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Post by swamp on Jan 22, 2014 15:48:19 GMT -5
Boiled hot dogs are nasty. Pretty much any meat is bad boiled. Meat should be prepared over open flames, or in a pan over open flames. The carcinogens you get from searing the meat are the good part.
My poor husband was fed boiled hot dogs as a child. I don't get it. It's easier to put a hot dog in a pan and roll it around than to boil it. Even easier to turn on the grill and roll it around. No pan to wash.
ETA: But I'd have to disagree about the boiled meat. Most is yucky, but boiled dinner with ham is divine.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 22, 2014 15:51:05 GMT -5
I didn't really have picky eaters...The food went on the table. They didn't have a choice and nothing else was offered if they didn't eat it. They weren't allowed to leave the table until they had eaten a reasonable amount......although I did put out small plates for them and try to choose things they would like...ie chicken, cheese and fish fingers. There weren't any crisps or sweets in the house. As they got older, they tried more things but I never made a big fuss over dinner time.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 22, 2014 15:59:01 GMT -5
Right. You can cook a hot dog completely in less time then it takes to get the water boiling.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 22, 2014 15:59:08 GMT -5
I guess I was lucky as well. The kids ate what I made, maybe not all of it and as they got older they were allowed to express their preferences. DD hates green beans, DS hates corn. Okay, so when we have family dinner, I make both. I don't even remember most of the time who likes what. No one but me likes peas. . I get my love of all veggies because I grew up with former farmer grandparents and how they ate. Brussels sprouts, spinach, the works.
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Post by milee on Jan 22, 2014 16:03:07 GMT -5
Right. You can cook a hot dog completely in less time then it takes to get the water boiling. It's funny we're talking about this today. Last weekend we were camping and a friend left 4 hot dogs in my cooler, so I was going to serve them as part of dinner last night. Before leaving for a run at 5, I asked DH if he'd cook the hot dogs and turn on the broccoli steamer so it would be ready when I got back. DH and the boys gave me a blank look and said, "Um, you never make hot dogs. How do I cook them?"
I realized I had no clue. After lengthy debate, I think he just "fried" them by heating them in a shallow pan. They were OK.
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Post by swamp on Jan 22, 2014 16:05:09 GMT -5
When you are camping, you're supposed to put a stick in them and cook them over the fire.
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Post by Sunnyday on Jan 22, 2014 16:08:28 GMT -5
I didn't read all the posts, but the old advice about no kid letting themselves starve is such bull! My kid will deconstruct a sandwich. She will lick the mayo off and eat the cheese. The bread may or may not be touched, and the rest goes in the garbage.
If we serve her something in which no part if palatable to her, she won't eat it. She will hold out until the next meal. If two meals in a row are unpalatable to her, then she will hold until the third meal. But by then she will have found things to eat either as a snack (fruit) or the meals at daycare.
We did everything that we were suppose to do, and when that didn't work, we did everything we were not suppose to do. We stressed about it, we ignored it. We bribed, we praised, we cajoled.
We hid the healthy stuff in other stuff. It works, but she can't drink a smoothie everyday.
I fought the picky kid and she won. Now, I just ignore; however, my line is drawn at making separate meals. I am not a restaurant.
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Post by Malarky on Jan 22, 2014 16:11:57 GMT -5
I'm a horrible parent. I serve pretty healthy food, made from scratch.
Dinner is dinner, if you don't eat it, breakfast is coming. Sandwiches and cereal are not an option.
I always promised to sob hysterically at the funeral if they perished before morning.
Knock on wood, no one has died yet.
I do make some allowances. Neither kid likes cooked veggies, so I generally serve them raw. Not a hardship. And they do have some foods they just can't abide, so I make sure that there is always something they eat at each meal.
And as a result of a temper tantrum I threw a few years ago, whoever cooks dinner gets a thank you from the rest. They even reprimand their friends who dine here if they neglect to acknowledge the efforts of the cook.
I'm the mother, not the short order cook.
