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Post by tallguy on Jul 14, 2013 18:05:22 GMT -5
Not at all, though it does seem to be disproportionately whites who have their "acting poorly" sanctioned by either authority or society.... Of course.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 14, 2013 18:32:05 GMT -5
If 'cracker' is the worst, most insulting word we white people can be called, we are doing okay. I think it's a funny name. Doesn't bother me a bit no matter how it is used. Same with 'honky'.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 14, 2013 18:51:43 GMT -5
If 'cracker' is the worst, most insulting word we white people can be called, we are doing okay. I think it's a funny name. Doesn't bother me a bit no matter how it is used. Same with 'honky'. See...you defend a black person hurling a racial slur so does that mean that it is ok to hurl slurs at black people? Both is wrong but one gets glossed over....
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 14, 2013 19:02:39 GMT -5
I've never heard cracker used as anything but a joke. I didn't even realize it was meant as a slur until posting here and it used to be corrected to saltine...
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Jul 14, 2013 19:07:20 GMT -5
I'd be interested to know the racial breakdown in your neighborhoods for the posters who have indicated that they would've done the same thing as Zimmerman if they saw someone walking around who "didn't belong there." What exactly defines someone who "doesn't belong there"? I hope it's not meant as it sounds (which is that a young black person shouldn't be in an upscale neighborhood) and I'm misunderstanding. Our neighborhood is pretty spread out, and I don't know most of the neighbors, the ones that I've seen are white. But here is the thing - the only people who walk around are mothers with young kids, dog walkers or exercise people. If I saw a teenager, of ANY color, I would be suspicious. They don't just "go for walks". We don't have any places withing walking distance where they could be walking to. My parents live in a predominately white neighborhood, but I wouldn't be as suspicious bc there are fields around it, so I could assume that the kid was walking to play a sport or something. Or going to a store which is within a walking distance. Race has nothing to do with any of it. Not everything is about race. And for all the people who talk about racism, may be you should stop talking about race so much
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 14, 2013 19:13:42 GMT -5
If 'cracker' is the worst, most insulting word we white people can be called, we are doing okay. I think it's a funny name. Doesn't bother me a bit no matter how it is used. Same with 'honky'. See...you defend a black person hurling a racial slur so does that mean that it is ok to hurl slurs at black people? Both is wrong but one gets glossed over.... Where on earth did you get the idea I am defending a black person or whole race for hurling a racial slur? I said "If 'cracker' is the worst, most insulting word we white people can be called, we are doing okay. I think it's a funny name. Doesn't bother me a bit no matter how it is used. Same with 'honky'". If a black person wants to hurl either of those two words at me, I am not going to take offense because it's silly. Seriously MT-stop reading into things that simply aren't there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 19:14:49 GMT -5
Race has nothing to do with any of it. Not everything is about race. And for all the people who talk about racism, may be you should stop talking about race so much
Please believe me, I wish I never knew anything about racism. So, even though it's still alive and well, I'm suppose to shut up and not talk about it? That's the answer you came up with? Really?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 14, 2013 19:16:09 GMT -5
I've never heard cracker used as anything but a joke. I didn't even realize it was meant as a slur until posting here and it used to be corrected to saltine... In some areas of Florida and Georgia it's not a racial slur. It only becomes a slur if it is said as 'white cracker'.
