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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 11:51:47 GMT -5
I am quite familiar with how it all works, weltz. I have family there. I have traveled there extensively. and yes, I have a lot of money. but I was not mentioning Canada for expatriation because it was easy, but rather because they have a more sensible and humane healthcare system, imo. To damn cold there ...have you checked the latest temperatures there...Well possible the West Coast a bit milder.. that's the only place in Canada I would consider living.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 11:53:19 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter how good it is to live in Canada when I don't meet the criteria to move there. I am stuck hoping that when I retire I will be able to buy health insurance here in the states. you would be better off paying out of pocket in Canada than staying in the US.
but I mentioned at least four other countries, in case you didn't notice. ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/wink.png)
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 11:55:49 GMT -5
When my aunt last looked into emigrating to Australia, you had to have net worth of a half a million dollars and not be in poor health. I'm sure the criteria has risen since then. Unlike the USA, you aren't allowed to come in and take jobs from citizens or become a public charge. I don't think it has risen much. it was about the same when I visited there in 2012.
and your latter statement is not true under all circumstances. they actually have a really amazing student job program, for example.
I don't think I will be going to Australia because the cost of living is high and it is fairly isolated from other countries, and from the US.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 1, 2015 12:33:15 GMT -5
to me, that's a plus. That isolation. But DD's friend is working there for a year as a nurse and very much plans on marrying and staying there. She's not coming back. Plans on moving her mom and brother over there afterward.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2015 20:29:58 GMT -5
to me, that's a plus. That isolation. But DD's friend is working there for a year as a nurse and very much plans on marrying and staying there. She's not coming back. Plans on moving her mom and brother over there afterward. the fauna is really great there. if I moved it would be for the fauna. but I am very attached to the arts, and only big acts tour there. I am not into big acts, which means that I would either have to get a heck of a lot richer, do a lot more traveling, or live somewhere else. I am probably in the last category.
if I was fluent in Spanish, I would not even be looking at the English Speaking places.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 2, 2015 7:38:17 GMT -5
to me, that's a plus. That isolation. But DD's friend is working there for a year as a nurse and very much plans on marrying and staying there. She's not coming back. Plans on moving her mom and brother over there afterward. Going the other way. Won't say precisely where- but our family doctor back in Illinois moved to a lovely locale in Central America and we visited and thought it was great. We've done a good bit of research, and the government of said country seems wide awake with respect to the necessity of moving forward in a world where the dollar is worth dirt, and Team America World Police isn't there to maintain stability. We were actually quite impressed with the people we met there, and their grasp of reality.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 2, 2015 12:05:14 GMT -5
to me, that's a plus. That isolation. But DD's friend is working there for a year as a nurse and very much plans on marrying and staying there. She's not coming back. Plans on moving her mom and brother over there afterward. Going the other way. Won't say precisely where- but our family doctor back in Illinois moved to a lovely locale in Central America and we visited and thought it was great. We've done a good bit of research, and the government of said country seems wide awake with respect to the necessity of moving forward in a world where the dollar is worth dirt, and Team America World Police isn't there to maintain stability. We were actually quite impressed with the people we met there, and their grasp of reality. we have already discussed this and we both agree. you can have a live-in nurse down there for about 1/10th what a bed in a retirement home costs here. you can literally pay for it using a social security check, even if the system goes "bankrupt".
Canada and Australia (and Malta) can keep their $1/2M buy-ins. I will probably learn Spanish.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 2, 2015 13:26:14 GMT -5
to me, that's a plus. That isolation. But DD's friend is working there for a year as a nurse and very much plans on marrying and staying there. She's not coming back. Plans on moving her mom and brother over there afterward. Going the other way. Won't say precisely where- but our family doctor back in Illinois moved to a lovely locale in Central America and we visited and thought it was great. We've done a good bit of research, and the government of said country seems wide awake with respect to the necessity of moving forward in a world where the dollar is worth dirt, and Team America World Police isn't there to maintain stability. We were actually quite impressed with the people we met there, and their grasp of reality. Won't say where? You already said where. Costa Rica.
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Post by dondub on Feb 2, 2015 13:42:27 GMT -5
What's the big secret? Us west coasters have known about Costa Rica for 30+ years.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 2, 2015 13:45:13 GMT -5
I'll get to Costa Rica someday but it's so far down my list of places to visit that it's not probable that I'll live that long.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 3, 2015 15:01:59 GMT -5
Going the other way. Won't say precisely where- but our family doctor back in Illinois moved to a lovely locale in Central America and we visited and thought it was great. We've done a good bit of research, and the government of said country seems wide awake with respect to the necessity of moving forward in a world where the dollar is worth dirt, and Team America World Police isn't there to maintain stability. We were actually quite impressed with the people we met there, and their grasp of reality. Won't say where? You already said where. Costa Rica. Costa Rica is nice, but there are some drawbacks.
