Mens are from Mars...women from Venus...

[hoops902]

Because men are supposed to be strong and women are supposed to be attractive.  Being overweight doesn't stop someone from being strong, and in a lot of cases helps it.  Being overweight does affect attractiveness. 

[movingforward]

and if a woman goes over 20 pounds of her "ideal body weight" she'll have self-image issues.

20 pounds .  More like 10 pounds for me... in the last year I have gained 3 pounds and I am slightly upset about it.  No self-esteem issues or anything but I know how weight can creep up on you so I don't want to gain anymore!

[hoops902]

The exception being pregnant women. They seem to think pregnancy is an excuse for being fat.  NO!  You're fat and gross, go on a diet.  The "pregnancy glow" is nothing more than grease from all that crappy food you're eating.

[Phoenix84]

There are already lots of books on the differences between men and women.  I've read a couple of them.  One interesting take talks about how women think and how men think.  Specifically, how women use a lot more "words" in their speech and thought patterns, while men don't get so wordy.  It also talked a lot about the dynamics of nagging.

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Aug 21, 2013 16:50:42 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

The exception being pregnant women. They seem to think pregnancy is an excuse for being fat.  NO!  You're fat and gross, go on a diet.  The "pregnancy glow" is nothing more than grease from all that crappy food you're eating.

I will cut you....

[Abby Normal]

Aug 21, 2013 16:50:45 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

One interesting take talks about how women think and how men think.  Specifically, how women use a lot more "words" in their speech and thought patterns, while men don't get so wordy.  

Women are like border collies.  Men are like St Bernards

[Miss Tequila]

Aug 21, 2013 17:07:31 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

Aug 21, 2013 16:54:12 GMT -5 @missmargarita said:

You take that back right now... or else I"m gong to take my extra 20 pounds and sit on you!   

I don't think being overweight helps your strength.  I don't think it affects your attractiveness either, to a certain point.  Obviously everything has it's limits...but being "fit" is more attractive to me than being "thin."  Maybe I'm just saying that because I'm not thin LoL!!  But it's true - there's a lady at work who isn't thin, but is very fit.  She's won triathlons for example and was the Air Force Athlete of the Year (before she retired and became a civilian).  You wouldn't guess it though by looking at her...and I'll be honest that I crush on her a bit.  It's not because she's thin, but because I know she's got a lot of drive and is competitive and stuff.

Oh...and Missy...yeah, you should take that extra "20" pounds and sit on him...

Great....I'm not fit OR thin ((double fists Oreos to soothe the pain))

[Otto the Orange]

Aug 21, 2013 17:07:31 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

Aug 21, 2013 16:54:12 GMT -5 @missmargarita said:

You take that back right now... or else I"m gong to take my extra 20 pounds and sit on you!   

I don't think being overweight helps your strength.  I don't think it affects your attractiveness either, to a certain point.  Obviously everything has it's limits...but being "fit" is more attractive to me than being "thin."  Maybe I'm just saying that because I'm not thin LoL!!  But it's true - there's a lady at work who isn't thin, but is very fit.  She's won triathlons for example and was the Air Force Athlete of the Year (before she retired and became a civilian).  You wouldn't guess it though by looking at her...and I'll be honest that I crush on her a bit.  It's not because she's thin, but because I know she's got a lot of drive and is competitive and stuff.

Oh...and Missy...yeah, you should take that extra "20" pounds and sit on him...

Being overweight (as long as you are not too much overweight) gives you more "power" (which people tend to equate to "strength") to push people and stuff, since your weight makes you harder to move if someone is coming at you and harder to stop you from moving once you get going

Don't you notice offensive linemen are always a tad bit heavy (just a tad bit )

[sesfw]

'while men don't get so wordy.'

You haven't met DH.  Where I would use 5 words, he uses at least 20 and will tell you his life history if given a chance.

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The biggest difference that I notice is the need for women (myself included) to vent and for men to fix whatever it is they are venting about. Venting is not the same as asking for help, sometimes we just need to get it out. I try to be careful with my female employees when they're bitching about something and I ask, do you want me to help or just listen?

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Men are from Mars....women from Venus....

Fist off I never agreed with that statement. If that were true they would be in the same solar system & I think that they are a lot further apart than that.

Simple fact is that we are just about totally different & driven by totally different things (generally).

From my "Mans" point of view I know that I will never understand women. Sometimes I think that it would be good to understand them but I'm afraid that to understand them just might have the requirement of being one (or riding that same rollercoaster that they ride). Just not worth the gamble to me.

[Formerly SK]

Aug 21, 2013 16:50:21 GMT -5 movingforward said:

and if a woman goes over 20 pounds of her "ideal body weight" she'll have self-image issues.

20 pounds .  More like 10 pounds for me... in the last year I have gained 3 pounds and I am slightly upset about it.  No self-esteem issues or anything but I know how weight can creep up on you so I don't want to gain anymore!

Yep - I'm up 3-4 lbs this summer and it's KILLING me.  I can't wait for school to start and I can get back to the gym. 

[quince]

I'm overweight and my self image is better than it was when I was thin.

My husband was sad that his body fat is only in "normal" and not "Athletic" range.

People are people. They're different, and interesting, and grouping them as generally as "men" and "women" without allowing for exceptions is likely to have you wrong a lot of the time.

[movingforward]

Aug 22, 2013 9:03:20 GMT -5 Formerly SK said:

Aug 21, 2013 16:50:21 GMT -5 movingforward said:

and if a woman goes over 20 pounds of her "ideal body weight" she'll have self-image issues.