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Post by Sunnyday on Jan 22, 2014 16:12:30 GMT -5
Boiled hot dogs are nasty. Pretty much any meat is bad boiled. Meat should be prepared over open flames, or in a pan over open flames. The carcinogens you get from searing the meat are the good part. LOL, I grew up on boiled hot dogs. Or fried. There was no such thing as grill where I am from and I don't think anyone ever thought of putting it in the oven. Boilded hot dogs and mashed potatoes were my one of my favorites food boiled, grilled or fried...it's all good. Just never heat them in a microwave, they explode.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 22, 2014 16:15:24 GMT -5
I'm a horrible parent. I serve pretty healthy food, made from scratch.
Dinner is dinner, if you don't eat it, breakfast is coming. Sandwiches and cereal are not an option.
I always promised to sob hysterically at the funeral if they perished before morning.
Knock on wood, no one has died yet.
I do make some allowances. Neither kid likes cooked veggies, so I generally serve them raw. Not a hardship. And they do have some foods they just can't abide, so I make sure that there is always something they eat at each meal.
And as a result of a temper tantrum I threw a few years ago, whoever cooks dinner gets a thank you from the rest. They even reprimand their friends who dine here if they neglect to acknowledge the efforts of the cook.
I'm the mother, not the short order cook. That's very Jewish mother of you.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Jan 22, 2014 16:19:17 GMT -5
Dang! According to all of this, my mom was a big meanie. She fixed dinner. We ate it. No complaining/whining was allowed. No substitutes were offered. It was a time to sit and discuss your day and a time when my father, who worked two jobs, was usually home. She wasn't about to have that time disturbed with picky kids. She also didn't shove the food down our throats. If we didn't eat what was prepared in a reasonable amount of time, our plate was removed and we were excused. If you ate your dinner, you got a snack later. If you didn't eat your dinner, you got no snack. It was pretty simple.
If I was a mom now, I can't imagine making my kids eat stuff they hated. I don't, as an adult, eat stuff I don't like so I can't see myself forcing my kid to "do as I say and not as I do". But? I lived and I developed good eating habits.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 16:40:09 GMT -5
I like a good hot dog every now and then. Boiled Oscar Meyer, not so much. Hot dogs, Kraft and Spagetti O's is pretty much the entire diet of DH's niece and nephew. MIL can't comprehend why Gwen doesn't eat the same way. hot dogs must be all beef and cooked until the skin is crispy and they kind of plump up....my kids will only eat kraft mac and cheese - if it's not day-glo orange they don't like it. they eat enough other healthy stuff (my 18 year old was whining earlier because I finished the broccoli) that some 'crap' won't kill them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 16:47:01 GMT -5
we've had this whole discussion before....unless as an adult you make and eat things that you don't like but someone else does, I don't really see what the big deal is with making one extra thing at a meal to replace something a kid doesn't like.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jan 22, 2014 16:49:49 GMT -5
I'm practially a vegetarian except that I eat fish. I often say I'm a vegetarian... BECAUSE I don't eat FISH. LOL. It's just easier than having that conversation with people I don't know.
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Post by milee on Jan 22, 2014 16:57:46 GMT -5
I'm practially a vegetarian except that I eat fish. I often say I'm a vegetarian... BECAUSE I don't eat FISH. LOL. It's just easier than having that conversation with people I don't know. My sister's husband really only ate a few "white" foods. White bread, tortillas, popcorn, cheese pizza, chicken noodle soup, cheese (Ok, that's not always white.) He had no problem eating animals for ethical reasons and loved chicken broth, so it wasn't that he was a vegetarian, just an incredibly picky eater but thought it was easier to tell people vegetarian because then they'd be more likely to serve him something from the white list. Try to serve him a plate of vegetables or a piece of fruit and he'd act like you were trying to kill him...
For the poster who asked if as an adult you have to cook meals that you don't like - um, yes, I think most of us who are parents do. In trying to provide balance, nutrition and rotate in things that different people in the family like, I often have to cook - and eat - stuff I'm not especially fond of. Unless everybody in the family likes the exact same food and you don't ever throw in any variety, then there are going to be a few things that get thrown into the mix that aren't favorites.
