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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 5, 2014 11:55:48 GMT -5
If there's a food I really truly hate, my kids are going to have to learn if they like it elsewhere, sorry. If they want to learn to cook it for themselves, I'll buy it but I won't be cooking it. Mom likes liver & onions. My dad will eat ANYTHING (even the burnt toast) but even he wouldn't eat that. That's what I was thinking. My kids are exposed to a lot but it isn't like I am cooking stuff at home that I absolutely hate. There are things I'm not fond of that I eat (either because they are healthy or because someone else likes them). But my kids aren't really exposed to things I absolutely hate because I don't cook them.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 5, 2014 11:59:49 GMT -5
Me either! One has to draw a line somewhere! but what if your kid likes liver? they're forced to eat something they don't like but you do, shouldn't you have to do the same? I'm convinced you just like to argue!lol
How would my kids know if they like liver? I have never cooked it....I have cooked lots of stuff that has turned out awful and we ALL suffer through it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 11:59:57 GMT -5
"Forcing" my children to try foods they don't like more than once is not child abuse, it is all part of being a parent. My Dad loves liver and onions. Mom would cook up a pound of bacon to cook the liver in and we couldn't have any bacon until we tried the liver. Now THAT is child abuse!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 12:01:52 GMT -5
but what if your kid likes liver? they're forced to eat something they don't like but you do, shouldn't you have to do the same? I'm convinced you just like to argue!lol
How would my kids know if they like liver? I have never cooked it....I have cooked lots of stuff that has turned out awful and we ALL suffer through it.
do they never eat anywhere else?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 12:03:00 GMT -5
Not anywhere that serves organ meat!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 12:04:20 GMT -5
And instead of trying to "catch" us compromising our positions, why not just come out and say whatever it is you are alluding to?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 5, 2014 12:07:05 GMT -5
I'm convinced you just like to argue!lol
How would my kids know if they like liver? I have never cooked it....I have cooked lots of stuff that has turned out awful and we ALL suffer through it.
do they never eat anywhere else? Nope...I keep them locked in the basement
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 5, 2014 12:08:20 GMT -5
"Forcing" my children to try foods they don't like more than once is not child abuse, it is all part of being a parent. My Dad loves liver and onions. Mom would cook up a pound of bacon to cook the liver in and we couldn't have any bacon until we tried the liver. Now THAT is child abuse! I'm sitting here laughing...I always knew I was a sucky parent, I just didn't realize it had to do with me expecting them to eat food that I serve. I guess with my cooking skills eating ANY of my food could be considered child abuse
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 12:10:24 GMT -5
my point is that it's very easy to say 'eat it or starve' knowing that everything you've made is liked by you....but that serving an extra vegetable or a different starch, or a non-meat protein if you have a vegetarian, is somehow akin to catering to your kid and they'll never eat anything.
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Post by 973beachbum on Feb 5, 2014 12:11:17 GMT -5
DH loves liver and onions. Personally I would prefer he not even eat it in the house. I'm not cooking it though. There are a bunch of things that he grew up on that he loves that I didn't have as a kid and won't eat when I do cook it. One item I cook, but won't eat is BBQ. Everyone can start laughing but my Portuguese immigrant family didn't make BBQ growing up. He on the other hand agrees with colonial prisoners that lobster should be fed to the dogs. Which means more for me. I probably cook at least twenty things that he and at least one kid enjoy that I won't eat. I also cook a bunch that he won't eat. I probably cook more things that he likes that I won't eat than vice versa, but really it is just because I don't like cooking food I know the others don't like.
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Post by milee on Feb 5, 2014 12:11:40 GMT -5
I guess if my kids were adventurous enough to try liver at a stranger's house and decided that it was their absolute favorite food, I'd figure out a way to give it to them every once in a while. Maybe cook it outside or take them to a restaurant that serves it? Not sure. I'm not a huge fan of liver myself, but it's mostly because the smell of it makes me sick. So that gets tough if it's something aromatic that you don't like but are trying to prepare.