20 pounds .  More like 10 pounds for me... in the last year I have gained 3 pounds and I am slightly upset about it.  No self-esteem issues or anything but I know how weight can creep up on you so I don't want to gain anymore!

Yep - I'm up 3-4 lbs this summer and it's KILLING me.  I can't wait for school to start and I can get back to the gym. 

I still workout 4-5 times a week so now I am starting to cut my calories a little to see if I can drop those 3 pounds.  I have been told by several people that when you turn 40 your metabolism starts to slow down.  Not what I want to hear

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Aug 21, 2013 16:50:45 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

There are already lots of books on the differences between men and women.  I've read a couple of them.  One interesting take talks about how women think and how men think.  Specifically, how women use a lot more "words" in their speech and thought patterns, while men don't get so wordy.  It also talked a lot about the dynamics of nagging.

dont build me a clock, tell me the time.....

[movingforward]

Aug 22, 2013 9:20:43 GMT -5 @gdgyva said:

Aug 21, 2013 16:50:45 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

There are already lots of books on the differences between men and women.  I've read a couple of them.  One interesting take talks about how women think and how men think.  Specifically, how women use a lot more "words" in their speech and thought patterns, while men don't get so wordy.  It also talked a lot about the dynamics of nagging.

dont build me a clock, tell me the time.....

This is exactly how I feel and I am female.  Most of the time I am thinking "just get to the point already"

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Aug 22, 2013 6:54:09 GMT -5 @monkeyunderpants said:

The biggest difference that I notice is the need for women (myself included) to vent and for men to fix whatever it is they are venting about. Venting is not the same as asking for help, sometimes we just need to get it out. I try to be careful with my female employees when they're bitching about something and I ask, do you want me to help or just listen?

there is actually a chapter in the book by Dr Gray? about that....been years since i read that book

men put on their fix-it hats whenever anyone starts telling us a problem

we are trying to figure out how to fix the situation instead of fully listening to what the actual situation is

a lot of time, women dont want or need us to fix the issue.....they want someone to listen to them....let them vent....and let them figure it out

if they want our help....most of the time they will ASK for it.....

edited to add.....i actually have picked up a little bit of wisdom in 52 years....i know i will never fully understand how women really think.....but i am closer than i was 30 years ago

[movingforward]

if they want our help....most of the time they will ASK for it.....

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!

[giramomma]

I missed the "I'm supposed to have a poor self-image " gene.

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Me too! I think I'm GRRRRRRRREAT!!  

[movingforward]

Me three!!

[Deleted]

I'm slightly heavier than I was in HS and I actually feel better about my body than I did then. Correction - I felt better about my body PRE-DS than I did in HS (my poor boobies!!! ). I was the fat kid from ages 7-15 and when I lost the weight, I still saw myself as fat. Fear of becoming the fat kid again has kept me in check for the most part. But I still feel okay about my current appearance - the "insides" however still need a bit of work.

[imawino]

Aug 22, 2013 9:39:31 GMT -5 giramomma said:

I missed the "I'm supposed to have a poor self-image " gene.

I got yours!  And Beer's.  And Almost40's.  Lucky me!

I feel like an enormous, gigantic, big fat load of disgusting when I put on weight.  Like now. 

[formerroomate99]

Basically, if a man is within 100 pounds of his "ideal body weight," he'll strut around like the worlds biggest stud...and if a woman goes over 20 pounds of her "ideal body weight" she'll have self-image issues.

1.  Because men are more visual than women, so not being at some ideal hurts a woman's dating prospects more than it does a man's. 

2.  Because women are stupid and catty.  Men aren't nearly as picky as the fashon magazines would have us believe and it's silly and mean for us girls to rag on each other.     

[Malarky]

Aug 21, 2013 16:50:42 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

The exception being pregnant women. They seem to think pregnancy is an excuse for being fat.  NO!  You're fat and gross, go on a diet.  The "pregnancy glow" is nothing more than grease from all that crappy food you're eating.

Clearly you have a death wish...

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Aug 22, 2013 10:04:34 GMT -5 imawino said:

Aug 22, 2013 9:39:31 GMT -5 giramomma said:

I missed the "I'm supposed to have a poor self-image " gene.

I got yours!  And Beer's.  And Almost40's.  Lucky me!

I feel like an enormous, gigantic, big fat load of disgusting when I put on weight.  Like now. 

You look good to me! 

[lynnerself]

Aug 22, 2013 6:54:09 GMT -5 @monkeyunderpants said:

The biggest difference that I notice is the need for women (myself included) to vent and for men to fix whatever it is they are venting about. Venting is not the same as asking for help, sometimes we just need to get it out. I try to be careful with my female employees when they're bitching about something and I ask, do you want me to help or just listen?

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Aug 22, 2013 10:19:31 GMT -5 formerroomate99 said:

Basically, if a man is within 100 pounds of his "ideal body weight," he'll strut around like the worlds biggest stud...and if a woman goes over 20 pounds of her "ideal body weight" she'll have self-image issues.

1.  Because men are more visual than women, so not being at some ideal hurts a woman's dating prospects more than it does a man's. 

2.  Because women are stupid and catty.  Men aren't nearly as picky as the fashon magazines would have us believe and it's silly and mean for us girls to rag on each other.     

i have NEVER thought the twiggy figures of women in magazines were beautiful

my DW is a size 7....and at times gets angry at herself for being too big

like i said....i will never truly understand women.....to me a size 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12......is perfect

whatever the women feels comfortable at.....and like herself at......

curvy and real.....

size 0....seriously NOT SEXY

[svwashout]

My guess is that for men height matters far more than weight, and for women the reverse may be true. Not exactly a fair deal because height is generally perceived to be beyond one's control.