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Post by swamp on Jul 14, 2013 19:19:47 GMT -5
Pink, Jenny and Cawiau aren't exactly thin skinned raging black power posters rail about the white man keeping the black man down, so if they make about racism they have encountered, I'm willing to listen and take note about hat they say. And they should talk about it.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 14, 2013 19:20:04 GMT -5
See...you defend a black person hurling a racial slur so does that mean that it is ok to hurl slurs at black people? Both is wrong but one gets glossed over.... Where on earth did you get the idea I am defending a black person or whole race for hurling a racial slur? I said "If 'cracker' is the worst, most insulting word we white people can be called, we are doing okay. I think it's a funny name. Doesn't bother me a bit no matter how it is used. Same with 'honky'". If a black person wants to hurl either of those two words at me, I am not going to take offense because it's silly. Seriously MT-stop reading into things that simply aren't there. By saying "if that is the worst thing white people are called"....I'm not reading into anything. One racial slur is as bad as the next...if I started dropping any kind of ethnic or racial slur I would be lambasted...I think everyone should be held to the same standard.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 14, 2013 19:23:16 GMT -5
Race has nothing to do with any of it. Not everything is about race. And for all the people who talk about racism, may be you should stop talking about race so much
Please believe me, I wish I never knew anything about racism. So, even though it's still alive and well, I'm suppose to shut up and not talk about it? That's the answer you came up with? Really? No. True racism that you encounter is much different than people that play the race card.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 19:25:53 GMT -5
I'd said I wasn't going to post on this thread anymore, but the "stop talking about it" thing bugged me. I don't consider myself a victim because that's not how I want to live my life regardless of what other people do, but to say people should stop talking about it allows people to keep pretending it doesn't happen IN 2013 and it looks like blaming the victim again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 19:28:38 GMT -5
Whew. By the time I stopped my head from spinning around on my neck and typed out my last response, I'd missed the posts in between. lol
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 14, 2013 19:29:13 GMT -5
Where on earth did you get the idea I am defending a black person or whole race for hurling a racial slur? I said "If 'cracker' is the worst, most insulting word we white people can be called, we are doing okay. I think it's a funny name. Doesn't bother me a bit no matter how it is used. Same with 'honky'". If a black person wants to hurl either of those two words at me, I am not going to take offense because it's silly. Seriously MT-stop reading into things that simply aren't there. By saying "if that is the worst thing white people are called"....I'm not reading into anything. One racial slur is as bad as the next...if I started dropping any kind of ethnic or racial slur I would be lambasted...I think everyone should be held to the same standard. You still haven't shown me where I defended a black person. I only said the names wouldn't bother me. She I punch the black guy in the mouth and then tell him the words/names don't bother me? Geeez. Some victim mentality going on here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 19:36:03 GMT -5
I think that intentionally hurling racial slurs is unacceptable, period. I say "intentionally" because I don't think everybody everywhere knows what every culture considers offensive. But I don't go along with the friendly "bitch" thing either, so maybe I'm just weird.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 14, 2013 19:36:51 GMT -5
By saying "if that is the worst thing white people are called"....I'm not reading into anything. One racial slur is as bad as the next...if I started dropping any kind of ethnic or racial slur I would be lambasted...I think everyone should be held to the same standard. You still haven't shown me where I defended a black person. I only said the names wouldn't bother me. She I punch the black guy in the mouth and then tell him the words/names don't bother me? Geeez. Some victim mentality going on here. Lol! I am the least victim mentality out there....but I am sick of the liberal getting all over everyone shit about not being PC related to everyone else but white people. You can't have it both ways. Slurs are wrong for everyone or no one.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 14, 2013 19:40:35 GMT -5
I think that intentionally hurling racial slurs is unacceptable, period. I say "intentionally" because I don't think everybody everywhere knows what every culture considers offensive. But I don't go along with the friendly "bitch" thing either, so maybe I'm just weird. I totally agree with this and believe me, I am not actually offended by being called a cracker. Wtf do I care? But I've been lambasted in here for saying the same thing.
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Post by midjd on Jul 14, 2013 19:45:58 GMT -5
There are different degrees of racial slurs, just like any other type of slur.
I'd take much greater offense at being called a c**t than a broad, even though both are misogynistic terms.
