Finally, the overwhelmingly black on white "Knockout" game

[Tennesseer]

Dec 27, 2013 22:44:01 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

I lied. I am going to mention one thing that made that a sad little post.....

"As a middle aged white guy, I know it's open season on me for black yutes-- this isn't racist, it's just a fact."

Going out on a limb since I don't know what a "yute" is, I'll say that's as ridculous as me saying as a young black man, I know it's open season on my son and anyone that looks like him, for middle age white guys. That's not racist... Its just a fact.

I've never thought that, but maybe I should rethink a few things.

One must always consider the source of such statements.

[zibazinski]

What's a yute?

[billisonboard]

[mmhmm]

No, no, @pinkcshmere!  You just keep right on being you and let certain others be ... otherwise.  You're doin' jus' fine, girl!  We're all people.  I don't care if we're green with pink spots.  We're freakin' people, dammit!  Let those who want to think otherwise pound sand!

[mmhmm]

Dec 28, 2013 0:35:26 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

What's a yute?

Probably a figment of someone's vivid imagination.

[Opti]

"the progressive's agenda doesn't believe that hate crimes can only be white on black. they know that's not true. they do however downplay, ignore and fail to label them that way. especially the part of the media and prosecutors that back the progressive agenda.

why did holder label this one(lone white manchild vs groups of black menchildren in most of the others) a hate crime and none of the others?
"

I know not of these progessive agendas you speak of because you haven't
posted any proof and I do not listen to talk radio of any kind especially
political and my listening habits on TV are similar. So I don't even know if
this thing various conservative posters continually post is even believed
by one live human who has professed this view in a public arena.


As someone stated, why do you think Holder did or did not do anything?
I think some people get so caught up hating on a certain individual they
act as if their reach is far bigger than it really is. Personally I am getting
totally annoyed by any organization that lies about Obama and Bush to get
clickable views. I don't remember it being quite this bad with Bush, but
perhaps I just mumbled damn idiots and went on with my life. I know Obama
and Bush have both been invoked by companies selling mortgages, credit,
and various other products. Some of the financial newsletters verge on slander
and are so misleading I'm about to try to unsubscribe even though I don't
think it will work. "Two words Obama doesn't want you to know", "Obama's
mistress" and other weirdness have populated their subject lines. Its always
much ado about nothing just like conservatives tilting at small or imagined
progressive windmills IMO. P&M and Current Events is the closest I get to
talking heads. Sometimes it feels too close!

[Opti]

"As a middle aged white guy, I know it's open season on me for black yutes-- this isn't racist, it's just a fact."


Your false beliefs are going to get you jailed or killed if you don't
start dialing down the drama in your life. Illinois is not Chicago.
You could have just told them to stay away and that repeating
walking up to a car might encourage a Floridian to shoot them.
Simple.



I have no idea how prevalent this knockout game really is, but
people have died and been attacked in NYC and some in NJ.
I really don't expect it to happen here in Central NJ but attitude-wise
I do not expect to attract such an individual into my life. From a
metaphysical standpoint you are basically begging for it. If your
thoughts were more aligned it would have happened by now.

I am that I am, is metaphysical for what I accept and believe for
myself I become and experience. Do you really want to keep affirming
and believing you are a potential victim?

[EVT1]

Well if anyone wants to know why this guy was charged for a hate crime....

     Barrett filmed the attack on his cellphone, prosecutors said. And in other videos on his phone, he used a derogatory word describing black people and suggested he “found the perfect African American suspect” to go after, according to the federal criminal complaint

     “This is something so egregious — from the view that you have an elderly black man seriously injured and another guy actually on tape talking about what he wanted to do, that for federal prosecutors why wouldn’t they get involved?” Buckley said. “This is an opportunity to send a message of deterrence against hate attacks.”

     In one of the videos, Barrett allegedly described his motivation: “The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?”

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/27/22074834-texan-charged-with-hate-crime-for-knockout-game-hit-denied-bail?lite

Someone was begging to be made an example of and was obliged.  He committed a textbook example of a hate crime with digital evidence to back it up. 

*Note- hate crimes are bullshit IMO.  If the punishment for committing a crime against a particular person based on the criteria are greater, then all that says to me is that the punishment for the crime against the average Joe is too low.

[mmhmm]

Dec 28, 2013 2:28:12 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Well if anyone wants to know why this guy was charged for a hate crime....

