Queen of Interesting Nuts
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Post by Queen of Interesting Nuts on Jun 9, 2013 10:47:02 GMT -5
Went grocery shopping with my girl last night, what a mess. Do not ever believe that your kids are listening to you as you think you are in teaching moments. They aren't, at all.
Where is the rice or potatoes? I might write a book, because I think that is a cool name for a book. They think a meal is XXXX plus XXX, mom I don't know how to cook. WTF did I just spend 20 years doing every morning, noon and night. Were you not paying attention at all...I say.
Just an observation that I thought I would share..
Cheeze its are at the top of the food pyramid apparently.
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Post by Opti on Jun 9, 2013 11:42:11 GMT -5
I think doing always trumps watching. My Mom taught me how to bake at an early age but I don't think I was asked to do much cooking. Luckily because I had used recipes for years the transistion to cooking for myself wasn't hard but I think if she had us make dinners for the family after a certain age that would have been even better.
Its not too late. You can always have her over for a Sunday lunch or dinner and prepare it together.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 11:44:08 GMT -5
Or give her a basic cookbook. One with pictures
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Post by Queen of Interesting Nuts on Jun 9, 2013 11:48:06 GMT -5
Man you certainly find out your failings as a parent at this age.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 11:55:15 GMT -5
Who says you failed? Maybe she just has no interest. My mother was an awful cook and insisted the ability and interest in cooking skipped a generation. My grandmothers both loved to cook and were good at it. DM couldn't cook to save her life, but I can and do. My DD would rather be in labor than cook. DGD loves to cook.
See? Maybe it's just a generation thing.
Maybe buy her one of those "almost homemade" cookbooks. And thank heaven for bagged salads.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jun 9, 2013 11:58:52 GMT -5
It's not about you failing as a parent. She's about to be a parent herself. Parenting is a complete crapshoot. Sometimes you produce a genius. Sometimes you produce an ax murderer. Most of the time, your kid falls somewhere in between. You can do as much as you can do, and after that, they have to work things out.
DD still has hope, however. Planned Parenthood and Healthy Mothers/Healthy Babies offer nutrition and simple cooking/food prep classes. Adult education classes, usually offered at local high schools, also offer them. Restaurants and culinary schools in Florida are slow in the summer, and often make up the revenue loss by offering cheap classes. Some of the larger Publix grocery stores have Apron Cooking Schools (we only have two stores in this county that do; you may have more).
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Post by steff on Jun 9, 2013 12:16:58 GMT -5
My kiddo often stood in the kitchen watching & handing me stuff while I cooked. But once he needed to actually cook something start to finish on his own, he was totally lost. So I started having him do the actual cooking while I just talked him thru it & handed him stuff. Now he can cook about 6 simple easy meals for himself.
I never considered that I somehow "failed" as a mom because he was helping but not really listening beyond "hand me the onions". He's a teenager. In one ear, float around the teen jelly brain for awhile & then out the other ear. It just floats around to fool us parents into thinking they actually retained it. I've also found that at this age, he's still into the shortcut/quick foods because he has things to do (in his opinion). While I would make tacos, rice & beans, he's going to make tacos. I would make oven fried chicken & mashed potatoes, he's going to have oven fried chicken & a bowl of bbq sauce to dip it in.
There really is no actual rule that says dinner has to have rice or potatoes. They're going to eat what THEY want, not what we THINK they should be having.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 9, 2013 12:56:12 GMT -5
I didn't really follow your post, but many people have given up rice and potatoes. White rice has little redeeming nutritional value, and potatoes are villainized these days, for a variety of reasons. The new thought process is that we need more protein and less carbs, so cheese, nuts, lean meats and beans have traveled up on the list of important foods. I personally don't want a diet void of rice and potatoes, but my MIL has been eating a traditional "Diabetes" diet for 30 years - not because she has diabetes, but because my FIL does. I can't argue that my MIL is the thinnest of her 5 sisters, in some cases by a hundred pounds. So, maybe giving up the starches that send your blood sugar all over the place isn't the worst nutritional advice you can get.
