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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Nov 7, 2013 19:26:24 GMT -5
LOL! Please let me know what you find out!
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 7, 2013 19:28:33 GMT -5
THAT is the part that you are concentrating on? OK, I'd say about 40-50-60 yrs ago people didn't discuss/write about/made movies about/announced on national TV who they are sleeping with. Am I wrong? i'm sure no one ever talked about Liz Taylor sleeping with Debbie Reynolds husband....oh wait, yes they did. And we know for a fact that Rock Hudson stayed in the closet due to the stigma attached to being gay. so yes, it was talked about 40-50 years ago. Just now, no one tries to kid themselves that Liberace wasn't gay. OK, so you named 3-4 people out of how many ?? Are you guys seriously telling me that sex life of people was not considered more private, more sacred years ago? OK....... |
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Nov 7, 2013 19:30:10 GMT -5
I don't know if you are wrong or not because I'm completely confused. Bill made a comment as to why "people" need to put other people's sexuality in a box. I simply said that putting it a box or not, "I" don't want to see/hear/know about other people's sexuality and I wish I didn't have to. But people now-days seem to think that it's their duty to announce their sexuality to the world. And I said that it wasn't like that years ago. He says that I am wrong. Oh well I see. I don't know if you are right or not. I wasn't alive 50 years ago. But I sure do hear too damn much about it now. If I had a sex life, I'd keep it to myself. Or maybe not...I'd probably start whoo-hooing from the tallest building. No details, though.  |
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Post by steff on Nov 7, 2013 19:30:32 GMT -5
i'm sure no one ever talked about Liz Taylor sleeping with Debbie Reynolds husband....oh wait, yes they did. And we know for a fact that Rock Hudson stayed in the closet due to the stigma attached to being gay. so yes, it was talked about 40-50 years ago. Just now, no one tries to kid themselves that Liberace wasn't gay. OK, so you named 3-4 people out of how many ?? Are you guys seriously telling me that sex life of people was not considered more private, more sacred years ago? OK....... Do you really think that at the weekly bridge game, the housewives weren't talking about who was doing who and what wife didn't know about it? They were just swapping recipes & playing cards? I heard more gossip at my gramma's weekly church lady meeting than anywhere else. As much as you may want it the other way, the closet door is open & it isn't going to be closed back up so you aren't offended. |
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 7, 2013 19:30:45 GMT -5
Not out in the open. Yes, there wre gay people and yes, the were people into kinky stuff but they kept it to themselves which is how it should be. ... Oh, so it is only that some of the people who used to keep their mouths shut have stopped doing so that is the problem. As long as it was the sexual mores that you approve of that were being discussed, it was okay. |
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 7, 2013 19:31:54 GMT -5
No, WIJG, it wasn't discussed openly. Yes, people talked about it but among themselves not to the whole world.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 7, 2013 19:32:40 GMT -5
"As of right now, people shove their sexuality into other people's faces. " ABC is bringing back Desperate Housewives this coming fall, with all the sex, scandals and intrigue of the old series. ABC has released an advanced photo of the new Desperate Housewives cast during filming. 
This is an image from Desperate Housewives ?
