High capacity magazine gun propaganda- funny!

[EVT1]

So freaking stupid- has bad movie cliché written all over it.



Of course this happens every day FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR NRA FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR.......

Buy an assault rifle now or a 30 round pistol mag before it is too late   

[Tennesseer]

During the past 9 hours, the above crime recreation happened to 9 of the 14 homes on my cove.

[frankq]

Of course this happens every day FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR NRA FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR.......

It has happened, recently to a 70 something former police officer in Texas who needed to use two guns during a moving battle in his home after two thugs broke in....get over it......your agenda is "so freaking stupid"

[AGB]

Dec 18, 2013 2:11:36 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Buy an assault rifle now or a 30 round pistol mag before it is too late   

Solid advice.

I my m4, and while we're at it... I highly recommend the striplula. Ever had to wait half an hour for your barrel to cool down before putting your weapon in its case? Fun times, my friend... fun times.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 18, 2013 2:11:36 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

So freaking stupid- has bad movie cliché written all over it.



Of course this happens every day FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR NRA FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR.......

Buy an assault rifle now or a 30 round pistol mag before it is too late   

you're right- this ad is really bad for several reasons.  first of all, that guy unloaded six rounds into that guy at close range.  second, what moron would break into a house with live fire going on in it?  seriously.  and finally, why would a person not carry a second clip with him?

the situation doesn't seem remotely plausible to me.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

There's no such thing as a "high capacity" magazine- it's kind of like "assault rifle"- just a rhetorical invention to attempt to instill fear and have as many people running around wildly misinformed as the gun grabbers can get to.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 19, 2013 10:01:52 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

There's no such thing as a "high capacity" magazine- it's kind of like "assault rifle"- just a rhetorical invention to attempt to instill fear and have as many people running around wildly misinformed as the gun grabbers can get to.

The ad ìs pro-gun and pro-'high capacity magazine'.  

I must assume you did not watch the video.  It ìs strongly implied in the video the home owner and his family died as a result of the family gun not having enough bullets to take out the second intruder.  Otherwise you would not have posted "to attempt to instill fear and have as many people running around misinformed as the gun grabbers can get to."

[Tennesseer]

Forgetting for a moment the Founders’ intent as articulated in the Second Amendment and Article. I. Section. 8. of the Constitution, which clearly shows anything less than arms of military utility to be incompatible with that intent, a film company from Westlake Village, Calif., has produced a must-see video that demonstrates the real world dangers in something most people can readily identify with -- protecting our families and homes from violent predatory sociopaths.

MB Studio Productions’ “High Capacity Magazine PSA” provides a chilling unfolding of events in just over two minutes that demonstrates the “need” in a powerful and compelling drama. Everything about it, from the production values, to the writing, to the performances, is top notch, and this is something that gun rights advocates need to help make go viral.

It should also really drive home the insufferable and inexcusable arrogance of politicians, many who enjoy taxpayer-funded armed bodyguards who aren’t required to observe such restrictions with the firepower they deploy with. Such guns are evidently only classified by the government as “weapons of war” when they’re in the hands of “We the People.” Give them to the “Only Ones,” and they magically transmute into “personal defense weapons.”

Video demonstrates everyday danger of magazine capacity limits

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For home defense, I'm far more comfortable (and trained) in the use of a low rate of fire with high powered firearms.  This facilitates easy wall and furniture penetration.  Unchoked shotguns work great if your interior has semi-clear lines of fire.  Best to keep both on hand and within easy reach.  With multiple invaders seeing that first basket ball size exit wound is sometimes all the deterent that's needed.  High capacity magazines makes great "action" on a TV show, but I just can't see it defense wise. 

[Tennesseer]

Dec 19, 2013 13:53:35 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

For home defense, I'm far more comfortable (and trained) in the use of a low rate of fire with high powered firearms.  This facilitates easy wall and furniture penetration.  Unchoked shotguns work great if your interior has semi-clear lines of fire.  Best to keep both on hand and within easy reach.  With multiple invaders seeing that first basket ball size exit wound is sometimes all the deterent that's needed.  High capacity magazines makes great "action" on a TV show, but I just can't see it defense wise. 

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said: "There's no such thing as a "high capacity" magazine- it's kind of like "assault rifle"- just a rhetorical invention to attempt to instill fear and have as many people running around wildly misinformed as the gun grabbers can get to."

So who is correct here?