Then again, since none of my family but me likes crab legs, I don't usually cook those at home because I know the smell is disgusting to them. So for things which smell strong enough to make someone feel queasy, we try to respect the others' feelings on that and figure out ways to not stink up the house.
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Post by justme on Feb 5, 2014 12:12:10 GMT -5
I was the kid in the instance, my parents LOVE onions. I hate them with a fiery passion. Growing up when it was my turn to cook a meal for dinner, if it was a recipe that called for onions I made a bigger batch for them with onions and a smaller batch for me without it. So in small instances like that, sure. It's a little more work, but it's not like I'm cooking an entirely different meal.
Now, I don't have kids so I don't know how I'll handle it if I ever do, but I don't like the idea of forcing myself to eat full meals of something I hate. I love food, and still go without eating if it's something I don't like (occurs way less than when I was a kid). So I'm not sure how I'd choke down a whole meal without the kid seeing an anguished look on my face.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 5, 2014 12:13:51 GMT -5
my point is that it's very easy to say 'eat it or starve' knowing that everything you've made is liked by you....but that serving an extra vegetable or a different starch, or a non-meat protein if you have a vegetarian, is somehow akin to catering to your kid and they'll never eat anything. That's isn't true. My husband also does some of the cooking (not that often, but he does it). I don't always like what he cooks but I eat it.
And you are still not really reading everyone's posts but sitting here nit picking. I said several times that I do not force my kids to eat something that they absolutely hate. Not necessarily liking something isn't the same thing.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 5, 2014 12:15:33 GMT -5
I guess if my kids were adventurous enough to try liver at a stranger's house and decided that it was their absolute favorite food, I'd figure out a way to give it to them every once in a while. Maybe cook it outside or take them to a restaurant that serves it? Not sure. I'm not a huge fan of liver myself, but it's mostly because the smell of it makes me sick. So that gets tough if it's something aromatic that you don't like but are trying to prepare.
Then again, since none of my family but me likes crab legs, I don't usually cook those at home because I know the smell is disgusting to them. So for things which smell strong enough to make someone feel queasy, we try to respect the others' feelings on that and figure out ways to not stink up the house. I can't think of anyone that actually makes liver. My mom made it when I was growing up and I ate it. it wasn't absolutely horrible but she put a breading on it and fried it in a bath of butter. Not exactly healthy.
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Post by justme on Feb 5, 2014 12:17:04 GMT -5
my point is that it's very easy to say 'eat it or starve' knowing that everything you've made is liked by you....but that serving an extra vegetable or a different starch, or a non-meat protein if you have a vegetarian, is somehow akin to catering to your kid and they'll never eat anything. But, a crux I think you're missing in the 'eat it or starve', most meals have a veggie, starch, and entrée. Sometimes multiple. If the kid (or adult) doesn't like ANY of the three then you have a problem/picky eater. Like, on nights my parents cooked shrimp I was supposed to cook my own protein since I don't like shrimp. Most of the times I did, but there were a couple times I was lazy and just ate the side dishes for dinner. Technically it was an eat it or starve since my mom wasn't cooking anything other than the shrimp, but I didn't starve because there were some things she cooked that night that I liked.
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Post by milee on Feb 5, 2014 12:17:11 GMT -5
It's a long thread, so maybe I missed or forgot one, but I don't remember anyone saying that kids should be forced to choke down an entire meal they hate or that preparing an extra veggie will doom your kids to picky Hell...
Is it possible that this is an issue you're sensitive about?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 12:19:18 GMT -5
my point is that it's very easy to say 'eat it or starve' knowing that everything you've made is liked by you....but that serving an extra vegetable or a different starch, or a non-meat protein if you have a vegetarian, is somehow akin to catering to your kid and they'll never eat anything. I have already said that I serve non-meat proteins to my budding vegetarian. What I won't do is cook an entirely different meal for each person in the house. Switching out a protein or serving a veggie they like is not the same thing as cooking a meal to order. Also not the same? ONLY giving them things they like at every meal. It is my job as their parent to force them to try things they do not like on occasion. If I am going to turn them into well-rounded adults they are going to have to do things they might not enjoy not only for the experience but because they need to learn how to hack it out in the big, wide world. I HATE doing laundry but I do it just about every day because we need clean clothes. They also will learn to cook, clean and behave appropriately in a multitude of social situations before I am done with them.
