President Barry "57, I think 58 States" Obama Strikes Again

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 "Inappropriate laughter" is often a reliable indicator of psychological derangement. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 10, 2013 16:12:00 GMT -5 @patiencetried said:

 "Inappropriate laughter" is often a reliable indicator of psychological derangement. 

No sense of humor whatsoever has psychological implications of its own, my friend.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

The Obama Gaffe Hall of Fame



Obama has just finished celebrating Ramadan for the fifth year in a row as President which probably could be dismissed as the ecumenical thing for a President in a multicultural nation to do. However it is odd in light of the fact that he routinely takes a pass on the traditional Good Friday, and Easter statements / proclamations, even though he has claimed Christianity has his religion.

And while the good people at Snopes say that it is "False" that Obama was making a reference to the 57 Islamic States, with the convoluted reasoning that if you count just those countries with an indigenous populations that are majority Muslim, it only comes out to 52. What they really should have done is be honest and say that it's undetermined what Obama was talking about- it could have been a gaffe or a mistake, OR, our President who has distinctly Islamic roots could have been talking about the 57 Members of The Organization of Islamic Cooperation. Is it a coincidence? It could be. But Snopes was pretty quick to categorically state "false" when the truth is we just don't know for sure.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation

[Virgil Showlion]

The 'TOTUS breakdown' one is just painful.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 11, 2013 8:26:18 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

The Obama Gaffe Hall of Fame

Obama has just finished celebrating Ramadan for the fifth year in a row as President which probably could be dismissed as the ecumenical thing for a President in a multicultural nation to do. However it is odd in light of the fact that he routinely takes a pass on the traditional Good Friday, and Easter statements / proclamations, even though he has claimed Christianity has his religion.

the two year old faux controversy didn't work in 2011-2012.  it won't work now:

mediamatters.org/research/2011/04/26/right-wing-media-gin-up-another-faux-controvers/179081


And while the good people at Snopes say that it is "False" that Obama was making a reference to the 57 Islamic States, with the convoluted reasoning that if you count just those countries with an indigenous populations that are majority Muslim, it only comes out to 52. What they really should have done is be honest and say that it's undetermined what Obama was talking about- it could have been a gaffe or a mistake, OR, our President who has distinctly Islamic roots could have been talking about the 57 Members of The Organization of Islamic Cooperation. Is it a coincidence? It could be. But Snopes was pretty quick to categorically state "false" when the truth is we just don't know for sure.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation

[djAdvocate]

Aug 11, 2013 9:36:35 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

The 'TOTUS breakdown' one is just painful.

THIS painful?:

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 GWB was quite famous for his "misrememberizations".

[djAdvocate]

Aug 11, 2013 13:15:57 GMT -5 @patiencetried said:

 GWB was quite famous for his "misrememberizations".

every time he said "noo-kye-lur" it drained a quart of spinal fluid.

[Virgil Showlion]

Aug 11, 2013 12:08:51 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Aug 11, 2013 9:36:35 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

The 'TOTUS breakdown' one is just painful.

THIS painful?:

About on par with that.

In fairness to both presidents, 80% of their job consists of talking to people. It's not surprising that there's enough material to compile gag reels.

Bruce (BiMetalAuPt) met Pres. Bush at a few fundraisers, and he's claimed that Bush was unfailingly articulate in private conversation. And Pres. Obama's career accomplishments are more than enough to convince me that he's mastered the art of oratory.

In both cases, the problem is they've been programmed to stick to the script. Truth starts wanting to rear its ugly head any time they're forced off-message, and truth is the strongest kind of political poison.

[Opti]

Its gorgeous here today and Sunday no less. Before reading P&M I would have thought this would be a conspiracry theory and crazy propaganda free day. But no.


More of this instead.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 11, 2013 14:00:21 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Aug 11, 2013 12:08:51 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

THIS painful?:

About on par with that.

In fairness to both presidents, 80% of their job consists of talking to people. It's not surprising that there's enough material to compile gag reels.

Bruce (BiMetalAuPt) met Pres. Bush at a few fundraisers, and he's claimed that Bush was unfailingly articulate in private conversation. And Pres. Obama's career accomplishments are more than enough to convince me that he's mastered the art of oratory.

In both cases, the problem is they've been programmed to stick to the script. Truth starts wanting to rear its ugly head any time they're forced off-message, and truth is the strongest kind of political poison.

i have often thought that Bush dumbed down his speech for the public.  that makes him all the more detestable, ime.

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Bruce (BiMetalAuPt) met Pres. Bush at a few fundraisers, and he's claimed that Bush was unfailingly articulate in private conversation

 Bimetalaupt's definition/ idea of what being "articulate" is may differ from the popular interpretation.
 As for his claims of having met the former president... isn't everyone on the internet a multi-millionaire veteran of a Special Forces unit(retired) as well as entrepreneurs that own numerous private businesses?
 Captains of Industry, every one. Titans of the economic sector, without exception.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

What is painful is Obama. He is quite literally the worst of every President we've ever had. He is ever bit the Commander In Chief that Lyndon Johnson was- we're in a directionless war in Afghanistan; He is Richard Nixon with a nitro booster using government to wage political war at home, he has the economy of Jimmy Carter, he has the Teflon of Reagan and Bill Clinton, the cavalier out of touch persona of Bush I, the outright stupidity of Bush II coupled with an incompetence on the world stage not seen since Jimmy Carter, and he stands alone as the biggest spender, and of course he stands alone as the food stamp president.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

In defense of Bush II, however, there is a difference between inarticulate and just plain incapable of saying anything off-prompter. I honestly think Obama is fed lines, I don't think he actually knows that much. He is certainly almost completely ignorant about American culture- which is not surprising, he wasn't, for the most part, really raised her, nor did he have much direct access to the mainstream of American culture when he was here. He has been steeped in radical communist and anti-colonialist ideology almost from birth. I think he is genuinely surprised it's not working like in the textbooks, and the speeches he has listened to.