[Deleted]

Dec 19, 2013 16:00:48 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 19, 2013 13:53:35 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

For home defense, I'm far more comfortable (and trained) in the use of a low rate of fire with high powered firearms.  This facilitates easy wall and furniture penetration.  Unchoked shotguns work great if your interior has semi-clear lines of fire.  Best to keep both on hand and within easy reach.  With multiple invaders seeing that first basket ball size exit wound is sometimes all the deterrent that's needed.  High capacity magazines makes great "action" on a TV show, but I just can't see it defense wise. 

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said: "There's no such thing as a "high capacity" magazine- it's kind of like "assault rifle"- just a rhetorical invention to attempt to instill fear and have as many people running around wildly misinformed as the gun grabbers can get to."

So who is correct here?

I consider a high capacity magazine as one that has more storage than the standard one that comes with the gun, not some arbitrary amount bandied about by the liberal media. Bullets are bullets, the bigger and faster they travel, the less you need to do the job.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 19, 2013 17:28:20 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Dec 19, 2013 16:00:48 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

So who is correct here?

I consider a high capacity magazine as one that has more storage than the standard one that comes with the gun, not some arbitrary amount bandied about by the liberal media. Bullets are bullets, the bigger and faster they travel, the less you need to do the job.

So do high capacity magazines exist or not?

[EVT1]

Dec 19, 2013 17:28:20 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Dec 19, 2013 16:00:48 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

So who is correct here?

I consider a high capacity magazine as one that has more storage than the standard one that comes with the gun, not some arbitrary amount bandied about by the liberal media. Bullets are bullets, the bigger and faster they travel, the less you need to do the job.

I agree- if the magazine sticks out further than the original it is a high capacity magazine.

I can see the point of fighting back against arbitrary limits such as 5 rounds, that's silly.

What I think is worth getting rid of are 30,50,100,200 rounders.  No good reason to sell them or own them and the only time we ever hear about them are when they show up at mass shootings- because they are the go to equipment. 

Anyone in my house and I am grabbing the shotgun- not many burglars are up for a gun fight.  I bought a pump action for home defense because just the sound of it may be enough to send someone running.  That's the idea right?  I don't plan on redecorating my house unless there is no other option.

[Tennesseer]

So they exist.

[kent]

I agree- if the magazine sticks out further than the original it is a high capacity magazine.

Not exactly - it's a higher capacity

I can see the point of fighting back against arbitrary limits such as 5 rounds, that's silly.

So, where do we draw the line?  If a manufacturer makes a pistol the holds 15 rounds (not a high-capacity magazine because it doesn't "stick out" beyond the butt of the grip) is that OK?

What I think is worth getting rid of are 30,50,100,200 rounders.

I have no need for a thirty-round magazine but I do have concerns about the chipping away the anti-gun crowd continually engages in - first it's 30 then it's 25, and so on until the battle cry is "You only need one round to protect yourself and/or family."  Of course this would have to be a government approved round and I can only imagine what that would entail.

Anyone in my house and I am grabbing the shotgun

Very effective.  Just don't follow Biden's advice or you'll get convicted.....

[EVT1]

Don't worry this isn't Florida, I am only going to shoot someone if they are in the house and they are not frozen still or moving away.  And even then they would probably have to make a move.  I really do not want to live with killing anyone- and if I shoot them that's probably a given.

15 rounds is probably at the limit- my sig holds 13- and I know some glocks the cops use hold a few more.

But come on- 30?  Have you seen one of these stupid looking things?  Unless your plan is to shoot a bunch of people there is no reason for it- you can't carry it like that, you can't shoot right with it, what's the point?  Someone please explain why we have 30+ round pistol magazines.  I just don't get it.  And what about the 200 rounder for the AR-15?  That's silly- what's the point?  No need.  If you really want to enjoy a 200 round magazine a semi-auto rifle is no way to do it.

[Sum Dum Gai]

The 7 rounds he fires in the video might have been plenty if he wasn't closing his eyes on every shot.

[frankq]

I'll bet that this poor guy's wife wishes her husband had a gun and a high capacity mag ......

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/21/21996801-4-arrested-in-carjacking-and-shooting-death-outside-upscale-nj-mall?lite=

Yeah......it's all useless propaganda, because all the bad guys will just stop buying guns if we pass all these new laws. Americans need to stop being afraid of their own shadows. Many of you people need to stop making gun enthusiasts bad guys. There are enough bad guys in the world already. We don't need to manufacture more.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 21, 2013 12:21:11 GMT -5 frankq said:

I'll bet that this poor guy's wife wishes her husband had a gun and a high capacity mag ......

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/21/21996801-4-arrested-in-carjacking-and-shooting-death-outside-upscale-nj-mall?lite=

Yeah......it's all useless propaganda, because all the bad guys will just stop buying guns if we pass all these new laws. Americans need to stop being afraid of their own shadows. Many of you people need to stop making gun enthusiasts bad guys. There are enough bad guys in the world already. We don't need to manufacture more.

