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Post by shanendoah on Dec 19, 2013 16:53:00 GMT -5
drivingaround - I am in administrative operations. I have an MBA with a focus in technology & innovation management, and over seven years experience in Lean and continuous process improvement. I have done IT project management and also financial analysis, budgeting, and planning. I am a Certified Supply Chain Professional via APICS (professional society for operation manager). Most of my experience is in healthcare/insurance. I have spent the last 6 months tangentially related to healthcare as my position is in the School of Medicine, but I am working on shared services, nothing actually relating to patient care.
The truth is, I was starting to become incredibly stressed, based on the fact that I knew my management oversight group was not happy about the pace of the project (but I really can't make the programmers work faster, especially when they don't even cross-report to me, nor could I make their staff and PIs adopt the shared services any faster, and silly me, I was honest about those things). Knowing that it's over is actually quite a stress relief.
And I am having problems focusing on work for other people. Stuff for my staff, I'm on it. Stuff for the programmers and work groups, I'm procrastinating, and I know it. But I do need to get it all out this week, so it will happen in a burst of productivity late today or tomorrow morning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 21:39:37 GMT -5
Sorry to hear shanendoah and may I say I am impressed with how you are handling this.
Kudos!!!
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Post by Opti on Dec 19, 2013 22:04:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry too much about having to mislead the people on your staff. If they are good people they will realize you did it ethically for business reasons and deal with things as you are now.
I'm glad you are willing to let your friend know about the position and its drawbacks. I have a feeling the directors know that their plans are unrealistic but politically it makes more sense to them to sacrifice you and future people instead of admitting that and changing the paradigm. I'm not sure I could be as positive as you are and ignore being setup as a sacrificial lamb but then I've never had such a generous time window as you do between the "we are going to have to let you go speech" and being let go. Your approach is probably better especially given you've got these couple months, but I'd be tempted to exercise some new political skills as I'm not staying anyway.
You are doing great on your job front so you'll probably land something soon. I hope you like whatever is next more than this one. FWIW, big corporations are just as mean and capricious as academia. Political cockroaches exist everywhere.
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Post by Bonny on Dec 20, 2013 1:31:26 GMT -5
And thank you everyone for the good wishes and the positive feedback. It helps.
You're a class act kid; you've earned it!
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Post by NastyWoman on Dec 20, 2013 1:56:49 GMT -5
And thank you everyone for the good wishes and the positive feedback. It helps.
You're a class act kid; you've earned it!
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 20, 2013 11:30:09 GMT -5
Opti - I'm not worried about my staff being mad at me. They will totally understand. It still doesn't mean I like misleading them. This will also be morale hit #3 for them, all since Thanksgiving.
Today, I get to interview students. The plan will be for the student to start working the first week of winter quarter (Jan 6). I expect that I will hire a student in the next week, and then, on their first day on the job, tell them I am leaving. That sounds like a great way to start a new job for them, doesn't it.
Okay. Off to write up meeting notes for the meetings from last week. Interviews from 10-1. Phone call with my boss at 3.
Celebrate my birthday this weekend. (Did I mention my birthday is tomorrow- happy birthday and merry christmas to me )
Monday- lunch with friend/fellow university employee Meeting with my boss at 3 to discuss communication plan, timeline, and work in progress
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Post by Opti on Dec 20, 2013 12:36:22 GMT -5
No, its not fun misleading people, but sometimes it has to happen. I once OKed with a boss that my contract to his knowledge was continuing so I could look for another place to live. Probably a day or so later orders came down from IBM management to end my contract along with the others that hadn't been cut yet. He didn't get to tell me for three weeks. And the extra money he tried to give me all went to the contracting company's coffers instead of me. Morale hits can be useful if they signal its time to bail before you get cut. Besides they are hiring new scapegoats. Might be the best lesson the students could ever learn.
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 20, 2013 14:26:09 GMT -5
Okay, meeting notes written and sent out. Two interviews down. (Interviews with students, to do a job I could train Pop Tart to do, don't take super long.)
After the 3rd interview, I need to run to Trader Joe's to buy something for lunch. I may head down to Half Price Books to pick up some gift cards, or that may wait until Monday's lunch break.
I applied for no new jobs last night. Instead, we watched an episode of The Sing-Off as a family, then read a few pages of The Hobbit to Pop Tart before bed. It was C's night to sit with her while she fell asleep, and while I had every intention of applying to the two county jobs, I played Candy Crush instead. And then I got sucked into Final Fantasy AMVs (I have to limit myself to watching those once a year or less, because they always take hours from my life).
