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Post by chen35 on Dec 17, 2013 21:47:58 GMT -5
I'm really sorry, that sucks! You have a great attitude about the whole thing, which will take you far.
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Post by sapphire12 on Dec 17, 2013 22:09:50 GMT -5
Shanen -- Sorry to see this from you again. One good thing is you are in decent financial place and are good a planning out your future. Good luck to you!
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Post by muttleynfelix on Dec 17, 2013 22:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Dec 17, 2013 22:48:58 GMT -5
So sorry, Shanen, this totally sucks.
But, at the risk of appearing glib which I do not intend to be, I have to commend you on your ability to think rationally and purposefully in such a situation. It sounds like you really "managed" the whole mess to your advantage as best you could. Sometimes other people can't see the forest for the trees and end up blindly cutting down the strongest one.
I just know if it happened to me, I'd be in a puddle of tears. I am loyal to a fault and to my own detriment and sometimes that loyalty ends up catching me unaware of my surroundings.
Hang in there. You are clearly very bright and very capable. Your analytical skills of people and processes sounds spot on. You will land on your feet in a much better place.
In the meantime, spend some extra time with DH and DD.
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Post by kjto1 on Dec 18, 2013 4:06:11 GMT -5
Good luck on the job search. I hope you can find a better job quickly!
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Dec 18, 2013 4:13:16 GMT -5
Wow, so sorry, Shanen. I hope that you find the ideal, long term spot soon.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Dec 18, 2013 6:16:41 GMT -5
I'm so sorry Shanen! I'm hoping you find a wonderful new job soon!
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Post by The Captain on Dec 18, 2013 8:02:50 GMT -5
GRG said it better than I ever could have. You sound like you've got it together and are doing fantastic, everything considered!
Hang in there, you've landed on your feet before and will do so again.
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Post by milee on Dec 18, 2013 8:27:52 GMT -5
I'm sorry you're going through this. A recruiter once told me that Christmas time was actually a really good time to be looking for a job since many people delay their search then and employers are also in a better mood. I hope this is true and you find another good fit soon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 8:36:27 GMT -5
Sorry about your job. I hope your next one is a much better fit!
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Post by busymom on Dec 18, 2013 8:47:05 GMT -5
So sorry Shanen.
This is one of those times when working for "the man" is NOT a good thing. Especially when "the man" doesn't know what the heck he's doing!
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Post by Firebird on Dec 18, 2013 8:57:22 GMT -5
WTF? Who are they going to find that's better than you? (And I'm not just saying that because you're my friend.) I'm really sorry. This completely blows. I have absolutely no doubt you'll find another job well before February, but the stress is unenviable. I'm really glad you guys have a lot of liquid savings to fall back on - wish DH and I could say the same. Let me know if there's anything I can do but considering you were the last to give ME career advice, um... yeah I can always send Babybird up for awhile if babyhugs would make things any better!
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Post by Firebird on Dec 18, 2013 8:58:08 GMT -5
So sorry, Shanen, this totally sucks. But, at the risk of appearing glib which I do not intend to be, I have to commend you on your ability to think rationally and purposefully in such a situation. It sounds like you really "managed" the whole mess to your advantage as best you could. Sometimes other people can't see the forest for the trees and end up blindly cutting down the strongest one. I just know if it happened to me, I'd be in a puddle of tears. I am loyal to a fault and to my own detriment and sometimes that loyalty ends up catching me unaware of my surroundings. Hang in there. You are clearly very bright and very capable. Your analytical skills of people and processes sounds spot on. You will land on your feet in a much better place. In the meantime, spend some extra time with DH and DD. +1 to all this.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Dec 18, 2013 9:38:14 GMT -5
WTF? I'm sorry Shane. I really hope your next job is a perfect fit for you.
Hugs and good luck. Beth
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Post by sheilaincali on Dec 18, 2013 9:49:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry you are having to deal with all of this Shanen. This really sucks.
And pretty much ditto to everything Firebird said. Any company would be lucky to have you. Wishing you the best of luck in your job search.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Dec 18, 2013 9:51:19 GMT -5
I hate the idea of only spending 6 months on a job, but at least I can talk about it being a pilot and overseeing the rollout and spin my leaving from there.
It happens. I lost my first job here in Surgery Research. They were relocating from California and an institute that did EVERYTHING for them. UNMC is totally different.