     Barrett filmed the attack on his cellphone, prosecutors said. And in other videos on his phone, he used a derogatory word describing black people and suggested he “found the perfect African American suspect” to go after, according to the federal criminal complaint

     “This is something so egregious — from the view that you have an elderly black man seriously injured and another guy actually on tape talking about what he wanted to do, that for federal prosecutors why wouldn’t they get involved?” Buckley said. “This is an opportunity to send a message of deterrence against hate attacks.”

     In one of the videos, Barrett allegedly described his motivation: “The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?”

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/27/22074834-texan-charged-with-hate-crime-for-knockout-game-hit-denied-bail?lite

Someone was begging to be made an example of and was obliged.  He committed a textbook example of a hate crime with digital evidence to back it up. 

*Note- hate crimes are bullshit IMO.  If the punishment for committing a crime against a particular person based on the criteria are greater, then all that says to me is that the punishment for the crime against the average Joe is too low.

I'd read that article, EVT.  There's no doubt this fool confirmed the charges against him with his own words.

[EVT1]

 " when the "knockout game" is spotted, there are a lot of us out there committed to shooting the assailant(s).

Now there are a lot of people that will be in the cell next to and doing more time than assailant(s)- FL or not.  There are some people that need to have their permits revoked.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 28, 2013 2:00:25 GMT -5 Opti said:

"As a middle aged white guy, I know it's open season on me for black yutes-- this isn't racist, it's just a fact."


Your false beliefs are going to get you jailed or killed if you don't
start dialing down the drama in your life. Illinois is not Chicago.
You could have just told them to stay away and that repeating
walking up to a car might encourage a Floridian to shoot them.
Simple.



I have no idea how prevalent this knockout game really is, but
people have died and been attacked in NYC and some in NJ.
I really don't expect it to happen here in Central NJ but attitude-wise
I do not expect to attract such an individual into my life. From a
metaphysical standpoint you are basically begging for it. If your
thoughts were more aligned it would have happened by now.

I am that I am, is metaphysical for what I accept and believe for
myself I become and experience. Do you really want to keep affirming
and believing you are a potential victim?

Yes.  Otherwise there ìs no justification to maybe shoot and kill anyone who walks by him under Florida's SYG law.

[EVT1]

Yet another reason SYG is a bad law- the amount of misinformation surrounding it that people may and sometimes do act on.

Granted FL's version is the absolute worst on the books when it comes to proving someone was not acting in self defense, it would still in no way absolve someone from shooting an unarmed third person that was seen punching out another one.  This is why you have people like George Zimmerman- who think (and in his case correctly so) that they have greater legal authority to use lethal force than police officers do. 

[Tennesseer]

Dec 27, 2013 16:57:35 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 27, 2013 13:51:00 GMT -5 workpublic said:

Seems the 'knockout game' ìs a white invented thing (based upon pictures of the criminals). You will have to Google the killers' names and pictures yourself. But here is a link about the first 'knockout game' victim who who were convicted for the September, 1992 murder.


wrong. that was a robbery and a stabbing. don't know why it is listed as the first KO game in wiki.


this charge is just more of the racial divisiveness(state racism?) coming out of the current admin in DC.

Maybe because this 1992 newspaper article about the killing called it the 'knockout game' and the object of the game back in 1992 was to knock someone unconscious with one punch?

Death of student linked to brutal 'knockout' game

workpublic - no comment?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 28, 2013 1:05:25 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 28, 2013 11:13:57 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 28, 2013 2:00:25 GMT -5 Opti said:

"As a middle aged white guy, I know it's open season on me for black yutes-- this isn't racist, it's just a fact."


Your false beliefs are going to get you jailed or killed if you don't
start dialing down the drama in your life. Illinois is not Chicago.
You could have just told them to stay away and that repeating
walking up to a car might encourage a Floridian to shoot them.
Simple.



I have no idea how prevalent this knockout game really is, but
people have died and been attacked in NYC and some in NJ.
I really don't expect it to happen here in Central NJ but attitude-wise
I do not expect to attract such an individual into my life. From a
metaphysical standpoint you are basically begging for it. If your
thoughts were more aligned it would have happened by now.

I am that I am, is metaphysical for what I accept and believe for
myself I become and experience. Do you really want to keep affirming
and believing you are a potential victim?