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Post by Shooby on Jun 9, 2013 13:02:05 GMT -5
Rice and potatoes are a staple at my house. It is one of the few things i can count on that everyone likes and will eat.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 13:10:28 GMT -5
Everything in moderation is best thing that's what I think. If you don't have a physical condition enable you to have a certain type of foods.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 13:18:53 GMT -5
I didn't really follow your post, but many people have given up rice and potatoes. White rice has little redeeming nutritional value, and potatoes are villainized these days, for a variety of reasons. The new thought process is that we need more protein and less carbs, so cheese, nuts, lean meats and beans have traveled up on the list of important foods. I personally don't want a diet void of rice and potatoes, but my MIL has been eating a traditional "Diabetes" diet for 30 years - not because she has diabetes, but because my FIL does. I can't argue that my MIL is the thinnest of her 5 sisters, in some cases by a hundred pounds. So, maybe giving up the starches that send your blood sugar all over the place isn't the worst nutritional advice you can get. I have given up starches and wheat. I don't know about everyone but for me they give me a sugar crash and pack on the weight. I've done it before and gone back and paid the price. I'm 3 weeks in and already my appetite has shrunk and I've lost about 10 lbs. I eat much healthier when I can't fill up on bread and potatoes.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 9, 2013 17:12:24 GMT -5
That pyramid was written by a bunch of D.C. lawyers with the "help" of lobbyists. At no point was a nutritionist consulted. 11 servings of starches per day really doesn't make much sense. That alone could easily top the standard 2000 calories per day, without adding a single piece of fruit, or any protein at all. The pyramid is flawed.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 9, 2013 17:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 17:17:13 GMT -5
That pyramid was written by a bunch of D.C. lawyers with the "help" of lobbyists. At no point was a nutritionist consulted. 11 servings of starches per day really doesn't make much sense. That alone could easily top the standard 2000 calories per day, without adding a single piece of fruit, or any protein at all. The pyramid is flawed. That might be true in some extend. thyme Your body will tell you eventually.
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Post by Apple on Jun 9, 2013 20:03:03 GMT -5
My body tells me it wants potato chips. It cannot be trusted
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 20:07:44 GMT -5
I've been eating tons of potato chips and loosing weight. I am picky about the oil, but seriously, I'm telling you, learn what your body likes and it will use it...
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Post by swamp on Jun 9, 2013 20:09:15 GMT -5
Yeah, my body thinks it needs cheesecake.
Naggoe, I couldn't really cook when I was 19 either. I could make what my mom told me to make for dinner, and I could follow a recipe, but i would not or could not have bothered to do a meal plan. I also would probably not bother to cook a whole meal complete with a starch and veggie.
Through trial and error, I learned
It's not about how you did as a parent, it's how 19 year olds prioritize.
ETA: and I very rarely include a starch with dinner now. I try to avoid them. Not good for me.
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Post by Jaguar on Jun 9, 2013 20:10:36 GMT -5
Potato chips have potassium.
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Post by sapphire12 on Jun 9, 2013 20:14:13 GMT -5
I stopped eating white rice because I find it devoid of flavor without lots of extra stuff so I don't bother. I could say the same for potatoes. I stopped eating a starch with my dinner years ago, even though I grew up with a starch. Meh. I'm happy with grilled fish and a veggie. I reserve those calories for a bowl of ice cream.
Every so often I crave lays wavy potato chips and sour cream dip. I indulge for a week and then the craving goes away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 20:21:10 GMT -5
I eat a lot of meals that are protein only. However I also don't like to cook so unless I'm doing something like a family holiday meal I rarely make a meat, starch, veg meal.