Tonight Pop Tart gets to pick dinner (because she won't be going with us to my birthday dinner tomorrow). In the morning, she and I will go get mani/pedis and do some Christmas shopping for her sister and another little girl who will be joining us for Christmas. We ship her off to one of her best friend's houses for a sleep over at 3pm. My dinner is at 5pm. Afterwards, the plan is to actually get all of Pop Tart's presents wrapped and under the tree. Her friend's family will drop her off around 10 Sunday morning.
I doubt I will apply for any jobs this weekend. But it's my birthday, and I am going to be okay with that. C and I should sit down and do a quick review of finances, though, just so we both know exactly where we're at.
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 22, 2013 19:05:24 GMT -5
I did apply for two jobs with Amazon today and made a few changes to my LinkedIn profile.
We did get all the gifts wrapped and under the tree, which is nice.
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 23, 2013 14:27:54 GMT -5
Have called the student we want to offer the job to and left her a message to call me back. (I did say in the message that we want to offer her the job.) Once I finalize things with her, I will contact the other two candidates and let them know.
Am heading out soon to do some quick shopping before meeting my friend for lunch.
Have a meeting with my boss at 3 during which we'll discuss timeline and the communication plan. Fun stuff. But at least I should have some more concrete answers as to what will happen when, which will be nice.
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Post by The Captain on Dec 23, 2013 16:03:45 GMT -5
Keep it up Shane, hopefully having more certainty about the timeline will enable you to enjoy the holidays more!
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 24, 2013 1:30:56 GMT -5
Okay, so last day at work will be Jan 10.
I won't tell my staff until Jan 7.
My boss (the CFO) will be there when I tell them so that he can answer any questions I can't about the future. (I've thought of a lot of questions I think they will have and have gotten the answers to those, but they may have others.)
I did specifically ask today if I would be "eligible for rehire", meaning is it going to be an issue if I look for other jobs at the U. Boss said definitely eligible and he would be happy to provide me a great reference.
I talked to the student and started that process. It turns out, she will find out on her second day that I will be leaving.
Official message is: It was mutually decided this was not the right fit, and that it is best to part ways now so that both the department and I can move in other directions.
And now, I am off work until next Monday. There may or may not be job applying.
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Post by Opti on Dec 24, 2013 10:21:18 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about the Jan. 10th date instead of the February one you might have gotten. I could probably use your advice on a resignation letter myself for the seasonal job. Still its Jan. 10th not Dec. 20th so its something.
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Post by raeoflyte on Dec 27, 2013 9:31:55 GMT -5
I'm sure its hard to do, but I hope you are enjoying your time off. I'm sure you are going to find something much better.
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Post by moneymaven on Dec 27, 2013 12:01:43 GMT -5
Shanen- I think your amazing and graceful and professional. I hope you've been able to enjoy the birthday and Xmas.
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Post by spydah on Dec 27, 2013 14:52:02 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear about your job. You handled it very professionally. Good luck!!!
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 30, 2013 11:54:32 GMT -5
I want to thank everyone again for the kinds words and good thoughts.
I did enjoy my time off.
While off, I applied for 6 jobs: 4 with the university 1 with a health insurance company 1 with a manufacturing company
I also got my passport out to be renewed. It expired on Saturday and I sent it out on Saturday. I know I got a new SS card 10+ years ago when we got married, but I have absolutely no idea where it is. I use my passport as my proof that I'm allowed to work in the US. The website said it was taking 4-6 weeks for standard renewals. I sent my in 2 weeks before my job ends. If I don't find something at the university right away, 2-4 weeks in between jobs sounds about right, so I am not stressing.
Today- I need to write my letter of resignation and send it to my boss. He's on vacation himself this week, so I'll make sure to CC it to our HR person. I need to send forms to my new student employee to fill out. Start going through my documents and figuring out which ones I need to delete, send to myself at home, or save in a manner that my successor can access them.
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Post by taz157 on Dec 30, 2013 12:02:41 GMT -5
Sounds like you have things under control, but I question why need to turn in a letter of resignation when they are letting you go?
Do you still severance if you do that?
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 30, 2013 12:06:55 GMT -5
taz157 - I will be resigning in lieu of termination. There is no severance. What it does is let me honestly (and legally) say that I resigned from this position. The university will report it as a resignation. However, because I am resigning in lieu of termination, I will still qualify for unemployment. In that sense, it's the best of both worlds. I never have to say I was fired, but I still get UE checks.
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Post by taz157 on Dec 30, 2013 12:10:11 GMT -5
taz157 - I will be resigning in lieu of termination. There is no severance. What it does is let me honestly (and legally) say that I resigned from this position. The university will report it as a resignation. However, because I am resigning in lieu of termination, I will still qualify for unemployment. In that sense, it's the best of both worlds. I never have to say I was fired, but I still get UE checks. Got it. Makes sense to me now.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Dec 30, 2013 12:37:39 GMT -5
I want to thank everyone again for the kinds words and good thoughts.
