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Post by Miss Tequila on Jun 12, 2013 16:03:26 GMT -5
The other thread got me thinking about this...
Why do gay guys have such a flair for fashion and design while lesbians tend to sport mullets and wear ugly watches? I know I'm generalizing but come on, you all know what I'm talking about. There is no one better to take shopping with you than a gay guy! And I had a gay interior designer who was FABULOUS!!! Why did the gay women seem to get jipped in this area?
Full disclosure, I am female, I am not a lesbian and yet I have absolutely no flair for design...somedays I think I'm one bad haircut away from being a lesbian...well, that and my love of the male organ
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 16:04:44 GMT -5
I have the fashion sense of a gay man and the brute strength of a lesbian rugby player.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jun 12, 2013 16:05:49 GMT -5
I have the fashion sense of a gay man and the brute strength of a lesbian rugby player.
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Post by Bob Ross on Jun 12, 2013 16:08:51 GMT -5
Um. Because (stereotypically) gay guys are more like women, while butch lesbians are more like men? But it's not all bad for the butch lesbians. Who are you gonna call when you need help moving, or your furnace repaired?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 16:09:42 GMT -5
I think you are indeed generalizing.
I've met lesbians that are more girly than my wife and gays that are more manly than I man.
But in your case you are talking about "butch" females which is not all lesbians and more effeminate gay guys... And Bob Ross answer would fit that bill.
Also from being friends with lesbians/gays I have learned there is a whole subculture: ex: I doubt you would pick the bears/cubs as gay in a lineup.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jun 12, 2013 16:14:33 GMT -5
I think you are indeed generalizing. I've met lesbians that are more girly than my wife and gays that are more manly than I man. But in your case you are talking about "butch" females which is not all lesbians and more effeminate gay guys... And Bob Ross answer would fit that bill. Also from being friends with lesbians/gays I have learned there is a whole subculture: ex: I doubt you would pick the bears/cubs as gay in a lineup. Ok, you have a point. But my aunt is a lesbian (she is a lipstick lesbian...she is very femine and pretty...the exception to my rule!lol) so I have been around a lot of homosexual people during my life. And more often than not, the females are more butchy and don't have the flair that the gay guys do for clothes, etc.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jun 12, 2013 16:16:57 GMT -5
I want to know why gay women get their own title and gay men are stuck with gay or homosexual. They don't have a cool separate name like lesbian. They got shafted!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jun 12, 2013 16:17:41 GMT -5
I want to know why gay women get their own title and gay men are stuck with gay or homosexual. They don't have a cool separate name like lesbian. They got shafted! Oh, they get shafted all right....
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Post by busymom on Jun 12, 2013 16:19:03 GMT -5
But haven't you noticed? When a gay couple is together, one is more "masculine" & the other is more "feminine". I've noticed that with both men & women. I've worked in the fashion industry in the past, & some of the gay men were the BEST at accessorizing!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jun 12, 2013 16:20:34 GMT -5
But haven't you noticed? When a gay couple is together, one is more "masculine" & the other is more "feminine". I've noticed that with both men & women. I've worked in the fashion industry in the past, & some of the gay men were the BEST at accessorizing! I have noticed that but still, more often than not even the feminine one isn't that fashionable. Maybe my aunt just had frumpy friends and I'm assuming all lesbians lack a flair for style! Exactly on the gay men...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 16:24:10 GMT -5
I think you are indeed generalizing. I've met lesbians that are more girly than my wife and gays that are more manly than I man. But in your case you are talking about "butch" females which is not all lesbians and more effeminate gay guys... And Bob Ross answer would fit that bill. Also from being friends with lesbians/gays I have learned there is a whole subculture: ex: I doubt you would pick the bears/cubs as gay in a lineup. Ok, you have a point. But my aunt is a lesbian (she is a lipstick lesbian...she is very femine and pretty...the exception to my rule!lol) so I have been around a lot of homosexual people during my life. And more often than not, the females are more butchy and don't have the flair that the gay guys do for clothes, etc. True but rarely do I meet a couple where both females are butchy vs I have met plenty of gay couples where I couldn't guess who was bottom or top or in some cases they were both bottoms and tops ... Also from personal experience I have met more gay men that could pass as straight vs the ones that couldn't act straight to save their lives. But I will give you this: all of them are 100% more fashionable than I am spend more on clothes/shoes than I will ever dream too and usually look 100 times better than I do. This confuse me because most of the gay men I am friends would never try to pick up the guys I see at the picket line against homosexuality and saying how they wouldn't want gay men to hit on them. Gay men seems to have higher standards than most straight female I know when it comes to the look department. If you have Instagram I will PM you some of my friends names; I would kill to look like most of those guys all the time.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 12, 2013 18:02:00 GMT -5
I want to know why gay women get their own title and gay men are stuck with gay or homosexual. They don't have a cool separate name like lesbian. They got shafted! Lesbian is derived from the name of the Greek Island of lesbians, home to the ancient Greek Poetess Sappho. Sappho and the subjects of her poetry were eventually associated (late 1800s) with Lesbianism. lesbians
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 12, 2013 18:23:38 GMT -5
My hairdresser is a lesbian, and she is very pretty and girly. But, she was telling me about Pride, and she said "There were so many guys that were great looking, but there were no pretty girls, except me, my girlfriend and our friends that we were with." I told her that it certainly fit the stereotype. She agreed that even in practice it was 90% butch and 10% lipstick lesbians. And then she said "That is probably generous." So, once again we have the saying "Stereotypes happen for a reason."
