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Post by Value Buy on Jan 4, 2013 10:42:41 GMT -5
I see Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera, of Quatar. He refused to sell it to Glenn Beck. He wanted to sell to someone that more closely fit his ideals. And to think this guy was a heartbeat from the Presidency for eight years. I am surprised no one has posted this news here by now.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 4, 2013 10:48:18 GMT -5
I am surprised no one posted anything about this..al -Jazeera purchased the TV channel founded by former VP and his partners, Al Gore..he by the way may earn about $125 million on the deal according to the article ..not bad for a seven year investment...IMHO. They will be in 40 million homes and will be expanding their presence by more hiring and opening other bureaus in the US besides the main one in NY and Washington. www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/02/al-jazeera-current-tv_n_2398294.html
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 4, 2013 10:49:32 GMT -5
I read Al Jazeera quite a lot....seems reasonable to me and there a many American bloggers.......Is there a problem?
or do you want all the news to be partisan?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 10:52:45 GMT -5
I read Al Jazeera quite a lot....seems reasonable to me and there a many American bloggers.......Is there a problem? or do you want all the news to be partisan? We already have CNN for left leaning reporting on cable news. What are they going to do, divide up the last 27 viewers that watch that kind of thing?
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 4, 2013 12:11:24 GMT -5
News should be impartial... should it not?
There is little point in just watching the news that you want hear.... instead of the truth. You open yourself to manipulation for whatever oligarch is in control of the media......Rupert Murdoch I'd hazard a guess. Who elected him? If you want real freedom you have to rid yourself of those with an agenda. It may not be what you want to hear....but its better than being manipulated by someone with their grubby fingers in the pot.
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Post by pepper112765 on Jan 4, 2013 12:18:08 GMT -5
News should be impartial... should it not? There is little point in just watching the news that you want hear.... instead of the truth. You open yourself to manipulation for whatever oligarch is in control of the media......Rupert Murdoch I'd hazard a guess. Who elected him? If you want real freedom you have to rid yourself of those with an agenda. It may not be what you want to hear....but its better than being manipulated by someone with their grubby fingers in the pot. Basically, you are saying that they need to be media literate.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 4, 2013 12:24:34 GMT -5
I'm saying they need to be impartial.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 12:37:22 GMT -5
I'm saying they need to be impartial..... Impartiality on the news seemed to have ended with the start of editorializing, a long time ago. Now media management decides how much of, or what stories you're going to hear.
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Post by usaone on Jan 4, 2013 12:46:20 GMT -5
He didnt refuse.
Al Jazera offered 200 Million more than Beck.
Talk about spin. How about we tell the truth and leave the spin to others.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 4, 2013 12:50:44 GMT -5
i think this is a good move for them.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 4, 2013 12:51:55 GMT -5
I read Al Jazeera quite a lot....seems reasonable to me and there a many American bloggers.......Is there a problem? or do you want all the news to be partisan? We already have CNN for left leaning reporting on cable news. What are they going to do, divide up the last 27 viewers that watch that kind of thing? i don't think that CNN is particularly left wing. but then again, i don't think FOX is particularly right wing.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 4, 2013 12:53:34 GMT -5
News should be impartial... should it not? There is little point in just watching the news that you want hear.... instead of the truth. You open yourself to manipulation for whatever oligarch is in control of the media......Rupert Murdoch I'd hazard a guess. Who elected him? If you want real freedom you have to rid yourself of those with an agenda. It may not be what you want to hear....but its better than being manipulated by someone with their grubby fingers in the pot. if you are interested in the truth, and exposing bias, it is IMPOSSIBLE to do that with ONLY mainstream or right wing or left wing opinion. you need combinations of opinion- to study how stories are told from multiple perspectives, to avoid the sort of echo chamber thinking that made Romney think he was going to win.
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 4, 2013 13:05:44 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 4, 2013 13:34:36 GMT -5
I see Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera, of Quatar. He refused to sell it to Glenn Beck. He wanted to sell to someone that more closely fit his ideals. And to think this guy was a heartbeat from the Presidency for eight years. I am surprised no one has posted this news here by now. VB-When you go into the voting booth, I would imagine you vote for the candidate who most closely fits your ideals, yes?