A few of my friends address this by having 5-10 set meals they prepare and serve over and over, but not only do I think that's not usually a way to get good nutrition, it's incredibly boring. Guess if you like variety like I do, that does mean some compromises.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 22, 2014 16:59:39 GMT -5
Why stop there, why not let each member of a household plan their own menu for the week, and make custom meals for each of them? Oh, because I'm a parent not a personal chef. I make dinner. Everyone is welcome to eat it or not. If they don't like what I make, they go hungry. I'll try to keep their preferences in mind when planning meals, but I don't get to eat only my favorite foods everyday, I'll be damned if I'm going to increase meal prep time so the kids can.
If I'm a heartless bastard that's ruining their childhood, they're welcome to try and get emancipated at 14 or 15, get a job, get their own place, and eat whatever the hell they want. Seriously, I'll help them fill out the paperwork, and testify in court that I'm an asshole and they're intelligent, motivated, and responsible enough not to have to deal with me.
Or, they can start making all the meals, and then within reason, they can control what we eat.
Those are the only two options, other than shutting up and eating what I make.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 22, 2014 17:03:00 GMT -5
....unless as an adult you make and eat things that you don't like but someone else does
I make corned beef for DH. His grandmother used to make it all the time so he has fond memories of it. I compromise and make it once a year for St Patty's Day. I'm not a huge fan of it but DH appreciates the gesture. Freaking stinks up the house, that's another one I only make it once a year.
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Post by milee on Jan 22, 2014 17:06:19 GMT -5
....unless as an adult you make and eat things that you don't like but someone else does
I make corned beef for DH. His grandmother used to make it all the time so he has fond memories of it. I compromise and make it once a year for St Patty's Day. I'm not a huge fan of it but DH appreciates the gesture. Freaking stinks up the house, that's another one I only make it once a year. I know it's much colder where you live, but have you tried cooking the stinky stuff outside? I regularly leave the crockpot on the porch to cook so it doesn't heat up the house. Once or twice I've even put the portable burner/hot plate out on the sidewalk and let something cook out there. Sounds weird, but maybe you could try that and not have it stink up the house?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 17:16:30 GMT -5
I've given up with my picky eater and it kind of sucks because he's starting to have a weight problem and I think it's because he's such a carbaholic (of course, I was too at his age and was skinny as a rail).
He's 11, so if he doesn't like what we're eating, he'll make himself something else, which is fine. I ask him to try things and he is getting better. He's started eating hamburgers last year which was huge for us since they're such a common grill out menu item. We'd go to summer parties and all he'd eat was chips.
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Post by Sunnyday on Jan 22, 2014 17:40:38 GMT -5
I routinely eat things I don't like, because my husband sets the menu. And he takes it very personally if you complain about the food. But, the jury is out on whether I'm an adult or not, so I'm not sure my opinion matters.
My husband routinely nags me about eating cake for breakfast
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Post by midjd on Jan 22, 2014 17:59:23 GMT -5
Mmm...cake...
We plan to do baby led weaning so we should be able to expose DD to different tastes/textures early. DH and I were both incredibly picky kids...MIL catered to DH while my mom was the "you'll sit there til you try a bite" type (I fell asleep at the dinner table many times!)
I don't think either extreme is good...DH was 300lbs in HS and I'm a good 3" shorter than anyone else in my family (possibly due to surviving on spaghetti and PBJ from ages 4-12).
As an adult I'll eat about anything...DH is still pretty picky, although he is at least willing to try most things. Hopefully DD is more adventurous than either of us were.
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Post by bookkeeper on Jan 22, 2014 18:10:28 GMT -5
Our DS#1 used to complain about the variety of food served in our home. I got tired of listening so, I signed a check blank and sent him to the grocery store for a week's worth of groceries. Win win for him. He got to drive and buy the food he wanted to eat. Win win for me. I got someone else to do the meal planning and shopping for the week.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 22, 2014 18:18:02 GMT -5
If you give kids the choice... they'll feast on chips and chocolate at the expense of proper food.
