Why don't news people stick to the news.

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531512/Outrage-MSNBC-panelists-make-Mitt-Romneys-adopted-black-grandchild-punchline-joke.html

Did we lose the way somewhere, I find most "news" as opinion pieces now, not news. Who does this and thinks it's cool.

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A little rich white guy adopts poor African American kid humor is funny. madonna and Angelina heard their share when they went to Africa to hand pick the kids whose life they would change.

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It's easier to make a joke about the "lone black person in the GOP" than to actually report credible news.

I especially like the way that one of the idiots involved is using the "if you have a problem with it then YOU are the racist one!" excuse. Stay classy MSNBC!

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Dec 31, 2013 12:51:30 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

A little rich white guy adopts poor African American kid humor is funny. madonna and Angelina heard their share when they went to Africa to hand pick the kids whose life they would change.

For the record...it's Mitt's grandchild. He didn't "hand pick" anything. Now, yes...I'm sure his kids aren't hurting for money but it's still a lame attempt at humor...or to take a jab at the GOP.

[The Captain]

Yea, I saw this.  It's just stupid and insensitive. 

But IMHO news reporters stopped reporting news at least 20 years ago and just went to opinion pieces.

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Dec 31, 2013 12:54:18 GMT -5 @financialtexan said:

Dec 31, 2013 12:51:30 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

A little rich white guy adopts poor African American kid humor is funny. madonna and Angelina heard their share when they went to Africa to hand pick the kids whose life they would change.

For the record...it's Mitt's grandchild. He didn't "hand pick" anything. Now, yes...I'm sure his kids aren't hurting for money but it's still a lame attempt at humor...or to take a jab at the GOP.

It wasn't funny because MSNBC talking heads are not funny people.   They should let Jon Stewart do do the jokes.

[billisonboard]

Why don't news people stick to the news.

A Sunday episode of MSNBC's political commentary show ... (from the link in the OP, emphasis added)

If you want news, you shouldn't go to a political commentary show.

... joked Dean Obeidallah ... (from the link in the OP)

And especially ones who have panelists who are not news people.

Dean Obeidallah (born 1969; Arabic: دين عبيدالله‎) is an American comedian ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Obeidallah‎

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We have lost the ability to distinguish news from commentary ... from entertainment...

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MSNBC is all comedy all the time.

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Do you know how many times a week I  feel compelled to point out the lack of evidence and logical fallacy in the BLOGs that people post on facebook as conclusive news... 

It really scares me sometimes...

[workpublic]

We have lost the ability to distinguish news from commentary ... from entertainment...

words to remember next time rush/hannity/beck infuriates people.

A Sunday episode of MSNBC's political commentary show .

so it's ok now for smug haters to use an innocent baby to make derisive political commentary?

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If a media outlet was started that only reported the news, it would probably fail on the first day because the only 1 person watching it would be me.   You can't stir up a big audience that will sell commercial time by merely reporting the facts.    

[billisonboard]

Dec 31, 2013 14:47:35 GMT -5 workpublic said:

...so it's ok now for smug haters to use an innocent baby to make derisive political commentary?

That would be a boring discussion with (almost?) all coming down on the side that it isn't okay.  Fortunately, the OP didn't go there.  This discussion of whether the American people have lost sight of what is "news" and what is "commentary" at least as some potential.  Personally, I think that it was never true that the majority of people understood the difference in a meaningful way.

[Opti]

Actually I'd like a fact based channel, but it wouldn't be a big sell.
That's why we can't escape Brittany, Miley Cyrus, or Bieber.
The media milks them for views and their own coffers.



Sounds like a tasteless thing to say, but I don't want to
actually read an article on it.   The quickest way to
get your 15 minutes of fame seems to be saying something tasteless
about a celebrity, family members of famous people, or minorities.

[billisonboard]

All one has to do is look at what little is being posted on the P&M bored ( ) the past couple of weeks, as well as the topics which are being talked about, to realize that a political commentary show would have to be really struggling to find something/anything to talk about right now.

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If I see one more picture of Miley swinging on that wrecking ball I'm going to do an Elvis and shoot the TV.

[Opti]

True. Its rerun and dig up old argument season.

[Opti]

"If I see one more picture of Miley swinging on that wrecking ball I'm going to do an Elvis and shoot the TV."

