Make no mistake we are in a depression.

[bubblyandblue]

Taxes are your problem otherwise you would not bring up the problem of illegals or other injustice - "Illegals come here to get jobs Americans won't do" is malarky - Usually, when their is a demand for labor, in a free market and, not enough people to fill the need - labor cost will go up.- "The absolute fact is that 45% of individual Federal Income Tax filers pay NO Federal Income Tax." The statement still does not change the fact that every consumer pays all taxes - Federal Stae and local.

[maui1]

Usually, when their is a demand for labor, in a free market and, not enough people to fill the need - labor cost will go up.-


if only we had a free market............

americans, don't have to take shitty jobs........they can collect welfare if they don't want to work.

if we did had a free market, no gov't intervention, and no immigrant cheap labor, then your food bill would go thru the roof, if we had to pay what americans would want for harvesting our food..

[verrip1]

Not necessarily. We could give those jobs to welfare recipients. We're already paying them, so it would be a net cost reduction.

Win-win!

[maui1]

Not necessarily. We could give those jobs to welfare recipients. We're already paying them, so it would be a net cost reduction.

verr- when you wake up from your dream, send me a pm that you are awake and thinking clearly.

i just said.......
americans, don't have to take shitty jobs........they can collect welfare if they don't want to work.

[verrip1]

Just postulating simple solutions to difficult problems. Ockham's Razor, you know.

[maui1]

ever see a person that is on welfare that would be willing to stay bent over for 8 hours a day, picking strawberries?

a few hours, a trip to the doctor, and a pay check in the mail for for the rest of the year, eating bon bons, is in that welfare persons future.

[verrip1]

We'll just get a General Patton to whip them into shape!

[maui1]

don't get me wrong..........but we have cultivated a generation of people that feel entitled to stay home and to be cared for.

i don't like it ether, and our tax system should be adjusted to adapt to it. a sales tax with no income tax, would get these people paying their own way.

[bga4444]

V, Sh*tty deal.... in the Goldman- Sachs sense?? LOLLOLLOL
Forget the illegal debate- mute pointe! We have to have them to grow the population, votes for Dems, and cheap labor for repubs, and we can not grow GDP if we do not have them. So shut the fu*k up about them. Fence, and
troops on the border what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!

[tyfighter3]

If your Illegal in this Country you will have NO Rights that a US citizen has and that would be all entitlement programs. Mandate that and you will really see a drop in Illegals coming into this Country.

[maui1]

i agree.........rights and benefits are for american taxpaying citizens...........lets get back to that.

the only way to do that and be able to provide for your sick mother, is to our present income tax system for a sales tax system, so everyone pays as they play.

[tyfighter3]

maui1, why would you call me ( you sick mother) when you know Nothing about Me?

[verrip1]

Jun 23, 2011 13:26:45 GMT -5 bga4444 said:

V, Sh*tty deal.... in the Goldman- Sachs sense?? LOLLOLLOL
Forget the illegal debate- mute pointe! We have to have them to grow the population, votes for Dems, and cheap labor for repubs, and we can not grow GDP if we do not have them. So shut the fu*k up about them. Fence, and
troops on the border what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!

I doubt I'll be "shutting the fuck up" any time soon. Quite nice of you to ask, though.

Perhaps you can take some solace in knowing that, since I am writing instead of speaking, all my arguments are "mute pointes". lololol

BTW, Goldman Sachs rocks!

[verrip1]

Jun 23, 2011 14:09:54 GMT -5 tyfighter3 said:

maui1, why would you call me ( you sick mother) when you know Nothing about Me?

Sometimes people get caught up in the heat of the moment.

[usaone]

This thread has been dead for 6 months.

All of a sudden we are in a depression because the markets down 800 point from the high of the year?

[maui1]

maui1, why would you call me ( you sick mother) when you know Nothing about Me?

sorry........i meant "your sick mother" (figure of speech)......meaning someone would always need a safety net.

i missed the r sorry again

tooo funny.....................it does sound bad without the r

[verrip1]

MOOOHOOOHOOOHAAAHAAAHAAA.

My Machiavellian plan for world domination has finally come to fruition! Let the slaughter begin.

But first, bring me the virgins. All of them!

[maui1]

i will settle for just one.........anymore than one, at my age........might just do me in.

[tyfighter3]

So you where talking about my sick mother? Why talk about Family when it has no relevance about the subject at all?

[moon/Laura]

ty, i doubt he meant YOUR mother specifically.. or even mothers per se.. he was just commenting that when you have a sick individual that you are financially responsible for caring for, that you may not be able to do so under the current system.

you are reading too much into things..

[maui1]

So you where talking about my sick mother? Why talk about Family when it has no relevance about the subject at all?


i said i was sorry........and i am......it was a typo. do you want appropriations too?

[verrip1]

Simply grease his palms with silver .....

[maui1]

he needs to send me his account and his personal information, and i will make a silver transfer to his account.

[verrip1]

Worthless flows of electrons? Surely you jest! That's almost as bad as worthless fiat currency.

I'd advise against it, Ty. Accept only the real deal silver to a General Post Office Box somewhere near you. Just think to yourself, "if it don't shine, it ain't mine".

[bga4444]

V, I apoligize I did not mean you personally shut up! I meant just the debate has been discussed by politicians for decades. Really they do not care! The debates are just lip service and rhetoric. They will do nothing to stop it. We might as well make Mexico 51 and Canada 52. I am sure all you guys are as mad as the indians were when we came over for a better life. Just saying!!

[domeasingold]

Typo: He meant MoFo's

[verrip1]

This message has been deleted.

Threat to other is a violation of the CoC...
The short version: Treat your fellow posters with courtesy and respect. This means no personal attacks, racial slurs, stalking, etc.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

WTF was that all about?

[The Virginian]

WTF was that all about?

Close your eyes - You probably don't want to be a witness!

[verrip1]

Jun 23, 2011 19:38:15 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

This message has been deleted.

Threat to other is a violation of the CoC...
The short version: Treat your fellow posters with courtesy and respect. This means no personal attacks, racial slurs, stalking, etc.

Bruce, telling my buddy domer to 'eat my shorts' in another language is hardly a threat. Just a jest between friends. Don't tell me Bart Simpson violates CoC.

If domer got pissed off and said something, I'd have deleted and apologized. I don't even know if he's seen it yet, and I don't think it would bother him if he did. I don't know who reported this to you, but it's probably just one of those guys who want to blame me for everything since original sin.

Please consider relaxing that trigger finger. And you may want to consider taking complaints at more than mere face value.