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Post by TonyTiger on Jan 4, 2013 13:39:48 GMT -5
al-Jazeera is a Muslim-Arab -owned and operated news service, and, for some strange reason, ever since, oh... let's say... September 11, 2001... many (most?) folks in the States aren't terribly fond of Muslims, or Arabs in general... ====================================== "...Since 9/11 U.S. officials have claimed an anti-American bias to Al Jazeera's news coverage.[44][45] The station first gained widespread attention in the West following the September 11, 2001 attacks, when it broadcast videos in which Osama bin Laden and Sulaiman Abu Ghaith defended and justified the attacks. This led to significant controversy and accusations by the United States government that Al Jazeera was engaging in propaganda on behalf of terrorists. Al Jazeera countered that it was merely making information available without comment, and several western television channels later followed suit in broadcasting portions of the tapes. At an 3 October 2001 press conference, Colin Powell tried to persuade the emir of Qatar to shut down Al Jazeera.[46][47][48] On 13 November 2001, during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, a U.S. missile strike destroyed Al Jazeera's office in Kabul. There were no casualties.[49] On 12 October 2008, Al Jazeera broadcast interviews with people attending a Sarah Palin 2008 United States presidential election rally in St. Clairsville, Ohio, with interviewees making comments about Barack Obama such as "he regards white people as trash" and "I'm afraid if he wins, the blacks will take over". The report received over 2 million views on YouTube[50] and elicited comment by Colin Powell: "Those kind of images going out on Al Jazeera are killing us."[51] Following this the Washington Post ran an op-ed,[52] claiming the news channel was deliberately encouraging "anti-American sentiment overseas",[52] which was criticized by Al Jazeera as "a gratuitous and uninformed shot at Al Jazeera's motives", as the report was just one of "hundreds of hours of diverse coverage".[51] Some critics have alleged that al-Jazeera has censored criticism of the United States under U.S. pressure.[53] Al Jazeera English's former director, Wadah Khanfar resigned in September 2011 following Wikileaks documents that asserted that he had close ties to the U.S. and agreed to remove content if the United States objected.[54][55] Some of Al Jazeera's competitors have claimed that Al Jazeera is pro-American. RT, a Russian network sometimes criticized for an alleged Anti-Western bias,[56] asserted that the Wikileaks documents concerning Wadah Khanfar (see above) proves that Al Jazeera is pro-American.[57] Voice of Russia made the same claim. Another rival, Iranian Press TV, has also published articles critical of Al Jazeera, claiming that Al Jazeera has Pro-American bias and serving Israeli interests. Their criticism of Al Jazeera came along with criticism of Qatar's government, and reports of rallies against the government.[58][59]..." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism======================================== State-owned, by Qatar, one of the more repressive and autocratic Muslim-Arab regimes on the face of the planet, and one which (to this very day) still engages in Slavery, with respect to many of its imported foreign workers...Small wonder why some folks believe that al-Jazeera was right up ol' Al Gore's alley...
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 4, 2013 13:47:29 GMT -5
al-Jazeera is a Muslim-Arab -owned and operated news service, and, for some strange reason, every since, oh... let's say... September 11, 2001... many (most?) folks in the States aren't terribly fond of Muslims, or Arabs in general... ====================================== "...Since 9/11 U.S. officials have claimed an anti-American bias to Al Jazeera's news coverage. first of all, i don't know what that means. being critical of the US foreign policy since 911 is not "anti-American". but secondly, AJ was considered "pro-American" prior to that point in time by others in the middle east, for their relentless criticism of the ruling regimes in that area. personally, i think they are just a good, adversarial news oranization. like newspapers used to be in the US about 40 years ago.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 4, 2013 13:55:59 GMT -5
We already have CNN for left leaning reporting on cable news. What are they going to do, divide up the last 27 viewers that watch that kind of thing? i don't think that CNN is particularly left wing. but then again, i don't think FOX is particularly right wing. Huh..?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 4, 2013 13:58:00 GMT -5
just doing a little cleanup of duplicate threads -chiver mod No problem...I didn't know that there was another one on the topic..was going to post it earlier but was over the limit on new threads ..had to wait a day or so..didn't see the other one..just thought I was the first one on the topic..