Good thing about the Internet is your exposure to that can be a little less
but you still get pics of Miley and the current Brittany show pic.

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a political commentary show would have to be really struggling to find something/anything to talk about right now.

bho is almost a has-been so isn't news-worthy.

If a media outlet was started that only reported the news, it would probably fail on the first day because the only 1 person watching it would be me. You can't stir up a big audience that will sell commercial time by merely reporting the facts.

[Value Buy]

Dec 31, 2013 14:20:35 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Why don't news people stick to the news.

A Sunday episode of MSNBC's political commentary show ... (from the link in the OP, emphasis added)

If you want news, you shouldn't go to a political commentary show.

... joked Dean Obeidallah ... (from the link in the OP)

And especially ones who have panelists who are not news people.

Dean Obeidallah (born 1969; Arabic: دين عبيدالله‎) is an American comedian ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Obeidallah‎

A big part of the problem is it was on a show hosted by a bi African-white woman, Mellissa Perry who is supposedly very happy with her racial

make up.

And yet makes fun of a white Republican (rino) billionaire who probably had no say in the adoption (or cared whether he had a say, either)

I am sure if Rush had did a nasty piece on this it would have multiple threads keeping mhhmm very busy.

[billisonboard]

Dec 31, 2013 15:41:56 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

... A big part of the problem is ... bi African-white woman, ... a white ...

Oh, and I thought the problem was that it was just rude.

[Value Buy]

Dec 31, 2013 15:48:13 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Dec 31, 2013 15:41:56 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

... A big part of the problem is ... bi African-white woman, ... a white ...

Oh, and I thought the problem was that it was just rude.

Well, it was, but part of the problem as I saw it, was being presented on who's show this was being discussed. Mellissa should have been a LOT MORE understanding of the situation.

Similar to the Robin Roberts fiasco where she came out and thanked her life partner and she was burned in the media for hiding her from the press when Robin did her big public program on her fight with cancer and how great her family members were, with no mention of her life partner.

I imagine the National Enquirer was rather put out on that one, as well as Fox News 

[billisonboard]

Dec 31, 2013 15:56:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

... the Robin Roberts fiasco ...
I imagine the National Enquirer was rather put out on that one, as well as Fox News 

Got me at a real disadvantage here. I have no interest in the personal lives of people who are on television.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-msnbc-mitt-romney-attack-article-1.1562152

[mmhmm]

I'll merge this thread with the previously started thread on the same subject in Current Events.  - mmhmm, P&M Moderator

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Dec 31, 2013 14:52:33 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

If a media outlet was started that only reported the news, it would probably fail on the first day because the only 1 person watching it would be me.   You can't stir up a big audience that will sell commercial time by merely reporting the facts.    

Exactly...what I think this issue boils down to is that there were no news stories going on at the time, so MSNBC "created" a news story to fill the void.  There's only so many times the news people can talk about New Years Eve crap before they know people are changing the channel 

[Tennesseer]

Dec 31, 2013 15:13:26 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

If I see one more picture of Miley swinging on that wrecking ball I'm going to do an Elvis and shoot the TV.

Read books.  You are welcome.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 31, 2013 15:56:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Dec 31, 2013 15:48:13 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oh, and I thought the problem was that it was just rude.

Well, it was, but part of the problem as I saw it, was being presented on who's show this was being discussed. Mellissa should have been a LOT MORE understanding of the situation.

Similar to the Robin Roberts fiasco where she came out and thanked her life partner and she was burned in the media for hiding her from the press when Robin did her big public program on her fight with cancer and how great her family members were, with no mention of her life partner.

I imagine the National Enquirer was rather put out on that one, as well as Fox News 

Where was Robin Roberts "burned in the media for hiding her from the press"?

[djAdvocate]

melissa doesn't impress me that much as a commentator.  but then again, neither does hannity.

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531860/Coffee-shop-baristas-bikinis-fire-calling-customer-huge-fat-b-telling-save-world-hunger-shooting-yourself.html


Along the same lines a little bit, no where does it state in here what Jessica said first. It seems Jessica may have thrown the first punch  but that is not mentioned. Heck yah i am going to defend myself. I am going to have to stop reading stuff or my mind will explode.