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 7, 2013 19:34:05 GMT -5
OK, so you named 3-4 people out of how many ?? Are you guys seriously telling me that sex life of people was not considered more private, more sacred years ago? OK....... Do you really think that at the weekly bridge game, the housewives weren't talking about who was doing who and what wife didn't know about it? They were just swapping recipes & playing cards? I heard more gossip at my gramma's weekly church lady meeting than anywhere else. As much as you may want it the other way, the closet door is open & it isn't going to be closed back up so you aren't offended. Yes, you are right, nothing has changed. And I am not offended, why would I be offended ? |
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Post by steff on Nov 7, 2013 19:36:09 GMT -5
And let's also remember that media is DRASTICALLY different now than 50 years ago. 50 years ago, you got your gossip once a month in a magazine, now you get it hourly on TMZ & other media outlets.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 7, 2013 19:41:44 GMT -5
I don't know if you are wrong or not because I'm completely confused. Bill made a comment as to why "people" need to put other people's sexuality in a box. I simply said that putting it a box or not, "I" don't want to see/hear/know about other people's sexuality and I wish I didn't have to. But people now-days seem to think that it's their duty to announce their sexuality to the world. And I said that it wasn't like that years ago. He says that I am wrong. Oh well Just to clarify, I posted "Why do people continually attempt to stuff the wondrous variety of human sexuality into little boxes?" This was concerning a human being who obviously does not fit neatly into: What is your sexual orientation? (Don't see how to make those little circles into little boxes - but that is the concept of what I was talking about.) It was just about 40 years ago to the day that I donned a tuxedo and my girlfriend put on a prom dress and we marched out into the world announcing our sexuality. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 20:17:22 GMT -5
THAT is the part that you are concentrating on? OK, I'd say about 40-50-60 yrs ago people didn't discuss/write about/made movies about/announced on national TV who they are sleeping with. Am I wrong? Yes But the tabloid gossip rags still speculated about their sexual activity. Tawdry gossip = increased sales When Liz Taylor "stole" Eddie Fisher away from Debbie Reynolds is was fodder for the tabloids for weeks and months. |
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 7, 2013 20:18:33 GMT -5
Yes, but they didn't print naked photos or go on and on about what they did in bed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 20:20:51 GMT -5
On the subject of "nosiness", I liked the line from the lyrics of "Nunsense":
"The pygmies had their noses in everybody's business,
the Watusis had their business in everybody's nose."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 20:22:09 GMT -5
Yes, but they didn't print naked photos or go on and on about what they did in bed. And in the OP case where did they print naked photos and went on and on about how they did it in bed? I see a woman simply saying: I am not straight, gay or bi. I am me and whoever I decide to sleep with at the time I decide to sleep with them is my business. 30 years ago it was women, now it is a man, 10 years from now who knows? |
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 7, 2013 20:24:03 GMT -5
Yes, but they didn't print naked photos or go on and on about what they did in bed. And in the OP case where did they print naked photos and went on and on about how they did it in bed? I see a woman simply saying: I am not straight, gay or bi. I am me and whoever I decide to sleep with at the time I decide to sleep with them is my business. 30 years ago it was women, now it is a man, 10 years from now who knows? And I am simply saying that unless you are advertising yourself as a hooker, whoever you sleep with should be between you and whoever you sleep with - whether it is a man, woman or a goat. Why do you even talk about it on national TV? |
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 7, 2013 20:26:44 GMT -5
Yes, but they didn't print naked photos or go on and on about what they did in bed. One has to work to see naked pictures today just as one had to 40-50-60 years ago. Maybe not as hard, but you still have to go out of your way to see them. You have to tune to the station to hear the talk. Freedom of choice is bitch to those who wish to control others. |
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 7, 2013 20:28:56 GMT -5
... Why do you even talk about it on national TV? Because they wish to do so. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 7, 2013 20:48:13 GMT -5
Change the television channel (or turn it off). Find another Internet site. Switch radio stations ( or turn it off). Don't buy magazines. Get your books from the kid's section of the library or bookstore. Stay in your house with the doors locked and the shades down.
Problem solved.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 7, 2013 21:20:09 GMT -5
Change the television channel (or turn it off). Find another Internet site. Switch radio stations ( or turn it off). Don't buy magazines. Get your books from the kid's section of the library or bookstore. Stay in your house with the doors locked and the shades down. Problem solved.  |
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Post by steff on Nov 7, 2013 21:27:13 GMT -5
Change the television channel (or turn it off). Find another Internet site. Switch radio stations ( or turn it off). Don't buy magazines. Get your books from the kid's section of the library or bookstore. Stay in your house with the doors locked and the shades down. Problem solved. So you would rather silence someone than simply change the channel? why do you need for them to go back into the closet & be silent & invisible? What harm is their freedom to be who they are bringing to you? |
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Post by Opti on Nov 7, 2013 21:33:03 GMT -5
""I" don't want to see/hear/know about other people's sexuality and I wish I didn't have to. But people now-days seem to think that it's their duty to announce their sexuality to the world."