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Post by justme on Feb 5, 2014 12:33:24 GMT -5
It's definitely a good thing. Letting kids buy into the idea that they are a picky eater becomes a self fulfilling prophecy sometimes. I was THE picky eater of my entire extended family. And I was picky, but it was never as picky as a list of 5-10 things I will eat and nothing more. But all I heard about was how I was a picky eater and didn't like a lot of things. I'd go out to restaurants with the family and want to try new things and my parents would immediately start peppering me with questions about whether I was sure I wanted that because you know you don't like X. So I'd cave and pick something I knew I'd like. It wasn't really until college that my food world exploded because I no longer had my parents there chiming in on my choices like I was still the picky 5 year old. It was a year or so into college that I was out to dinner with them and they started in again and I had to tell them to stop it, that I was an adult and can decide what I want to eat. Now there's several things that I eat that my parents won't even think about eating - some they haven't even tried! I'll never forget the time I was visiting my uncle and they printed out a menu to see if I would like the restaurant and I immediately said "ooh! sushi, I'm good!" while my mom poured over the menu to check (she was the picky one of her siblings) - one of the first times with family that I wasn't the one they had to worry about.
I think my food world would have expanded a lot sooner if I wasn't kept in the role as the "picky" eater, I really do love trying new food (to a certain extent ).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 12:36:03 GMT -5
They were probably worried about wasting money on a meal that you wouldn't eat.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 5, 2014 12:37:10 GMT -5
It's definitely a good thing. Letting kids buy into the idea that they are a picky eater becomes a self fulfilling prophecy sometimes. I was THE picky eater of my entire extended family. And I was picky, but it was never as picky as a list of 5-10 things I will eat and nothing more. But all I heard about was how I was a picky eater and didn't like a lot of things. I'd go out to restaurants with the family and want to try new things and my parents would immediately start peppering me with questions about whether I was sure I wanted that because you know you don't like X. So I'd cave and pick something I knew I'd like. It wasn't really until college that my food world exploded because I no longer had my parents there chiming in on my choices like I was still the picky 5 year old. It was a year or so into college that I was out to dinner with them and they started in again and I had to tell them to stop it, that I was an adult and can decide what I want to eat. Now there's several things that I eat that my parents won't even think about eating - some they haven't even tried!
I think my food world would have expanded a lot sooner if I wasn't kept in the role as the "picky" eater, I really do love trying new food (to a certain extent ).
My bff does that with her dd...when we invite them over for anything, they bring food for their 7 year old. Before the kid even gets a chance to taste anything she says "ok, Suzy won't like that...she is so picky"....holy hell, how do you know she won't like it without giving her a chance to like it?
Each parent is different but that kind of stuff drives me nuts. Again, I don't know if I'm blessed with good eaters who just happen to be the kids of an "eat what I serve" mom or if they are that way because I never catered to them.
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Post by justme on Feb 5, 2014 12:40:28 GMT -5
Yes, that was it to a certain extent and I definitely see that when I was younger. But by the time I was in high school I think they should have given me more room to maybe screw up - the food choices weren't so off the wall that another family member wouldn't eat it for leftovers if I hated it. It kept me from trying other stuff when it wasn't a restaurant too, didn't want to put something on my plate and then hear my parents tell me "of course you don't like it, we said not to put it on your plate".