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Speaking of being fed lines...

[OldCoyote]

Aug 11, 2013 22:40:05 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

In defense of Bush II, however, there is a difference between inarticulate and just plain incapable of saying anything off-prompter. I honestly think Obama is fed lines, I don't think he actually knows that much. He is certainly almost completely ignorant about American culture- which is not surprising, he wasn't, for the most part, really raised her, nor did he have much direct access to the mainstream of American culture when he was here. He has been steeped in radical communist and anti-colonialist ideology almost from birth. I think he is genuinely surprised it's not working like in the textbooks, and the speeches he has listened to.

It's OK Paul, tell us how you really feel. 

Actually I agree with most of what you said,  It amazes me that we cannot find better leadership in all of America.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 11, 2013 22:15:36 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

What is painful is Obama. He is quite literally the worst of every President we've ever had. He is ever bit the Commander In Chief that Lyndon Johnson was- we're in a directionless war in Afghanistan; He is Richard Nixon with a nitro booster using government to wage political war at home, he has the economy of Jimmy Carter, he has the Teflon of Reagan and Bill Clinton, the cavalier out of touch persona of Bush I, the outright stupidity of Bush II coupled with an incompetence on the world stage not seen since Jimmy Carter, and he stands alone as the biggest spender, and of course he stands alone as the food stamp president.

he didn't start two failed wars (for the first time in a generation), sending thousands of proud Americans to their deaths needlessly.  nor did he govern over the worst economic meltdown since the 30's.  nor did he institute a program of surveillance and torture.  nor did he expand the size of government while helplessly watching as the private sector shed jobs for the first time since Hoover.  nor did he preside over the only attack on the US in two generations.

no, all of those glorious distinctions belong to his predecessor: the worst president since Harding: the worst president in living memory.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 11, 2013 22:40:05 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

In defense of Bush II, however, there is a difference between inarticulate and just plain incapable of saying anything off-prompter. I honestly think Obama is fed lines, I don't think he actually knows that much. He is certainly almost completely ignorant about American culture- which is not surprising, he wasn't, for the most part, really raised her, nor did he have much direct access to the mainstream of American culture when he was here. He has been steeped in radical communist and anti-colonialist ideology almost from birth. I think he is genuinely surprised it's not working like in the textbooks, and the speeches he has listened to.

i remember people saying the same thing about Reagan.  well, minus the "alien" part, anyway.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 12, 2013 0:18:50 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Aug 11, 2013 22:40:05 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

In defense of Bush II, however, there is a difference between inarticulate and just plain incapable of saying anything off-prompter. I honestly think Obama is fed lines, I don't think he actually knows that much. He is certainly almost completely ignorant about American culture- which is not surprising, he wasn't, for the most part, really raised her, nor did he have much direct access to the mainstream of American culture when he was here. He has been steeped in radical communist and anti-colonialist ideology almost from birth. I think he is genuinely surprised it's not working like in the textbooks, and the speeches he has listened to.

i remember people saying the same thing about Reagan.  well, minus the "alien" part, anyway.

People said the same thing about Reagan, but the difference is that those people were the loons on the left and they were incorrect.

[Opti]

He has been steeped in radical communist and anti-colonialist ideology almost from birth. I think he is genuinely surprised it's not working like in the textbooks, and the speeches he has listened to.

It amazes me people can think such things when they have no direct experience of how he was brought up. He was brought up in the US except for the time he was in Indonesia.
Now I'm less politically inclined than many here. I don't actually think often about what the government is or is not in any given country unless I plan to visit, and not always even then depending on its rep for friendliness to tourists.

When I think of communist countries I think of China, Russia, and Cuba mostly. And anti-colonial makes me feel someone is living in the 1700s. He was too young for his Dad to talk any meaningful politics with him prior to his Mom's re-marriage so I doubt he had any political influence until Obama was much older. Likely HS or college age at least. You and others have created an alternate reality story concerning his life, but it isn't truth, and the odds of it being accurate are likely zero.

[Opti]

Slightly OT, but I probably rarely thought about politics until it came up in school in 6th grade as a regular topic to be studied. I remember JFK being shot, but being a toddler
I'm not even sure I knew at the time he was President or what that even meant.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 12, 2013 6:49:57 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Aug 12, 2013 0:18:50 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i remember people saying the same thing about Reagan.  well, minus the "alien" part, anyway.

People said the same thing about Reagan, but the difference is that those people were the loons on the left and they were incorrect.

LOL!  i need to save this one.    that is probably the only comment i need to make. 

[djAdvocate]

Aug 12, 2013 7:34:45 GMT -5 Opti said:

He has been steeped in radical communist and anti-colonialist ideology almost from birth. I think he is genuinely surprised it's not working like in the textbooks, and the speeches he has listened to.

It amazes me people can think such things when they have no direct experience of how he was brought up. He was brought up in the US except for the time he was in Indonesia.
Now I'm less politically inclined than many here. I don't actually think often about what the government is or is not in any given country unless I plan to visit, and not always even then depending on its rep for friendliness to tourists.

When I think of communist countries I think of China, Russia, and Cuba mostly. And anti-colonial makes me feel someone is living in the 1700s. He was too young for his Dad to talk any meaningful politics with him prior to his Mom's re-marriage so I doubt he had any political influence until Obama was much older. Likely HS or college age at least. You and others have created an alternate reality story concerning his life, but it isn't truth, and the odds of it being accurate are likely zero.

he says "anti-colonial" as if this is a bad thing.  i can't imagine anything worse than being "pro-colonial".