That only works if you have time to 'stand your ground'. It reads to me like they were ambushed. No time to pull out your gun with a high capacity magazine.

[frankq]

Yeah, there always seems to be a reason why it wouldn't have made a difference to you guys. There is no evidence to support your claim that he would not have had the couple of seconds it would have taken to pull a weapon. But if it makes you feel safer then so be it.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 21, 2013 16:07:48 GMT -5 frankq said:

Yeah, there always seems to be a reason why it wouldn't have made a difference to you guys. There is no evidence to support your claim that he would not have had the couple of seconds it would have taken to pull a weapon. But if it makes you feel safer then so be it.

Can you prove ìt would have/could have been otherwise?  Were you there? Describe what you witnessed  step-by-step please.  I am interested how ìt all went down.

[AGB]

Dec 21, 2013 16:12:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 21, 2013 16:07:48 GMT -5 frankq said:

Yeah, there always seems to be a reason why it wouldn't have made a difference to you guys. There is no evidence to support your claim that he would not have had the couple of seconds it would have taken to pull a weapon. But if it makes you feel safer then so be it.

Can you prove ìt would have/could have been otherwise?  Were you there? Describe what you witnessed  step-by-step please.  I am interested how ìt all went down.

As much as you can prove it couldn't have been otherwise, I'm guessing.

[frankq]

Dec 21, 2013 16:12:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 21, 2013 16:07:48 GMT -5 frankq said:

Yeah, there always seems to be a reason why it wouldn't have made a difference to you guys. There is no evidence to support your claim that he would not have had the couple of seconds it would have taken to pull a weapon. But if it makes you feel safer then so be it.

Can you prove ìt would have/could have been otherwise?  Were you there? Describe what you witnessed  step-by-step please.  I am interested how ìt all went down.

I have the same question for you since you made the statement initially that it would not have made a difference. Were you there? Describe what YOU witnessed step by step please. I too, am interested how it all went down......Obviously you know more that what information was supplied to police by the guy's wife....

[Tennesseer]

I would swear I posted "It reads to me..." and not that they were actually ambushed.

Oh yea...I did post "It reads to me...". Thst is an opinion of what I have read if you cannot figure it out.

[AGB]

Dec 21, 2013 13:33:41 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 21, 2013 12:21:11 GMT -5 frankq said:

I'll bet that this poor guy's wife wishes her husband had a gun and a high capacity mag ......

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/21/21996801-4-arrested-in-carjacking-and-shooting-death-outside-upscale-nj-mall?lite=

Yeah......it's all useless propaganda, because all the bad guys will just stop buying guns if we pass all these new laws. Americans need to stop being afraid of their own shadows. Many of you people need to stop making gun enthusiasts bad guys. There are enough bad guys in the world already. We don't need to manufacture more.

That only works if you have time to 'stand your ground'. It reads to me like they were ambushed. No time to pull out your gun with a high capacity magazine.

If there was no time to pull out a weapon, I'm gonna say mag size was not a factor.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 21, 2013 16:48:11 GMT -5 AGB said:

Dec 21, 2013 13:33:41 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

That only works if you have time to 'stand your ground'. It reads to me like they were ambushed. No time to pull out your gun with a high capacity magazine.

If there was no time to pull out a weapon, I'm gonna say mag size was not a factor.

The police arrested the wrong people anyway.  It was Phil Robertson.

[AGB]

Dec 21, 2013 16:52:13 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 21, 2013 16:48:11 GMT -5 AGB said:

If there was no time to pull out a weapon, I'm gonna say mag size was not a factor.

The police arrested the wrong people anyway.  It was Phil Robertson.

You're funny, I like that.

Careful though... wrong thread...

[Tennesseer]

Dec 21, 2013 16:55:17 GMT -5 AGB said:

Dec 21, 2013 16:52:13 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

The police arrested the wrong people anyway.  It was Phil Robertson.

You're funny, I like that.

Careful though... wrong thread...

[AGB]

Dec 21, 2013 16:57:04 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 21, 2013 16:55:17 GMT -5 AGB said:

You're funny, I like that.

Careful though... wrong thread...

I'm still keeping my mags though.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 21, 2013 17:00:29 GMT -5 AGB said:

Dec 21, 2013 16:57:04 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I'm still keeing my mags though.

I am not one of those who wishes to take away folks' guns.  I just ask for responsible gun ownership and usage of everyone.  Lock them up and away from children who do not know any better.