I removed the choice and made the eating decisions for them, to keep them healthy
We did struggle with greens... and for a while there it was frozen peas, carrots and fruit with everything...but we got through it. I was never going to turn dinner time into a big performance of who likes what...or separate meals.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 18:22:52 GMT -5
If you give kids the choice... they'll feast on chips and chocolate at the expense of proper food. I removed the choice and made the eating decisions for them, to keep them healthy We did struggle with greens... and for a while there it was frozen peas, carrots and fruit with everything...but we got through it. I was never going to turn dinner time into a big performance of who likes what...or separate meals. how can they feast on chips and chocolate if they aren't in the house? and I'm not sure why making one extra dish translates to creating another entire meal for a kid. seriously, is it that much trouble to boil some noodles if the kid doesn't like beef? my oldest loves calmari...there's no way on this earth that I'm eating it. oldest 2 like salmon, again I'm not eating it. oldest doesn't eat meat - should I force her to since I should only cook one thing?
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 22, 2014 18:44:17 GMT -5
I don't force the kids to eat anything. One of their options is always to go hungry. I don't make custom meals either though. If they go through a vegan phase hamburger night is going to be a little rough. They can eat extra salad or something.
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Post by sesfw on Jan 22, 2014 19:02:45 GMT -5
Hmmmm I realize my growing up and meals were forever ago but I was raised in the 40s and 50s and funds were very tight. If I didn't like what was on the table I was allowed to either sit there until I did like it or go to bed without. I was required to at least taste everything. Breaking the fast the next morning was about 12 hours away. I still remember the 'discussion' about green onions in salad. This was a long time before crock pots and microwaves. Did have a pressure cooker but that was used for canning, not cooking meals.
DH was raised the same way by Arkansas farming people. DD was raised the same way in the 60s and 70s. Obviously there are things I don't like, DH didn't like, DD doesn't like. As adults we can choose. DD learned to make balanced meals and her adult kids for the most part eat well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 19:10:52 GMT -5
I don't force the kids to eat anything. One of their options is always to go hungry. I don't make custom meals either though. If they go through a vegan phase hamburger night is going to be a little rough. They can eat extra salad or something. so if you were a vegetarian you would cook and eat meat? or is it just the kids that have no choice in the matter?
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 22, 2014 19:11:50 GMT -5
If I was a vegetarian I would slap myself for being stupid, because meat is friggin delicious.
The kids can decide to be vegetarian, piscatarian, or whatever else, when they're the ones paying for groceries.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 22, 2014 19:58:14 GMT -5
regularly leave the crockpot on the porch to cook so it doesn't heat up the house.
That's an idea. Since I only make it once a year it's not a huge deal but damn does it have to smell so much? It might be off the menu this year, it depends on how sensitive I am to smells, I have a pretty low tolerance right now. He may have to go out for his corned beef this year. I was required to at least taste everything. .
That's how I approach it. I've trained myself to like beans and broccoli by constantly introducing myself to it and trying it. It doesn't work for everything, I still hate eggs for example, but it's not impossible to develop tastes for some foods you "don't like". Plus it's good manners, if someone takes the time to cook for you, in general you should at least try it. Unless it's creamed beef (not the same as chipped beef or "sh!t on a shingle), then all bets are off. That stuff is worse than corned beef.
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Post by doxieluvr on Jan 22, 2014 20:14:08 GMT -5
I don't have kids but I'd have used my parent's method. I would cook what I wanted and to those that whined about what it was would be told that children are starving in China and they need to eat their God damned food that I've prepared and served! None of us were malnourished or died but our dog was very fat. Ehh, I was the child that would have told you, "never mind,I am not hungry". I would go days without eating. My mother had high hopes I would out grow my pickiness but no such luck yet. I try not to be vocal about it and when it comes to picking restaurants, I always say I will find something to eat. Sometimes it's dessert, but more often than not it's a plain cheeseburger, with just cheese and ketchup.
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