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Post by swamp on Aug 21, 2013 13:39:13 GMT -5
Whose job depends on the ability to formulate coherent sentences? Do you ever deal with a colleague who can't convey a simple idea on paper?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 21, 2013 13:42:54 GMT -5
All the time. It's amazing how many scientist can't write to save their lives.
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Post by Jaguar on Aug 21, 2013 13:46:43 GMT -5
I have this problem, it's all in my brain and I can't get it out. I'm a freaking lousy at grammar.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 21, 2013 13:48:11 GMT -5
Cops. Cops cannot write to save their lives. I have no idea where any of them were when English 101 was taught.
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Post by steph08 on Aug 21, 2013 13:49:19 GMT -5
I work as a technical writer. So my entire job and livelihood depends on being able to write coherent sentences. Some engineers and scientists I know can't write well, but they can still spell and write coherently. Their structure and ideas just suck.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 21, 2013 13:55:16 GMT -5
I work in corporate tax and have to be able to communicate fairly complex issues to managment in terms to which they can relate.
It does me no good to tell them code section so and so prohibits a deduction under certain limited circumstances XYZ. I tell them the IRS won't allow them to realize the benefit of a deduction twice, and they understand the economics.
I was once in a three hour meeting with several outside consultants who were trying to hammer the above point home. I finally chimed in with my boiled down explanation and that clicked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 13:56:06 GMT -5
mine does, but we work with a lot of overseas services providers, so it gets interesting very quickly...
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 21, 2013 13:59:08 GMT -5
Stupid question asked. We need not coherent instead all smart people is needs. You ban persons writing maybe English bad now they not working but they very smart persons. Stupid and wrong.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Aug 21, 2013 14:04:04 GMT -5
Stupid question asked. We need not coherent instead all smart people is needs. You ban persons writing maybe English bad now they not working but they very smart persons. Stupid and wrong. Did TLoony change her name to Virgil?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 14:08:08 GMT -5
Stupid question asked. We need not coherent instead all smart people is needs. You ban persons writing maybe English bad now they not working but they very smart persons. Stupid and wrong. WTF...? Oh, I see Virgil wuz makeen funni.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 21, 2013 14:08:41 GMT -5
Stupid question asked. We need not coherent instead all smart people is needs. You ban persons writing maybe English bad now they not working but they very smart persons. Stupid and wrong. Did TLoony change her name to Virgil? I think TLoony and Virgil are the same person, actually. Or two "brothers" of the same mother, so to speak. Or they've become very strange bedfellows.
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Post by Otto the Orange on Aug 21, 2013 14:11:20 GMT -5
It sounds like all these people are meeting your standard based on your thread title: incoherent English
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Post by Colleenz on Aug 21, 2013 14:12:23 GMT -5
Wats wit al da redundunt leterz en englush anewaz? Hoo nedz sylint leterz?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 21, 2013 14:18:23 GMT -5
Stupid question asked. We need not coherent instead all smart people is needs. You ban persons writing maybe English bad now they not working but they very smart persons. Stupid and wrong. Did TLoony change her name to Virgil? Stupid insult from you. I am smarter. Not working for many years because all inner view persons is very stupid. I show them my write algebra and solve on a shit of paper but then says thanks we cant hire you.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 21, 2013 14:19:51 GMT -5
Whose job depends on the ability to formulate coherent sentences? Do you ever deal with a colleague who can't convey a simple idea on paper?
When I first started out in research, we would get post docs from other countries who would write letters to ask to be allowed to work in our lab. After they would get here, we'd soon discover that few could speak coherent English, let alone put together a sentence. Turns out, many places have people whose sole job is to write these letters for scientists. It's far more difficult to pull this over today between computers and emails.
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Post by Colleenz on Aug 21, 2013 14:23:26 GMT -5
Its kan't - jez lurn how two uz a katastrophy dood
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Post by Jaguar on Aug 21, 2013 14:24:36 GMT -5
Did TLoony change her name to Virgil? Stupid insult from you. I am smarter. Not working for many years because all inner view persons is very stupid. I show them my write algebra and solve on a shit of paper but then says thanks we cant hire you.
And I thought mine was shit.
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Post by Malarky on Aug 21, 2013 14:28:01 GMT -5
Little need to write. Full sentences not needed.
Mostly talking...sometimes pointing and grunting is sufficient.
Plus use actual tally marks as well as algebra.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Aug 21, 2013 14:29:08 GMT -5
Did TLoony change her name to Virgil? Stupid insult from you. I am smarter. Not working for many years because all inner view persons is very stupid. I show them my write algebra and solve on a shit of paper but then says thanks we cant hire you. LOL! I'm so glad you are smarter because I needed to ask your advices on why I'm not making any money on my produces and why LaKeisha's popping her large eyeballs at me and scaring herself!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 21, 2013 14:31:02 GMT -5
When I first started out in research, we would get post docs from other countries who would write letters to ask to be allowed to work in our lab. After they would get here, we'd soon discover that few could speak coherent English, let alone put together a sentence. Turns out, many places have people whose sole job is to write these letters for scientists
The Dean of graduate studies here mentioned it to me in regards to GRE scores. He said they carry a lot more weight for him when it's students from other countries because they've found there is a whole industry geared towards making these students look like ideal candidates. The GRE scores don't lie.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 21, 2013 14:34:00 GMT -5
Stupid question asked. We need not coherent instead all smart people is needs. You ban persons writing maybe English bad now they not working but they very smart persons. Stupid and wrong. Anyone else having flashbacks to the woman who had problems with a wedding dress and had to use duct tape?
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Post by kent on Aug 21, 2013 14:35:52 GMT -5
I no longer work but when I did I'm wondering if Virgil might not be a stalker (triggered by the stalker thread)
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 21, 2013 14:43:37 GMT -5
I no longer work but when I did I'm wondering if Virgil might not be a stalker (triggered by the stalker thread) You are stupid also mean like peace on mind. S is on last. talkers <------------ last not stalker on first. I am a smart talkers. You mean persons dont warrant me or smarter good bye.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 21, 2013 14:46:49 GMT -5
Poor Virgil. He's been in the company "stash" again.
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Post by kent on Aug 21, 2013 14:49:31 GMT -5
I no longer work but when I did I'm wondering if Virgil might not be a stalker (triggered by the stalker thread) You are stupid also mean like peace on mind. S is on last. talkers <------------ last not stalker on first. I am a smart talkers. You mean persons dont warrant me or smarter good bye. I think I'm developing a "man crush" on Virgil - smart as a whip and he always makes me laugh. Is this a bad thing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 15:05:44 GMT -5
Mine job does! I ewesed to b a magazeen chournalist but nowe I'm a English prowfessor at a bussines skool.
All the prowfs they right good English, the stoodents, not so mush.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 15:08:09 GMT -5
I have this problem with a lot of people at work. But to be fair, it's not usual their first language. I have gotten very good at deciphering Indian and Chinese/Japanese/Taiwanese/Vietnamese, etc accents.
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Post by Jaguar on Aug 21, 2013 15:29:20 GMT -5
It's sad that I can actually understand everybody.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 15:30:02 GMT -5
"I work as a technical writer. So my entire job and livelihood depends on being able to write coherent sentences. Some engineers and scientists I know can't write well, but they can still spell and write coherently. Their structure and ideas just suck." That is why we have you people
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Post by Phoenix84 on Aug 21, 2013 15:33:55 GMT -5
All the time. It's amazing how many scientist can't write to save their lives. It was my understanding scientists had to be very good at writing. In fact, doesn't their job depend on it? They have to write proposals to get their work funded, and then deliver papers on their research. That's how you get tenure, after all.
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