I knew my goose was cooked when they told me I should be able to genotype, breed, tag and sort 26 translines in 8 hrs or less. That's impossible in a facility where the ARF is pretty much hands off.
They also expected me to do the job like I'd been doing it since day 1. Problem was the person I was replacing had done it for 10 years and didn't relocate. So I had to try to translate her system alone, didn't work.
I spun it as on paper I looked ideal for this job. In reality they really should have hired someone with a master's or even a PhD. There was no way someone with my limited experience at the time could reasonably achieve what they wanted me to. So we agreed to split ways.
I don't know if this applies to you but once I worked for UNMC I became an "internal candidate". They really push internal hiring here. So much so that if you are one your resume automatically gets passed on and they're required to interview you. It's a pain on the employer's end but was a HUGE benefit for me. I never would have been interviewed for this job as an external candidate, my resume didn't perfectly line up.
So if you like the university maybe browse their employment opportunities, you might find something else you like.
Either way good luck!
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Post by CarolinaKat on Dec 18, 2013 9:53:33 GMT -5
Stupid people
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Post by raeoflyte on Dec 18, 2013 10:48:47 GMT -5
I'm sorry. That sucks.
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Post by Peace77 on Dec 18, 2013 11:14:05 GMT -5
Here's hoping that you find a better job for more pay with a shorter commute:
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Post by bean29 on Dec 18, 2013 11:51:25 GMT -5
Everythings been said that is worth saying. I checked back because I was hoping for the best.
It is certainly not the worst it could be, but it still sucks.
and as peace says: Here's hoping that you find a better job for more pay with a shorter commute:
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 18, 2013 11:58:01 GMT -5
I am pretty okay with the situation. My stress levels were getting a bit higher than I like, and the commute wasn't helping that any.
NomoreDramaQ1015- I am, at least for now, an internal candidate. There are a couple of positions I am considering applying for. One is also up on the main campus, and since I've been unhappy with the commute, I am not certain I will put in for it. The other is a position that's a step up, but down on one of our satellite campuses. The distance is about the same as my commute now, but it's going opposite traffic, so I probably will apply for that. The biggest issue is, my current position is kind of high profile, so there will have to be some very careful treading on my part about the separation.
I have already applied for a couple of positions with my old company and one with the county (there are a couple others there I also intend to apply for). I have reached out to some close friends. Once there is more of a plan in place, I'll reach out to my broader professional network. Since a couple of the directors who made the decision to let me go are on my network, I want to give myself some time to settle down a bit from the issue so that what I put out is tactful and doesn't alienate anyone. I honestly believe that how professional you are on exiting can make a much stronger lasting impression that anything you did during your time on the job, especially if the time was short and the exit isn't under ideal circumstances.
And once again, looking on the bright side... We had been talking about moving this summer to be somewhere closer to where I currently work. Based on our current savings and the expected profit from selling the rental condo, we knew what our realistic price range, with a 15-20% down payment (and not selling the current house) would be. The problem is, the neighborhoods we would have been looking at in this area, our options would have been limited. If I can get a job closer to the area we currently live in (or at least with a better commute from there), then our options at that price range go up considerably, and we're not just looking at the house we "need", we can get the house we want, one we can honestly say we don't see ourselves moving from. Depending on how long it takes me to find a new job, that down payment may slip a bit, but it was pretty conservative to begin with, so I don't think it will make a huge difference in the house we can afford, if we're buying at the south end.
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 18, 2013 11:59:35 GMT -5
And thank you everyone for the good wishes and the positive feedback. It helps.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 18, 2013 13:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 14:43:50 GMT -5
Best of luck to you Shane! I'm sorry about what happened but I know you will fall on your feet.
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Post by Firebird on Dec 19, 2013 8:54:56 GMT -5
Your resilience and ability to make the best of situations is one of the qualities I admire most about you. We all know so many people who are negative and lazy (*coughDoxiecough*) and you are the complete opposite. It's refreshing.
Did I mention I really miss you??! And that if you need to use up some vacation time before you exit, Babybird would love to see her auntie Shanendoah... just saying...
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 19, 2013 12:21:12 GMT -5
So yesterday was probably the hardest part about this for me. When I was laid off from my last company, I had told people I expected it was coming, and when it did come, I was able to share that with my co-workers immediately. However, in this case, I am being asked to not tell my staff that I am going until after the holidays, after the management team has a plan for how they will handle not having an administrator for this department. I am honoring this request because I like and respect my boss, and again, because I believe professionalism is the right way to go.