Yes.  Otherwise there ìs no justification to maybe shoot and kill anyone who walks by him under Florida's SYG law.

Yeah- amazing though that in spite of the fact that I did feel threatened as two black yutes got out of their car and approached me- I managed to control my itchy trigger finger and not kill anyone.  The interesting thing is that the gun saved their lives.  If I didn't have it, when the passenger passed behind my car, I would have thrown it into reverse, rammed him between the cars, and took off out around the other cars and reported it later as an assault thwarted.  Having the gun gave me options.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 28, 2013 2:36:46 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Dec 28, 2013 2:28:12 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Well if anyone wants to know why this guy was charged for a hate crime....

     Barrett filmed the attack on his cellphone, prosecutors said. And in other videos on his phone, he used a derogatory word describing black people and suggested he “found the perfect African American suspect” to go after, according to the federal criminal complaint

     “This is something so egregious — from the view that you have an elderly black man seriously injured and another guy actually on tape talking about what he wanted to do, that for federal prosecutors why wouldn’t they get involved?” Buckley said. “This is an opportunity to send a message of deterrence against hate attacks.”

     In one of the videos, Barrett allegedly described his motivation: “The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?”

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/27/22074834-texan-charged-with-hate-crime-for-knockout-game-hit-denied-bail?lite

Someone was begging to be made an example of and was obliged.  He committed a textbook example of a hate crime with digital evidence to back it up. 

*Note- hate crimes are bullshit IMO.  If the punishment for committing a crime against a particular person based on the criteria are greater, then all that says to me is that the punishment for the crime against the average Joe is too low.

I'd read that article, EVT.  There's no doubt this fool confirmed the charges against him with his own words.

He committed the crime.  Though I'm opposed to "hate" and other thought crimes, since we have the laws, they should be enforced and he should clearly be charged. That is not the question.  The question is why- after so many black on white hate crimes- just as filmed and quoted, why is this the first in years of this "game" to be charged.  The answer is that our AG is a racist piece of shit, and charging THIS crime deflects from the meticulously documented, DOJ acknowledged- though rarely pursued, rampant black on white hate crimes nation-wide under Obama.  whitegirlbleedalot.com/

[mmhmm]

Dec 30, 2013 13:34:53 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Dec 28, 2013 2:36:46 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I'd read that article, EVT.  There's no doubt this fool confirmed the charges against him with his own words.

He committed the crime.  Though I'm opposed to "hate" and other thought crimes, since we have the laws, they should be enforced and he should clearly be charged. That is not the question.  The question is why- after so many black on white hate crimes- just as filmed and quoted, why is this the first in years of this "game" to be charged.  The answer is that our AG is a racist piece of shit, and charging THIS crime deflects from the meticulously documented, DOJ acknowledged- though rarely pursued, rampant black on white hate crimes nation-wide under Obama.  whitegirlbleedalot.com/

No.  The answer is:  This idiot gave them the case in a ribbon-bedecked basket.  He flat said he was doing this because the victim was black.  That doesn't happen in most cases.  Most people aren't as stupid as this fool.

[EVT1]

Dec 30, 2013 13:51:33 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Dec 30, 2013 13:34:53 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

He committed the crime.  Though I'm opposed to "hate" and other thought crimes, since we have the laws, they should be enforced and he should clearly be charged. That is not the question.  The question is why- after so many black on white hate crimes- just as filmed and quoted, why is this the first in years of this "game" to be charged.  The answer is that our AG is a racist piece of shit, and charging THIS crime deflects from the meticulously documented, DOJ acknowledged- though rarely pursued, rampant black on white hate crimes nation-wide under Obama.  whitegirlbleedalot.com/

No.  The answer is:  This idiot gave them the case in a ribbon-bedecked basket.  He flat said he was doing this because the victim was black.  That doesn't happen in most cases.  Most people aren't as stupid as this fool.

Come on- you really don't want to hear opinions from a website called whitegirlbleedalot.com?  

[mmhmm]

ROFL!  Umm, no, EVT.  I won't even click on a link to a website called "whitegirlbleedalot.com".  Not on your life!

[Tennesseer]

Dec 30, 2013 13:29:02 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Dec 28, 2013 11:13:57 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Yes.  Otherwise there ìs no justification to maybe shoot and kill anyone who walks by him under Florida's SYG law.