Lena, I wonder if you really mean this. Because if you do, that would mean you wouldn't
want to know if your children, friends or relatives had boyfriends or girlfriends. You wouldn't want to know about any hetereosexual marriages or even births.
Heterosexuality announcements are so taken for granted by some I think they don't
even notice them. If what you really mean is much of it is TMI for you, I think I
would see that as more likely and more accurate. Personally I'm not all that bothered by
how things are now because I can always change the channel, stop reading or listening
if its too much for me.
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 7, 2013 21:34:29 GMT -5
Well, I am not sure she is a lesbian. She is not sure she is a lesbian. why does anyone who isn't in her bedroom actually care?  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 21:41:00 GMT -5
Well, I am not sure she is a lesbian. She is not sure she is a lesbian. why does anyone who isn't in her bedroom actually care? She wrote an article about what it was like coming out as a black gay women. Then she married a the future NYC mayor. It is interesting. Will it help the gay community or hurt? |
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 7, 2013 21:57:48 GMT -5
why does anyone who isn't in her bedroom actually care? She wrote an article about what it was like coming out as a black gay women. Then she married a the future NYC mayor. It is interesting. Will it help the gay community or hurt? I can't say what it will do for the gay community. I would hope that both the gay and straight would share my opinion that what someone who isn't in my bedroom does isn't my concern. sadly, I know that's still not the case. I can't wait for the day that it is, though. I really and truly don't care if you're into sadism, masochism, heterosexuality, homosexuality, any of a myriad fetish options, or are actually asexual. that is YOUR business, not mine....and I lament that the public as a whole doesn't respect that. |
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 7, 2013 21:59:36 GMT -5
why does anyone who isn't in her bedroom actually care? She wrote an article about what it was like coming out as a black gay women. Then she married a the future NYC mayor. It is interesting. Will it help the gay community or hurt? I don't believe it will have any significant effect on "the gay community". I believe that it has the potential to be a positive for individuals who are struggling to come to terms with their personal sexual identity. Which, by the way, is why I am glad that the full range of human sexuality is out there for all to have the opportunity to see instead of the straight and narrow parade that has been all that was allowed for so long. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 7, 2013 22:01:31 GMT -5
why does anyone who isn't in her bedroom actually care? She wrote an article about what it was like coming out as a black gay women. Then she married a the future NYC mayor. It is interesting. Will it help the gay community or hurt? Why would you think it would hurt the gay community? |
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Post by steff on Nov 7, 2013 22:05:25 GMT -5
Here's a question...were you just as offended & put off by 50 Shades of Gray & how popular it became? it's allllll about a couple's sex life & their personal kink. It's being made into a movie now too.
or is it just the gay lifestyle you don't want to see or hear about?
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 7, 2013 22:25:22 GMT -5
why does anyone who isn't in her bedroom actually care? She wrote an article about what it was like coming out as a black gay women. Then she married a the future NYC mayor. It is interesting. Will it help the gay community or hurt? Archie-Former New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevy, father of two, and married twice (to women), announced he was gay (while still governor) in 2005. Did it hurt the gay community or help it? I would say the sun rose the following day and pretty much everyone went about their own business. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 22:32:44 GMT -5
She wrote an article about what it was like coming out as a black gay women. Then she married a the future NYC mayor. It is interesting. Will it help the gay community or hurt? Why would you think it would hurt the gay community? As I said in the OP, will ant-gay people focus on the born gay or not idea. |
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Post by steff on Nov 7, 2013 22:36:44 GMT -5
If we could just start treating people decent & equal then we wouldn't even have to think about if it will hurt the gay community or straight community or anyone at all.
If people would start seeing gay people as just equal human beings, instead of focusing on their sex life & getting their panties in a wad & getting all judgmental, none of this would even be an issue.
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