I did enjoy my time off.
While off, I applied for 6 jobs: 4 with the university 1 with a health insurance company 1 with a manufacturing company
I also got my passport out to be renewed. It expired on Saturday and I sent it out on Saturday. I know I got a new SS card 10+ years ago when we got married, but I have absolutely no idea where it is. I use my passport as my proof that I'm allowed to work in the US. The website said it was taking 4-6 weeks for standard renewals. I sent my in 2 weeks before my job ends. If I don't find something at the university right away, 2-4 weeks in between jobs sounds about right, so I am not stressing.
Today- I need to write my letter of resignation and send it to my boss. He's on vacation himself this week, so I'll make sure to CC it to our HR person. I need to send forms to my new student employee to fill out. Start going through my documents and figuring out which ones I need to delete, send to myself at home, or save in a manner that my successor can access them. I got mine back in two weeks when they were giving the same time frame. Mine was the first I'd applied for. I'm not sure if holding an active security clearance speeded it up though.
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 30, 2013 19:10:04 GMT -5
It would be nice if the passport comes back sooner. This will be my 3rd one. But I will not stress about it if it does not.
On another note, while I am actually looking forward to having some time off (getting to sleep until 7am when Pop Tart gets up to get ready for school, instead of being out of the house before then), I also always want jobs to contact me back right away. I know that's not realistic. I know how long it took me to contact the students I decided to interview. I know this. I also know it's a slow time of year in offices. Hiring managers or HR people are very likely off.
And yet, every time I see a new email in my inbox, I'm hoping it's a response to one of the jobs I applied for, even though I know it's almost certainly a spam comment on one of my blogs.
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 31, 2013 16:33:52 GMT -5
Still just using this as a way to keep track of what I have done and still need to do. Most of it is work related, but some is stuff I've been putting off due to work stress that really needs to get taken care of.
Done Sent letter of resignation to boss and HR rep. Sent tax forms to new student employee. Delegated the booking of rooms for the meeting in which I will tell my staff I am leaving, and a work group meeting that I won't be here for, but that I did take responsibility for scheduling. Filled out my time card and approved my staffs' timecards got Pop Tart's hair cut into a pixie cut (to make our every 8-10 week lice infestations easier to deal with)
Still to do document clean up balance/update checkbook transfer money from online savings to pay C's winter quarter costs send copies of receipts to adoption support to get the last of the refund we qualify for send copy of adoption paperwork to other party's insurance company to get settlement for Pop Tart's injuries in June accident
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Post by Peace77 on Jan 1, 2014 22:05:13 GMT -5
I suggest that you contact Social Security for a replacement card. It's free and you can do it from their website: SSA.gov
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 2, 2014 12:03:50 GMT -5
ahh Peace77, why do you have to be so practical?
Got an email Tuesday on one of the applications I submitted. Working on scheduling a phone interview for next week. Amazing what that did for my mood. (My senses of identity and self worth are probably a little more tied to my career than is quite healthy. I know this.)
To Dos for Today: Review the resume of one of my staff who asked for feedback Get month end metrics done for our two processes Balance checkbook/pay credit cards/transfer money from savings Let staff know I'll be working from home tomorrow Contact SSA.gov for a new social security card
This seems like a manageable list.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 2, 2014 13:09:48 GMT -5
Thinking good thoughts and sending positive mojo your way!
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 3, 2014 19:28:24 GMT -5
Have the phone interview mentioned above on Monday.
Brag here: Today, while out and about to do some errands (ie go to the social security office in order to get my replacement SS card ordered and to get a SS card for Pop Tart) I got a phone call from a company I had applied to. The HR Rep basically said that they had another position that they really wanted me to apply for. They had sent me an email with that position, but I hadn't applied, please, would I be interested? I mentioned that I thought I remembered seeing the email and that there was a good chance I'd filed it away to look at later and had just filed it a little too deep. I would happily apply for it when I got home from my errands. And then the HR Rep asked to schedule a phone interview for next week for that position.
It is definitely a nice ego boost to have a company call you and ask you to apply for a position and then set up an interview for that position based on you saying that you will apply. (And for the record, yes, I have applied for the position.)
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Post by The Captain on Jan 3, 2014 19:29:34 GMT -5
Whoot! Whoot!!! You go girl!
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Post by Peace77 on Jan 3, 2014 20:25:37 GMT -5
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Post by taz157 on Jan 3, 2014 20:57:07 GMT -5
Whoot! Whoot!!! You go girl! Yeah that!!
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