I can't take any pyramid seriously if it doesn't have a potato chip, chocolate or wine section.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 9, 2013 22:47:53 GMT -5
I eat a lot of meals that are protein only. However I also don't like to cook so unless I'm doing something like a family holiday meal I rarely make a meat, starch, veg meal. I can't take any pyramid seriously if it doesn't have a potato chip, chocolate or wine section. Whatcha talkin' bout? Potatoes and chocolate are veggies. So you need to have 3-5 servings/day. Serving size is important so remember that one bag of potato chips=one serving (why else would they be in one bag right?) And similarly one full size bar of chocolate is one serving. Wine is fruit in liquid form so you need 2-4 servings of that. Size of the glass is at your discretion. Just remember that more fruit is better. After this lesson , are you still doubting that the food pyramid is anything but perfect?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 7:54:41 GMT -5
Naggie, it won't hurt your DD a bit (nor the rest of us) to cut way down on "white" foods...white bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, sugar. Should she develop gestational diabetes, those are the first things her doctor will tell her to eliminate from her diet.
You haven't failed...most of us were raised believing that we had to have meat and potatoes/rice. Now we know better. Maybe you could suggest to her that at her next appointment, she ask her doctor for a list of good-for-her foods and a list of foods she should avoid.
Heck, I'd hate to be hanging since the last time I was pregnant (!), but my doctor hands me such a list whenever I have an appointment...even when all I'm there for is blood tests.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 10, 2013 8:22:40 GMT -5
I ate tons of starches when I was 19. I did it for the same reasons everyone else did.
1) They were very cheap. 2) We were told a diet low in fat and high in starch would fill us up and keep us skinny - WRONG!
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Post by michelyn8 on Jun 10, 2013 8:28:21 GMT -5
Went grocery shopping with my girl last night, what a mess. Do not ever believe that your kids are listening to you as you think you are in teaching moments. They aren't, at all. Where is the rice or potatoes? I might write a book, because I think that is a cool name for a book. They think a meal is XXXX plus XXX, mom I don't know how to cook. WTF did I just spend 20 years doing every morning, noon and night. Were you not paying attention at all...I say. Just an observation that I thought I would share.. Cheeze its are at the top of the food pyramid apparently. I've found that people in general do not pay attention to anything someone else does anymore (if they ever did). Why bother to try and learn something when you can just get someone else to do it for your or ask when you're ready to find out how they did it. I see this a whole lot in the working world and have come to the conclusion that I'm an exception to the rule since I like knowing how what I do affects the work of others and how their work will affect mine. My mother didn't "teach" me how to cook or even show me all that much. I learned by doing and if I wanted to know how she did something, I either watched her as she did it or asked her. Its been the same with my kids and all of them can cook pretty well and have diets no better or worse than mine when I was single and childless or what they had growing up with me and my mother.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 8:34:25 GMT -5
There are some things that "came back to me" once I became a parent. I ate like crap when I lived alone and was young and single. I just didn't care. Same here. I lived at fast food joints all through college and several years later. I had the money and it was easy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 10:28:36 GMT -5
we still do starches at home for the same reason Shooby does - I know they'll get eaten... although I am getting pickier about the types of starches that I cook/eat. I'm cooking sweet potatoes instead of regular potatoes to go with the meatloaf I have planned this week. And since DS loves pasta and hates his veggies, I make him pasta made with vegetable powder so at least he's getting something good. I also snuck sweet potato into his cheese quesadilla for lunch on Friday and he loved it! Well, he loved it until he realized he was being tricked.... I can't bring myself to get rid of white pasta and rice in our house though - DH refuses to eat wheat pasta or brown rice - so I just try to minimize the dinners per week that have them. We usually have one dish with rice and one dish with pasta per week.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 10, 2013 10:39:31 GMT -5
mmmm - pasta.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 10:42:43 GMT -5
I am currently eating salted new potatoes drenched in melted butter. It's a delicacy!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 10:47:41 GMT -5
My lunch will be tuna salad over spinach. Dinner will be chicken fried rice though.
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