazement and bewilderment. So, how does China+the USA= the promised land? The Chinese people are amazing as well. They have overcome so much in the last 100 years, some of which was with the help of their friends. I'm sure you know the Allied forces freed the Chinese from Japanese enslavement during WW2. The fall of communism in China will be just another thing that their American friends help them overcome. China vows to clean up 60 percent of cities by 2020, Kunming pollution protest is tip of rising Chinese environmental activismWhich brings us to the tribulation period, and the Jihad that is trying to engulf central Asia and China. The recent knife attacks and bombings in China are a prime example, but this is straight from the horses mouth.... Chinese Martyrs' Brigade group claims responsibility for flight MH370, Uighur leader: “We have plans for many attacks in China”Thanks to Putin and his Allies in the Mid East thinking they are winning, well, that's what I mean by one more time.... As far as Africa goes, first I want to apologize for being condescending, it was late and I should know better. The African Union has been a dream since the 60's, I know. But this keeps happening.... Sectarian violence in Central African Republic reported at terrifying levelsIndia.... Miss America, Meet India’s ‘Dark’ Side I would suspect that if/when this next stage hits, Africa and India will basically rip themselves apart.. Which will leave the USA and China picking up the pieces. This comes after the Sino-American global hegemony comes into play. Or as I like to call it, Pax Globa, aka, God's Kingdom on Earth. Dj, It's not the USA that was 6k years in the making, it's the Kingdom of God has been 5774 years in the making. It all started when a "crazy" guy named Abraham received a message from God. From there, 3 separate religions have evolved that now encompass around 70% of the worlds population. The USA is merely the vessel that has spread this "crazy" idea of Freedom and liberty around the globe. This is why God Blessed America.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 4, 2014 23:21:35 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 29, 2014 12:37:26 GMT -5
Well, with both Russia and the West accusing each other of starting WW3. China's looming economic disaster growing more certain and their recent upping of antiterrorism. The Popes visit to the Mid East, the Temple Mount...Well, basically everything from post #3 growing stronger, I thought it would be a good time to post some info on significant celestial events. Again, it's a good thing that Hebrew texts have been misinterpreted.. Thanks JC.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 16, 2014 2:02:58 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 16, 2014 23:07:07 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Aug 24, 2014 0:29:10 GMT -5
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Post by damnotagain on Aug 24, 2014 7:20:54 GMT -5
They just turned up the fan. Now back to our regular news.
Potus , eagles #7 at Martha's Vineyard ..... Our leader doesn't have time for this shit Aham. To busy in ferguson too , defending criminals.
Gods kingdom is collapsing .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 9:23:19 GMT -5
Is the Kingdom of God collapsing? No. The world is.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Aug 24, 2014 23:24:36 GMT -5
Exactly, heart. Man's kingdom is collapsing for the same reason that Jewish people don't accept JC is the Messiah - yet. Peace. Damn, what you're saying is evidence of the peril of man's kingdom. On earth as it is in heaven has yet to be achieved.
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Post by damnotagain on Aug 25, 2014 5:19:52 GMT -5
Your preaching to the choir. I know the difference between suffering on earth and heavens reward. JC gift assures us of that salvation ... I know I am a sinner , Who here isn't? It is Gods grace not ours .
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Aug 27, 2014 0:05:29 GMT -5
Exactly, humans need to treat each other better. The whole point of the Messiah's mission is to bring heaven on earth. This point has been drowned out by the consistent "end of the world" talk in the Christian and Islamic religions.
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Post by Shooby on Aug 27, 2014 6:15:35 GMT -5
Heaven on earth will not come until after the Second Coming and Jesus reigns on Earth. We are not going to set up Heaven on Earth by our own accord.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Sept 10, 2014 23:36:57 GMT -5
I hear ya Shooby. I have faith that when JC was here he set in motion a series of events that will result in the messianic age coming together after what is coming next. I believe that JC's return was a warning to the Romans - which was fulfilled - and that these next years are going to be a turning point in history just as when JC walked the earth was.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Sept 11, 2014 13:06:16 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Sept 13, 2014 0:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on Sept 13, 2014 0:40:10 GMT -5
I suppose that's one way to look at it.
I'm seeing it as the believed for progression to the unity of man and we are all one... things in RL and the universal mind.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Sept 13, 2014 1:21:05 GMT -5
Yep, that's exactly what the kingdom of God will be. It's just going to be one helluva time getting there. Stay .
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Sept 13, 2014 19:58:18 GMT -5
By taking part in worship services, praying, reading the Holy Bible, then following reasonable person practices, God's Kingdom is strengthened.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Sept 20, 2014 17:50:00 GMT -5
Good point Artemis! Something interesting to consider in this article because it's a very valid point back up with current events.
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Post by Opti on Sept 21, 2014 14:42:38 GMT -5
Yep, that's exactly what the kingdom of God will be. It's just going to be one helluva time getting there. Stay . Again, it depends on which theology you use. My basic theology is - God is all there is, everything is God, therefore the kingdom of God is. Is here now. Might be on the other side too, but I'm not entirely sure the biblical version will come to pass as the writers and Christians have interpreted it.
Nothing to really wait for. The universe is simply God knowing itself.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Sept 22, 2014 1:29:28 GMT -5
Yep, that's exactly what the kingdom of God will be. It's just going to be one helluva time getting there. Stay . Again, it depends on which theology you use. My basic theology is - God is all there is, everything is God, therefore the kingdom of God is. Is here now. Might be on the other side too, but I'm not entirely sure the biblical version will come to pass as the writers and Christians have interpreted it.
Nothing to really wait for. The universe is simply God knowing itself.
I understand what you're saying about how this is already God's Kingdom - and I agree with you. However, I also know that man has tried to set up many little kingdoms inside of it, and they have all ended poorly - regardless of what dogma they followed. I'm not waiting for anything. This false kingdom of man is coming under the umbrella of the almighty, as I have outlined on this thread - and many others - with current events to back it up. For the longest time I believed that we were advanced enough that things would transition smoothly. As always, putting faith in humanity is never a good bet. Stay .
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Mar 21, 2015 12:40:05 GMT -5
"First of all this is God's kingdom, not mans."
You have an opinion, and I respect that...I don't agree with it.
This is not God's Kingdom...it is our little sand box, and we are not doing a very good job of playing nice in it, I agree.
If you look for things outside of yourself, to make life better or explain what is often absurd, you will be disappointed.
Believe in yourself...be the best you can be, and all that jazz. If there was a God, that is what s/he would tell you...and be a good person.
BTW, you have pretty good taste in music
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 21, 2015 15:15:53 GMT -5
Hey, RNB'! Nice to see ya around again, my friend - thanks for the compliment. You are free to believe what you would like. It's going to be a crazy next 7-10 yrs, I will guarantee you that. And I don't mean like what we have been accustomed to crazy - I mean universally captivating, altering the course of humanity crazy. My advice is to look outside yourself because that's where life happens. My four sons and my incredible wife are an inspiration to me, and make me want to do the best I can. I'm always looking at what is going on around me, and I find that I meet lots of interesting people. For instance, I am currently entering into talks with a 70 year old about starting a business, who specializes in business that will help me with a different business partner. This guy has spent his life doing what he as a Christian calls God's work. His work includes things like; going to Africa to help with water projects, and dedicating his life to building an environmentally sustainable and peaceful business world. In other words, I believe the more focus there is on I, the less focus there is on making your surrounds a better place. The way I see it, the more people that focus on making their surroundings a better place, the more people there are making their surroundings a better place. From there the phenomenon builds and compounds, and eventually the majority of people are being mature - making their surroundings a better place.
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