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Post by resolution on Feb 3, 2015 15:47:21 GMT -5
Costa Rica is very beautiful and affordable. However I don't have any intention of moving that far from family and friends.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 5, 2015 14:00:12 GMT -5
I am quite familiar with how it all works, weltz. I have family there. I have traveled there extensively. and yes, I have a lot of money. but I was not mentioning Canada for expatriation because it was easy, but rather because they have a more sensible and humane healthcare system, imo.Well, yeah, and we want to keep it that way. We just can't take in every Tom, Dick and Hairy who won't contribute. Otherwise, it wouldn't be sustainable. I'm sure that places like Australia operate in the same way.
And yet, that is exactly what Obama and the ACA does. Let's every Tom Dick and Harry who only is there with a government subsidy. So it is not sustainable here, either.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 5, 2015 14:15:49 GMT -5
Well, yeah, and we want to keep it that way. We just can't take in every Tom, Dick and Hairy who won't contribute. Otherwise, it wouldn't be sustainable. I'm sure that places like Australia operate in the same way.
And yet, that is exactly what Obama and the ACA does. Let's every Tom Dick and Harry who only is there with a government subsidy. So it is not sustainable here, either.
that is ONLY true if the subsidy is unfunded. for the record, i don't care much for the subsidy model, either. i am more of the REPLACE THE INSURANCE MARKET mindset. ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/wink.png)
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 16, 2015 12:17:04 GMT -5
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Post by mroped on Feb 16, 2015 12:54:29 GMT -5
And the squealing is where Paul?
Those mentioned in the article are just trying to help the stubborn/ morrons in their respective states. Maybe they are trying to help the oh, so stuborn and uneducated radicals that are trying to make a point by refusing enrollment but realized that they might have to pay a fine for their ignorance.
There might also be some people that are " I'll do it tomorrow" type. At the end they are just looking out for their constituents therefore DOING THEIR JOB! I see no squealing in that, just plain common sens and will to do their job!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Apr 1, 2015 18:36:36 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 1, 2015 18:44:34 GMT -5
that article is redacted for me. can't read.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 18:47:11 GMT -5
King v. Burwell was decided?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 18:57:36 GMT -5
If all the fat, out of shape people who like Obama care would eat better and exercise some and get in shape then the United States would be a healthier nation. It would not fix the problems with people not having health insurance but it would make for healthier people.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 1, 2015 19:10:00 GMT -5
If all the fat, out of shape people who like Obama care would eat better and exercise some and get in shape then the United States would be a healthier nation. It would not fix the problems with people not having health insurance but it would make for healthier people. same can be said of the fat, out of shape people who dislike Obamacare.
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Post by dondub on Apr 1, 2015 19:37:43 GMT -5
Is there any statistical analysis available that shows that a preponderance of those Americans that like the ACA, as it has enabled their ability to get insurance, or kept them insured with a preexisting condition, or insured their kids, that shows they are all "fat and out of shape"?
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Post by dondub on Apr 1, 2015 20:15:51 GMT -5
I'm finding it quite sad that the ACA is in it's final death spiral just as Rafael and his family are preparing to sign up. What will the Cruz family do now? Join the millions of Americans still uninsured, that he doesn't give a shit about?
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Post by EVT1 on Apr 1, 2015 20:36:54 GMT -5
that article is redacted for me. can't read. Same old same old- consider it an April Fool's joke.
But in a nutshell- premiums are going through the roof now and healthy people are bailing out- hence a 'death spiral' and how community rating and guarantee issue is a horrible idea, blah blah blah. It's an opinion piece anyway.
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Post by dondub on Apr 1, 2015 20:40:38 GMT -5
From the Moonie Times.
Hey! I have a great idea. Let's revere the newspaper that was owned by one of the world's great brainwashing cult leaders, that ruined millions of families and lives, and kept people trapped in a cult, all the while talking about liberty. Yeah, that makes sense. I may have to buy a rose now.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Apr 2, 2015 10:26:27 GMT -5
Still the same old insanity here, I see. Not sure why I still bother. Facts you Libs don't like are subjective opinions, and opinions you find appealing are incontrovertible truths.
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Post by dondub on Apr 2, 2015 10:45:04 GMT -5
Sun Young Moon wasn't an international brainwashing cult leader?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 2, 2015 11:03:31 GMT -5
Still the same old insanity here, I see. Not sure why I still bother. Facts you Libs don't like are subjective opinions, and opinions you find appealing are incontrovertible truths. i merely pointed out that i can't read the article, Paul. but go ahead and invent whatever victimhood you are now feeling. ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/wink.png)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2015 12:14:32 GMT -5
Still the same old insanity here, I see. Not sure why I still bother. Facts you Libs don't like are subjective opinions, and opinions you find appealing are incontrovertible truths. You mean like the fact that King v Burwell has not been decided yet...
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Post by EVT1 on Apr 2, 2015 22:13:04 GMT -5
Still the same old insanity here, I see. Not sure why I still bother. Facts you Libs don't like are subjective opinions, and opinions you find appealing are incontrovertible truths. That is correct- you post subjective opinions from agenda driven people. Why would a liberal care what some asshat with an axe to grind says? Methinks you have crossed the streams.
If you post an incontrovertible truth I will gladly back you up on it ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/wink.png)
You should still bother- what would be the point of discussing anything if everyone thought the same thing?
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