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 4, 2013 13:59:36 GMT -5
i don't think that CNN is particularly left wing. but then again, i don't think FOX is particularly right wing. Huh..? want me to back that up? ;D
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 4, 2013 14:05:41 GMT -5
al-Jazeera is a Muslim-Arab -owned and operated news service, and, for some strange reason, ever since, oh... let's say... September 11, 2001... many (most?) folks in the States aren't terribly fond of Muslims, or Arabs in general... ====================================== "...Since 9/11 U.S. officials have claimed an anti-American bias to Al Jazeera's news coverage.[44][45] The station first gained widespread attention in the West following the September 11, 2001 attacks, when it broadcast videos in which Osama bin Laden and Sulaiman Abu Ghaith defended and justified the attacks. This led to significant controversy and accusations by the United States government that Al Jazeera was engaging in propaganda on behalf of terrorists. Al Jazeera countered that it was merely making information available without comment, and several western television channels later followed suit in broadcasting portions of the tapes. At an 3 October 2001 press conference, Colin Powell tried to persuade the emir of Qatar to shut down Al Jazeera.[46][47][48] On 13 November 2001, during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, a U.S. missile strike destroyed Al Jazeera's office in Kabul. There were no casualties.[49] On 12 October 2008, Al Jazeera broadcast interviews with people attending a Sarah Palin 2008 United States presidential election rally in St. Clairsville, Ohio, with interviewees making comments about Barack Obama such as "he regards white people as trash" and "I'm afraid if he wins, the blacks will take over". The report received over 2 million views on YouTube[50] and elicited comment by Colin Powell: "Those kind of images going out on Al Jazeera are killing us."[51] Following this the Washington Post ran an op-ed,[52] claiming the news channel was deliberately encouraging "anti-American sentiment overseas",[52] which was criticized by Al Jazeera as "a gratuitous and uninformed shot at Al Jazeera's motives", as the report was just one of "hundreds of hours of diverse coverage".[51] Some critics have alleged that al-Jazeera has censored criticism of the United States under U.S. pressure.[53] Al Jazeera English's former director, Wadah Khanfar resigned in September 2011 following Wikileaks documents that asserted that he had close ties to the U.S. and agreed to remove content if the United States objected.[54][55] Some of Al Jazeera's competitors have claimed that Al Jazeera is pro-American. RT, a Russian network sometimes criticized for an alleged Anti-Western bias,[56] asserted that the Wikileaks documents concerning Wadah Khanfar (see above) proves that Al Jazeera is pro-American.[57] Voice of Russia made the same claim. Another rival, Iranian Press TV, has also published articles critical of Al Jazeera, claiming that Al Jazeera has Pro-American bias and serving Israeli interests. Their criticism of Al Jazeera came along with criticism of Qatar's government, and reports of rallies against the government.[58][59]..." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism======================================== State-owned, by Qatar, one of the more repressive and autocratic Muslim-Arab regimes on the face of the planet, and one which (to this very day) still engages in Slavery, with respect to many of its imported foreign workers...Small wonder why some folks believe that al-Jazeera was right up ol' Al Gore's alley... Small wonder too why some people feel that those "some people " so involved with the criticism of "al Gore " have their prioritys up something too..possible better that they spent all this time worrying about him in the negative to trying to get a life.. For me..would have liked to see the man be the one who came out a winner in that election he took part in..not sure exactly how things would have been different but really believe things would be..for the better...much better. You critics here , you all really believe the way things actually worked out was the best deal for your self, me..the country ..the world???
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 4, 2013 14:09:15 GMT -5
want me to back that up? ;D If you want to...I know that Fox definitly leans and broacasts from the side of the right..they have admitted it..and in a way CNN too and that is the station I normally watch when I look for TV news..watching some particuler segmernt of what is going on in theb world..example, national election coverage... started with Public TV but ended up with CNN...