I had planned one hour individual meetings with all of my staff quite some time ago. They were scheduled for yesterday. One of the things that I needed to do in those meetings was break a promise that had been made to two of my staff before I ever even started. We talked about the new staffing model and what that meant for them in terms of right now but also opportunities. I also talked with them about what they wanted out of the department and what their personal future goals were and how to get there. And this is what was really hard for me. I had to talk to them about this future as if I would actually be here to help them. All three of them (unsolicited) mentioned how much the liked working for me and how good a job they thought I was doing (they have said this, also unsolicited, to my boss). It was just so bittersweet for me to have these conversations knowing that in a couple of weeks I am going to have to tell them I am leaving. One thing I think I will do, on the day I share with them my departure, is to bring in my personal business card (the one I use for professional networking/job hunting) which has my contact information on it. I told each of them, if they wanted to apply for some of the opportunities we know are coming up, I would happily look over their resumes in advance and give them some pointers. That, at least, I can still do.
I also contacted another friend who works in research here at the university. She's incredibly intelligent and motivated, and has been working in a lab for the past few years. This year, her lab's grant was renewed, but only at 50% funding, so she is looking for a new position. She has the background knowledge that my board wants that I lack, and I think she could excel at the position. I also let her know that I am not certain anyone will last longer than 6 months in this role until either the pilot ends and it is made available to the whole college of Medicine (the original goal was one year after launch, but given the speed things have been moving, I expect it will be two years after launch- so another 18 months, and so 3 different people in my role), or the directors realize their timeline is not reasonable. (I can tell you which one I would bet on.) However, my friend is at a point in her career where a 6 month stint as a department administrator may be exactly what she needs. So she and I are going to meet for lunch next Monday to talk about it. It would be great, for me, if I could contact the staff in another month or two and say "I know the person who is going to be your new boss. She's going to be fabulous."
And finally, I also scheduled interview for the new student employee we will be bringing in at the start of the next quarter.
So yeah, yesterday was hard. Everything I did was about the future of the department and not being able to tell people I won't be a part of it. There's a part of me that wishes I could just ignore this work, leave it for the people who think I can't do the job. But that's not me.
Firebird - I wish a trip to the Bay Area were in the cards. C is from the East Bay. I have an aunt in Hercules. You're there. And I LOVE LOVE LOVE Golden Gate Park. But I just don't think it's in the cards right now. I have been planning on taking Pop Tart to NC in April to meet my grandfather. I was hoping to make it until January to purchase tickets (about 3 months out seems to be a sweet spot for tickets), but I think I may need to purchase them now, so that if I get a new job, even if I don't officially have vacation time, I can honestly say the vacation was planned and the tickets were purchased before I took the position.
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Post by The Captain on Dec 19, 2013 12:52:43 GMT -5
Shane - all I can say is very well done. I can't think of one thing that could have been handled any better!
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Post by shanendoah on Dec 19, 2013 16:26:12 GMT -5
No one has to read this stuff or even care about it, but I found with my lay off that it was much easier to keep track of what I needed to do if I wrote up what I had done here.
Applications 2 to old company 1 to county (still 2 more to do) 1 to grass is greener company
Networking Tasteful note on FB (still haven't posted on LinkedIn) Two friends have already commented, one with a specific opportunity (not right for me) and the other with the offer to recommend me if I find anything at his company
I need to get in the two apps to the county and check out city jobs.
Work wise, I need to get out notes from two meetings from last week and send work to the programmers. I expect to hear from my boss this afternoon about next steps/what options are in the me leaving process.
Edited to add: I need to write interview questions for the student assistant interviews tomorrow. Not really certain what to ask. Trained pigeons and monkeys could do what we need done. Work has been sent to the programmers, so that's one thing off my desk.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 16:40:12 GMT -5
I think you are smart to talk about it. It may help others in the same position. I wouldn't know where to start if I lost my job.
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Post by drivingaround on Dec 19, 2013 16:43:48 GMT -5
What is your background again? Project management with an IT focus?
I'm incredibly impressed with, based on what you've written here, how professional you're handling yourself. This is a tough cookie to swallow and you are coming out on top!
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