The interesting thing is that the gun saved their lives.  If I didn't have it, when the passenger passed behind my car, I would have thrown it into reverse, rammed him between the cars, and took off out around the other cars and reported it later as an assault thwarted.  Having the gun gave me options.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 30, 2013 13:51:33 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Dec 30, 2013 13:34:53 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

He committed the crime.  Though I'm opposed to "hate" and other thought crimes, since we have the laws, they should be enforced and he should clearly be charged. That is not the question.  The question is why- after so many black on white hate crimes- just as filmed and quoted, why is this the first in years of this "game" to be charged.  The answer is that our AG is a racist piece of shit, and charging THIS crime deflects from the meticulously documented, DOJ acknowledged- though rarely pursued, rampant black on white hate crimes nation-wide under Obama.  whitegirlbleedalot.com/

No.  The answer is:  This idiot gave them the case in a ribbon-bedecked basket.  He flat said he was doing this because the victim was black.  That doesn't happen in most cases.  Most people aren't as stupid as this fool.

And the idiot showed his self-made video (and said comments) to an off-duty fire investigator, a member of the town's city government (fire department). 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 30, 2013 14:40:02 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

ROFL!  Umm, no, EVT.  I won't even click on a link to a website called "whitegirlbleedalot.com".  Not on your life!

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 30, 2013 13:51:33 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Dec 30, 2013 13:34:53 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

He committed the crime.  Though I'm opposed to "hate" and other thought crimes, since we have the laws, they should be enforced and he should clearly be charged. That is not the question.  The question is why- after so many black on white hate crimes- just as filmed and quoted, why is this the first in years of this "game" to be charged.  The answer is that our AG is a racist piece of shit, and charging THIS crime deflects from the meticulously documented, DOJ acknowledged- though rarely pursued, rampant black on white hate crimes nation-wide under Obama.  whitegirlbleedalot.com/

No.  The answer is:  This idiot gave them the case in a ribbon-bedecked basket.  He flat said he was doing this because the victim was black.  That doesn't happen in most cases.  Most people aren't as stupid as this fool.

OK, I believe that you sincerely believe this. Can you provide an explanation as to why this "case in a ribbon-bedecked basket" was treated differently? Can you honestly say that the AG acted in good faith in this case?

And btw- it truly doesn't get any more ribbon bedecked than this. In fact, "When none of the defendants filed any response to the complaint or appeared in federal district court in Philadelphia to answer the suit, it appeared almost certain Justice would have prevailed by default. Instead, the department in May suddenly allowed the party and two of the three defendants to walk away. Against the third defendant, Minister King Samir Shabazz, it sought only an injunction barring him from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years—action that's already illegal under existing law."

online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970203550604574361071968458430



Give me the AG's good faith explanation for dropping this case that has NOTHING to do with race, or race relations?

[mmhmm]

For the record, I'm not clicking on any film that has that offensive title, either, AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP.  As to the second film, that's old news.

The AG hasn't had another case that was this blatantly obvious.  This guy handed it to them.  They'd be beyond foolish not to go for it.  The other cases of this type have been somewhat ambiguous as to motive.  This one isn't.  You're reading into it what you want to see.  I'm not.  I have no agenda in this.  You do.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

For the record, the AG had a case that was so blatant there was going to be a conviction by default (did you even read what I posted?) and he stepped in and stopped it.

For the record (again) a group of black thugs viciously beat a white couple- and police won't even release photos of the suspects even though it was captured on video.  They're trying their best to sweep the black on white crime wave under the rug...

www.100percentfedup.com/285-group-of-black-thugs-viciously-beat-white-couple-in-suspected-knockout-game-attack-police-refuse-to-release-pics-of-the-assailants

[Opti]

"Yeah- amazing though that in spite of the fact that I did feel threatened as two black yutes got out of their car and approached me- I managed to control my itchy trigger finger and not kill anyone. The interesting thing is that the gun saved their lives. If I didn't have it, when the passenger passed behind my car, I would have thrown it into reverse, rammed him between the cars, and took off out around the other cars and reported it later as an assault thwarted. Having the gun gave me options."

Really. You couldn't have just took off in your car before they approached you?
If you pin someone between cars and physically damage them you'd better hope
they are found with guns or knives on their persons as otherwise I think you'd
do jail time for provable assault.


BTW, you never said what they wanted. Did they ask for something? Tell you
your tail light was out? What? I may have had someone once knock on my
window to tell me my tailight was out. I think mine happened stopped at a
light somewhere.