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 4, 2013 14:13:24 GMT -5
just doing a little cleanup of duplicate threads -chiver mod No problem...I didn't know that there was another one on the topic..was going to post it earlier but was over the limit on new threads ..had to wait a day or so..didn't see the other one..just thought I was the first one on the topic.. no prob, hun. you were within minutes of each other.
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al-Jazeera is a Muslim-Arab -owned and operated news service, and, for some strange reason, ever since, oh... let's say... September 11, 2001... many (most?) folks in the States aren't terribly fond of Muslims, or Arabs in general... ====================================== "...Since 9/11 U.S. officials have claimed an anti-American bias to Al Jazeera's news coverage.[44][45] The station first gained widespread attention in the West following the September 11, 2001 attacks, when it broadcast videos in which Osama bin Laden and Sulaiman Abu Ghaith defended and justified the attacks. This led to significant controversy and accusations by the United States government that Al Jazeera was engaging in propaganda on behalf of terrorists. Al Jazeera countered that it was merely making information available without comment, and several western television channels later followed suit in broadcasting portions of the tapes. At an 3 October 2001 press conference, Colin Powell tried to persuade the emir of Qatar to shut down Al Jazeera.[46][47][48] On 13 November 2001, during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, a U.S. missile strike destroyed Al Jazeera's office in Kabul. There were no casualties.[49] On 12 October 2008, Al Jazeera broadcast interviews with people attending a Sarah Palin 2008 United States presidential election rally in St. Clairsville, Ohio, with interviewees making comments about Barack Obama such as "he regards white people as trash" and "I'm afraid if he wins, the blacks will take over". The report received over 2 million views on YouTube[50] and elicited comment by Colin Powell: "Those kind of images going out on Al Jazeera are killing us."[51] Following this the Washington Post ran an op-ed,[52] claiming the news channel was deliberately encouraging "anti-American sentiment overseas",[52] which was criticized by Al Jazeera as "a gratuitous and uninformed shot at Al Jazeera's motives", as the report was just one of "hundreds of hours of diverse coverage".[51] Some critics have alleged that al-Jazeera has censored criticism of the United States under U.S. pressure.[53] Al Jazeera English's former director, Wadah Khanfar resigned in September 2011 following Wikileaks documents that asserted that he had close ties to the U.S. and agreed to remove content if the United States objected.[54][55] Some of Al Jazeera's competitors have claimed that Al Jazeera is pro-American. RT, a Russian network sometimes criticized for an alleged Anti-Western bias,[56] asserted that the Wikileaks documents concerning Wadah Khanfar (see above) proves that Al Jazeera is pro-American.[57] Voice of Russia made the same claim. Another rival, Iranian Press TV, has also published articles critical of Al Jazeera, claiming that Al Jazeera has Pro-American bias and serving Israeli interests. Their criticism of Al Jazeera came along with criticism of Qatar's government, and reports of rallies against the government.[58][59]..." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism======================================== State-owned, by Qatar, one of the more repressive and autocratic Muslim-Arab regimes on the face of the planet, and one which (to this very day) still engages in Slavery, with respect to many of its imported foreign workers...Small wonder why some folks believe that al-Jazeera was right up ol' Al Gore's alley... Small wonder too why some people feel that those "some people " so involved with the criticism of "al Gore " have their prioritys up something too..possible better that they spent all this time worrying about him in the negative to trying to get a life.. For me..would have liked to see the man be the one who came out a winner in that election he took part in..not sure exactly how things would have been different but really believe things would be..for the better...much better. You critics here , you all really believe the way things actually worked out was the best deal for your self, me..the country ..the world??? We'll never know because the office of POTUS changes a person once he's in there. Like all preceding presidents, Gore the candidate would have to be something else as Gore the POTUS.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 4, 2013 14:58:12 GMT -5
Another pro-Arab TV station in the US isn't going to kill anyone. It might even offer sorely needed perspectives.