I think "cracker" and the n-word are at opposite ends of the severity spectrum.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 14, 2013 19:47:26 GMT -5
Personally, I'm getting really tired of hearing/reading ALL the racially-related slurs. Seems to me educated people can find a better way of expressing themselves than to use derogatory language to describe a person different than they. It's time it stopped.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 14, 2013 19:48:24 GMT -5
You still haven't shown me where I defended a black person. I only said the names wouldn't bother me. She I punch the black guy in the mouth and then tell him the words/names don't bother me? Geeez. Some victim mentality going on here. Lol! I am the least victim mentality out there....but I am sick of the liberal getting all over everyone shit about not being PC related to everyone else but white people. You can't have it both ways. Slurs are wrong for everyone or no one. And I am sick of (on P&M) all the 'poor me', middle aged, white male pity party mentality. The fear of some of being eclipsed by women and minorities is palpable. Get a grip guys.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 19:54:23 GMT -5
There are different degrees of racial slurs, just like any other type of slur. I'd take much greater offense at being called a c**t than a broad, even though both are misogynistic terms. I think "cracker" and the n-word are at opposite ends of the severity spectrum. I agree. I just think that regardless of how the person receives it, the intent still matters. If I intentionally call you a derogatory name and it just so happens that you don't really care about the word I used, it doesn't mean that what I did was ok.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 20:04:01 GMT -5
Except clearly Trayvon didn't live there nor his dad. They were visiting his dad's fiancée. No overnight guests allowed at the condo complex? Interesting information about the The Retreat at Twin Lakes: Trayvon Martin's killing shatters safety within Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford
There appears to have been high turnover of residents in the complex. No way in the world would Zimmerman know everyone who lived there when at least half of the homes were rented. Really? He couldn't meet them doing rounds the day they moved in? I find that odd. Are your thinking that 20 or 30 moved in per day?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 14, 2013 20:08:24 GMT -5
Lol! I am the least victim mentality out there....but I am sick of the liberal getting all over everyone shit about not being PC related to everyone else but white people. You can't have it both ways. Slurs are wrong for everyone or no one. And I am sick of (on P&M) all the 'poor me', middle aged, white male pity party mentality. The fear of some of being eclipsed by women and minorities is palpable. Get a grip guys. You realize I'm not a guy, right???lol It is that attitude right there that is wrong. We have gone so far to be politically correct that the white guys are getting the shaft...but I guess they deserve it?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 14, 2013 20:09:25 GMT -5
Really? He couldn't meet them doing rounds the day they moved in? I find that odd. Are your thinking that 20 or 30 moved in per day? Didn't GZ have a day job? After all, he played cop at night.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 14, 2013 20:11:42 GMT -5
There are different degrees of racial slurs, just like any other type of slur. I'd take much greater offense at being called a c**t than a broad, even though both are misogynistic terms. I think "cracker" and the n-word are at opposite ends of the severity spectrum. I'm curious as to why you think one racial slur is worse than another
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 20:16:12 GMT -5
So if cracker is not at the same level of n*****, would cracker be equivalent to using "colored person"?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 14, 2013 20:18:33 GMT -5
And I am sick of (on P&M) all the 'poor me', middle aged, white male pity party mentality. The fear of some of being eclipsed by women and minorities is palpable. Get a grip guys. You realize I'm not a guy, right???lol It is that attitude right there that is wrong. We have gone so far to be politically correct that the white guys are getting the shaft...but I guess they deserve it? LOL. I know few men who call themselves Miss (Whatever). You aren't one of them. I simply said what I am sick of (just as you said you were sick of PC or whatever). White guys, including myself, have had to make our own way in the world, with whatever life throws our way. We all need to pull up our big-boy pants and get on with life. I'm sixty-two and at the back end of being middle aged. I have never felt like life was or is picking on me like some men do. I simply plod on and only look forward.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 14, 2013 20:23:48 GMT -5
You realize I'm not a guy, right???lol It is that attitude right there that is wrong. We have gone so far to be politically correct that the white guys are getting the shaft...but I guess they deserve it? LOL. I know few men who call themselves Miss (Whatever). You aren't one of them. I simply said what I am sick of (just as you said you were sick of PC or whatever). White guys, including myself, have had to make our own way in the world, with whatever life throws our way. We all need to pull up our big-boy pants and get on with life. I'm sixty-two and at the back end of being middle aged. I have never felt like life was or is picking on me like some men do. I simply plod on and only look forward. I'm curious as why you think only white guys need to do that? Should all people have to out in their big boy pants? I honestly will never understand the liberal mentality towards white people. That is not a racial knock but something I've noticed in here over the years. White Christians get lambasted for everything but everyone else seems to get passes. Me dropping a racial slur would deserve a slap down but the liberals on here excuse slurs hurled at white people. Christians get slammed left and right on here but god forbid anyone makes a comment about Muslims. I guess that's why I'm a conservative...no one gets a pass from me
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Post by midjd on Jul 14, 2013 20:28:02 GMT -5
Who here has excused slurs toward white people? I don't remember those posts.
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Post by midjd on Jul 14, 2013 20:30:17 GMT -5
Same reason "hell" and "damn" aren't bleeped out on TV shows but "fuck" is. One is considered more obscene than the others. I don't think it's about the color or gender of the person being insulted but the connotations and historical context of the word. There are different levels of insults even within categories (like my "broad" vs "c**t" example earlier). You really don't find one of those words more offensive than the other? I think most women would.
MMC, IMO that would be a closer comparison.
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