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Feb 5, 2014 12:48:55 GMT -5
Oh Heaven's, Miss T. My brother and SIL are exactly like that. They bring along food because their child is "picky". I don't have to deal with it so I don't care. The part that gets me is they say "picky eater" like it some kind of badge of honor or makes her special or shows she has some superior palette or something dumb like that. It isn't something to be proud of IMO. It's shows an indulged, spoiled child who is going to grow into an entitled adult nobody wants to be around. (It's not just the eating - it's a whole list of things). It's not something to be proud of - not if the "picky eater" is a child or an adult. I honestly think the fact that they feel the need to announce the fact that their child is particular to the whole world - several times a day - gets her attention and she likes it very much. I know some adults who scream out their habits for the same reason.
Of course I could be wrong. I'm a bit hormonal today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 13:39:26 GMT -5
I don't cook disgusting foods... I will always have ~something~ that i know my kids will eat. I do try to get them to try something new, but I literally cannot force food down their throat. If they refuse to eat it they refuse to eat it. And I will not cook something that I hate and then sit there and eat it. That's dumb. My oldest is the least adventurous eater in the house.. but I've found I have more success getting him to try something new if I let him taste while I'm cooking. I'll give him a little spoon or forkful of what I'm cooking and he is more receptive to that... I think getting to just stand there in front of the stove and taste something is less torturous than staring at it on the plate... SOmetimes he spits it out.. and sometimes he discovers something new and delicious... Everything that is wrong with me today is because I was tortured by peas and brussel sprouts as a child!
PS. they taste much worse when they are cold.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 5, 2014 13:44:16 GMT -5
I don't cook disgusting foods... I will always have ~something~ that i know my kids will eat. I do try to get them to try something new, but I literally cannot force food down their throat. If they refuse to eat it they refuse to eat it. And I will not cook something that I hate and then sit there and eat it. That's dumb. My oldest is the least adventurous eater in the house.. but I've found I have more success getting him to try something new if I let him taste while I'm cooking. I'll give him a little spoon or forkful of what I'm cooking and he is more receptive to that... I think getting to just stand there in front of the stove and taste something is less torturous than staring at it on the plate... SOmetimes he spits it out.. and sometimes he discovers something new and delicious... Everything that is wrong with me today is because I was tortured by peas and brussel sprouts as a child!
PS. they taste much worse when they are cold.
I was forced to eat tuna casserole...no child should ever have to eat tuna casserole And no singlemom...I have never forced my kids to eat it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 13:44:56 GMT -5
Yes, it explains everything!
This a public service announcement: Don't let this happen to your children.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 13:46:54 GMT -5
Too late! Time to decide between therapy or orthodontia for them....
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Post by swamp on Feb 5, 2014 13:48:58 GMT -5
Then again, since none of my family but me likes crab legs, I don't usually cook those at home because I know the smell is disgusting to them. So for things which smell strong enough to make someone feel queasy, we try to respect the others' feelings on that and figure out ways to not stink up the house. Cook crab legs on the grill.
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Post by swamp on Feb 5, 2014 13:50:54 GMT -5
I don't cook disgusting foods... I will always have ~something~ that i know my kids will eat. I do try to get them to try something new, but I literally cannot force food down their throat. If they refuse to eat it they refuse to eat it. And I will not cook something that I hate and then sit there and eat it. That's dumb. My oldest is the least adventurous eater in the house.. but I've found I have more success getting him to try something new if I let him taste while I'm cooking. I'll give him a little spoon or forkful of what I'm cooking and he is more receptive to that... I think getting to just stand there in front of the stove and taste something is less torturous than staring at it on the plate... SOmetimes he spits it out.. and sometimes he discovers something new and delicious... Everything that is wrong with me today is because I was tortured by peas and brussel sprouts as a child!
PS. they taste much worse when they are cold.
They are awful cold. Boiled to mush and then cold. Blech. Even the black lab who would eat anything wouldn't eat them.
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Post by swamp on Feb 5, 2014 13:51:40 GMT -5
I was forced to eat tuna casserole...no child should ever have to eat tuna casserole And no singlemom...I have never forced my kids to eat it! I used to love tuna casserole as a kid... and creamed tuna on toast. And I still love tuna salad. Tuna should not be served warm. Except a tuna melt. That is acceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 13:53:06 GMT -5
No it's not!
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