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jun 12, 2013 19:03:42 GMT -5
Um. Because (stereotypically) gay guys are more like women, while butch lesbians are more like men? Asked and answered.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jun 12, 2013 20:38:42 GMT -5
I want to know why gay women get their own title and gay men are stuck with gay or homosexual. They don't have a cool separate name like lesbian. They got shafted! Lesbian is derived from the name of the Greek Island of lesbians, home to the ancient Greek Poetess Sappho. Sappho and the subjects of her poetry were eventually associated (late 1800s) with Lesbianism. lesbiansI didn't ask where their name came from, I knew that. I asked why the guys haven't found an equally interesting name
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 12, 2013 20:45:09 GMT -5
Lesbian is derived from the name of the Greek Island of lesbians, home to the ancient Greek Poetess Sappho. Sappho and the subjects of her poetry were eventually associated (late 1800s) with Lesbianism. lesbiansI didn't ask where their name came from, I knew that. I asked why the guys haven't found an equally interesting name Because they didn't come from an equally interesting place? The guys go by a number of names they call themselves. Some we can post here. Others not.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 12, 2013 21:08:10 GMT -5
I find it bizarre when I can't tell if someone is a man or a woman. Why, if you were one, would you want to look like the other? No one should be wondering what sex you are.
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Post by Queen of Interesting Nuts on Jun 13, 2013 5:49:10 GMT -5
There is a whole subculture to that, even I don't know all of it.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 13, 2013 7:21:13 GMT -5
Wow. Just wow.
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Post by genericname on Jun 13, 2013 10:55:15 GMT -5
My brother was a "butch" gay man. He even liked flannel and biker gear. His SO was just a dude. Didn't look one way or the other, just fit in with "normal" wherever he was.
I hang around with a lot of lesbian women (through sports mainly) and there are very few of the "lipstick" variety among that crowd. The couples I know are both very manly in appearance and dress. It could be the region of the country I am in, too. I am generalizing, but I would venture a guess that the "lipstick" variety are more common in urban areas. In the "country" where I am, many women dress "butch" and are very manly in appearance, but are as straight as anyone I know. It just doesn't make sense to be fluffy and girly when you are throwing hay bales and driving a tractor all day long.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:10:28 GMT -5
It just doesn't make sense to be fluffy and girly when you are throwing hay bales and driving a tractor all day long.I don't know about that...Wouldn't it be nice to have a cool breeze blow up your pink frock every now & then?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:11:50 GMT -5
We have one gay (or lesbian) friend. She does dress manly. I haven't met her SO yet so I have no idea how she dresses.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:14:14 GMT -5
Oh, Tina....
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jun 13, 2013 11:18:55 GMT -5
My brother was a "butch" gay man. He even liked flannel and biker gear. His SO was just a dude. Didn't look one way or the other, just fit in with "normal" wherever he was. I hang around with a lot of lesbian women (through sports mainly) and there are very few of the "lipstick" variety among that crowd. The couples I know are both very manly in appearance and dress. It could be the region of the country I am in, too. I am generalizing, but I would venture a guess that the "lipstick" variety are more common in urban areas. In the "country" where I am, many women dress "butch" and are very manly in appearance, but are as straight as anyone I know. It just doesn't make sense to be fluffy and girly when you are throwing hay bales and driving a tractor all day long. I guess I will never get teh draw of looking butchy or manly. I pretty much assume that anyone that looks butch is a lesbian...I guess I suck at the Pat game
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:20:13 GMT -5
some of us are just philosophically opposed to makeup.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:33:16 GMT -5
My sister announced over the weekend that she and her girlfriend got engaged.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jun 13, 2013 11:38:42 GMT -5
My sister announced over the weekend that she and her girlfriend got engaged. So...are they butch?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:44:38 GMT -5
My sister announced over the weekend that she and her girlfriend got engaged. So...are they butch? I don;t think so. You might guess that my sister is gay by looking at her, but she is not butch. Her fiance is not butch, either. She was actually married to a man before and this is her first lesbian relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:46:43 GMT -5
So can they get married in your state, or do they have to travel?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 11:47:29 GMT -5
So can they get married in your state, or do they have to travel? They can get married here. My mom asked them that too. Her actual words were "can you do that here?"
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