[mmhmm]

Did any of those accused actually admit, on tape or in person, the violence in which they were involved was perpetrated because they didn't like white people?  Did they?  Did they say they were going out to "get" a white person?  From what I can read in the above article, Mr. Adams refused to be interviewed by the police and didn't officially report the incident until the next day.  Additionally, this attack happened on December 20th (a bit over a week ago).  I'll wait a bit to see what the police come up with if it's all the same to you.  Mr. Barrett was arrested on December 26th.  The crime of which he's accused took place on November 24th.

There's no comparison in the evidence between this case and the one against Barrett.  Barrett flat admitted what he was doing and why.  He was stupid enough to all but convict himself. The state of Texas is handling it.  Mr. Holder isn't there.  You've decided to place him there.  Because you say it doesn't make it so, AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP.  Believe me, it doesn't.  It's because of your bias, your spinning, and your outright misinformation so often supplied that I don't, for the most part, bother to read a great deal of what you post.  I'll seek out my own information, thank you very much.

[mmhmm]

Dec 31, 2013 9:54:05 GMT -5 Opti said:

"Yeah- amazing though that in spite of the fact that I did feel threatened as two black yutes got out of their car and approached me- I managed to control my itchy trigger finger and not kill anyone. The interesting thing is that the gun saved their lives. If I didn't have it, when the passenger passed behind my car, I would have thrown it into reverse, rammed him between the cars, and took off out around the other cars and reported it later as an assault thwarted. Having the gun gave me options."

Really. You couldn't have just took off in your car before they approached you?
If you pin someone between cars and physically damage them you'd better hope
they are found with guns or knives on their persons as otherwise I think you'd
do jail time for provable assault.


BTW, you never said what they wanted. Did they ask for something? Tell you
your tail light was out? What? I may have had someone once knock on my
window to tell me my tailight was out. I think mine happened stopped at a
light somewhere.

Imaginary "yutes" rarely ask questions, opti.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 31, 2013 9:54:05 GMT -5 Opti said:

"Yeah- amazing though that in spite of the fact that I did feel threatened as two black yutes got out of their car and approached me- I managed to control my itchy trigger finger and not kill anyone. The interesting thing is that the gun saved their lives. If I didn't have it, when the passenger passed behind my car, I would have thrown it into reverse, rammed him between the cars, and took off out around the other cars and reported it later as an assault thwarted. Having the gun gave me options."

Really. You couldn't have just took off in your car before they approached you?
If you pin someone between cars and physically damage them you'd better hope
they are found with guns or knives on their persons as otherwise I think you'd
do jail time for provable assault.


BTW, you never said what they wanted. Did they ask for something? Tell you
your tail light was out? What? I may have had someone once knock on my
window to tell me my tailight was out. I think mine happened stopped at a
light somewhere.

I don't have to hope for anything.  If you get out of your vehicle in a lane of traffic and approach another driver, your motives are not up to you- they're up to the person you're approaching.  It's an all-around bad idea.  And once they started yammering on about my driving- I didn't listen, I WATCHED-- where are their hands, and what are they doing?  I'd have done the same if they were talking about my tail light.  You can trust people that get out of their car and approach your vehicle.  I don't have the inclination to trust people who have already demonstrated extremely poor judgment.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 31, 2013 9:56:05 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Dec 31, 2013 9:54:05 GMT -5 Opti said:

"Yeah- amazing though that in spite of the fact that I did feel threatened as two black yutes got out of their car and approached me- I managed to control my itchy trigger finger and not kill anyone. The interesting thing is that the gun saved their lives. If I didn't have it, when the passenger passed behind my car, I would have thrown it into reverse, rammed him between the cars, and took off out around the other cars and reported it later as an assault thwarted. Having the gun gave me options."

Really. You couldn't have just took off in your car before they approached you?
If you pin someone between cars and physically damage them you'd better hope
they are found with guns or knives on their persons as otherwise I think you'd
do jail time for provable assault.


BTW, you never said what they wanted. Did they ask for something? Tell you
your tail light was out? What? I may have had someone once knock on my
window to tell me my tailight was out. I think mine happened stopped at a
light somewhere.

Imaginary "yutes" rarely ask questions, opti.

I filed a report- in case they went in with a different story, I wanted a record.