Mr. Gore is a raging hypocrite, but this deal in particular was a business sold to the highest bidder. Capitalism in action.
'Nuff said.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 4, 2013 15:16:16 GMT -5
Another pro-Arab TV station in the US isn't going to kill anyone. It might even offer sorely needed perspectives. which other networks are "pro-Arab"?Mr. Gore is a raging hypocrite, but this deal in particular was a business sold to the highest bidder. Capitalism in action. 'Nuff said. indeed.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 4, 2013 15:21:01 GMT -5
want me to back that up? ;D If you want to...I know that Fox definitly leans and broacasts from the side of the right..they have admitted it.. their admission is not that meaningful to me. i can explain that, too.and in a way CNN too and that is the station I normally watch when I look for TV news..watching some particuler segmernt of what is going on in theb world..example, national election coverage... started with Public TV but ended up with CNN... the MSM can't really move outside of a very narrow range of reporting that is fairly centrist. now, the non-news commentators are often right wing. i will grant you that. but that is no longer really "news" as the term is commonly understood. to put it another way, if people want NEWS, the MSM is really a bad place to get it. the bias toward sensationalism and soundbites means that subjects that should get 15 minutes of background and explanation get 30 seconds of overview. it is hard to establish any bias in that little amount of time- other than the standard bias which prevails over ALL commercial TV news.
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If you want to...I know that Fox definitly leans and broacasts from the side of the right..they have admitted it.. their admission is not that meaningful to me. i can explain that, too.and in a way CNN too and that is the station I normally watch when I look for TV news..watching some particuler segmernt of what is going on in theb world..example, national election coverage... started with Public TV but ended up with CNN... the MSM can't really move outside of a very narrow range of reporting that is fairly centrist. now, the non-news commentators are often right wing. i will grant you that. but that is no longer really "news" as the term is commonly understood. to put it another way, if people want NEWS, the MSM is really a bad place to get it. the bias toward sensationalism and soundbites means that subjects that should get 15 minutes of background and explanation get 30 seconds of overview. it is hard to establish any bias in that little amount of time- other than the standard bias which prevails over ALL commercial TV news. What do you feel is the standard bias for all commercial TV news?
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jan 4, 2013 16:05:19 GMT -5
"News should be impartial... should it not?"
It should be, but impartial news has gone the way of the dinosaur. It's been extinct for at least 20 years.
Now the news media is controlled by a handful of media coorperations who decide what you see. And of course that fits into their political agenda.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 4, 2013 16:26:37 GMT -5
I have recently, last year or so, been going back to the major networks for the 6:30 to 7:00 news of the day..when I remember the time..{ I remember when Swayze was on for 15 minutes ..believe it was 6:00 to 6:15 , can you imagine that network big wigs believed that was enough news for the nation} I have been watching ..think I am going to look at CBS for the new year..not saying it's great news but got tired of the other ..need and want just the main sories and then will research those of interest..
There was a interview on Bill O'Rileys show by one of the old CBS anchors..can't remember who now..damn, but anyway..and O'Riley accused the net works of being biased, liberal leaning by most of the on air personnel..Cronkite and others..in defending the way Fox presents their product and the old anchor..{wish I can remember who now ..top man..} agreed but as he said..the difference is..they personally may have felt that way and leaned that way personally politically but you would never know it from what was presented on the air...
I agree..unless one was a fanatic regarding what and how something was presented and not happy unless something like news and commentary was presented slanted in the way they personally feel ..there are those who are that way..LOL..just look around here..MOST of the rest of us , "just want the facts Ma'am..just the facts...." as the good Sgt Friday would say....{ Dragnet for those who are thinking Sgt Friday..? Huh..?}
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 4, 2013 16:28:56 GMT -5
Another pro-Arab TV station in the US isn't going to kill anyone. It might even offer sorely needed perspectives. which other networks are "pro-Arab"?Mr. Gore is a raging hypocrite, but this deal in particular was a business sold to the highest bidder. Capitalism in action. 'Nuff said. indeed. I forget you guys don't get the CBC.
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