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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:01:40 GMT -5
If i see other feet coming up behind them, you would be amazed at how fast i would be able to get off the Throne! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:04:06 GMT -5
shooby, what age do you consider "young children?" That's a good question. And, it seemed to vary for my kids and their maturity. My older son is very tall, physically imposing and just seemed to have more street smarts at an early age versus my younger waif like son. So, i think i have loosened the reign on him earlier. But, if was out to eat say at Eat and Park or something, if they were under 7 or 8 I would make them go in with me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:04:44 GMT -5
Because as long as you can see their feet it'll keep a total psycho from slashing their throat??? What is your point? Because something bad can happen anyway that one should never take any precautions? I take the precautions that i am comfortable with.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 20, 2012 15:08:00 GMT -5
The urinals are always on the edge of the room, usually have little stall like dividers between them, and you're facing the wall while using them. I've never been in a men's bathroom, except ones with showers, where I actually saw another guy's junk. You unzip, do your business, and rezip right in front of the urinal with your back to the main part of the bathroom.
If the idea of it makes you uncomfortable it makes you uncomfortable. Can't change that. I'm just saying, as somebody that's spent a lot more time in male restrooms, if you're worried about your daughter seeing male anatomy it's no more likely than your son seeing a woman with her junk out in the middle of a ladies room.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 20, 2012 15:12:39 GMT -5
I wouldn't say you should never take any precautions, just that you should stick with reasonable precautions because even with unreasonable ones you can't eliminate all risk. Everyone is going to draw the reasonable line in a different place though.
This particular issue might be slightly different for me than it is for some of you because I'm male and have two daughters. If I had a son maybe it wouldn't have been a big deal to keep taking him into the men's room longer. I don't know.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 20, 2012 15:14:55 GMT -5
bathroom or taking them in with me when they were like 3 or 4. If we were somewhere especially crowded I'd wait outside the door while they went in, but that's it. See, I'm still not comfortable doing that with my son. I'm not particularly worried about what people in there might do (although I suppose it is a concern). I'm more worried he is going to have a problem, yell for help & then I'm going to have to go into the men's room & help him. A friend of mine actually has a story about that with her son. She sent him in the men's room & next thing she knows he is yelling "Mom, come wipe my butt". I won't send him into a single stall bathroom alone yet either. His has proven himself capable of getting a door locked & being unable to figure how to unlock it. What kind of condo puts a deadbolt on a bedroom that can't be accessed from the outside .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:15:37 GMT -5
Sorry, not the same thing at all. Women are inside a stall with the door closed. And, so what anyway? I think there are different boundaries between the sexes. Just my opinion. And, there are different modesty issues at different ages. The kids used to walk in and out of the restroom like it was grand central station when they were little. So what? Not so with Dad. Funny, but a lot of men are "pee shy" or at least the ones i know. Now my boys lock the bathroom and if they saw me disrobed they would probably barf a little so of course there are more stricter lines. My DD is very modest. But, her and i will share the bathroom to get ready. I wouldn't do that with my sons.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:16:05 GMT -5
Get ready for my Sexist ShoobyLike Comment........here it ....comes...... I didn't have an issue with taking my sons to the ladies restroom. I think most women are understanding of that being daughters, moms, wives, etc themselves. So, no biggie. However , i DO have an issue when my DD was little with DH taking her out and I did not want her going into the men's restroom because of men using urinals and stuff like that. So for us, dad taking out DD was a trickier situation than vice versa. because seeing a penis would scar her for life? DD was 2 when her brother was born so a penis wasn't a big deal to her. Of cuorse when she announced it to people it was rather embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:16:57 GMT -5
My wife sent my daughter into the stall alone and she turned on the light switch on the stall, which was, of course, the emergency switch, which scared the heck out of everyone.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 20, 2012 15:18:31 GMT -5
Get ready for my Sexist ShoobyLike Comment........here it ....comes...... I didn't have an issue with taking my sons to the ladies restroom. I think most women are understanding of that being daughters, moms, wives, etc themselves. So, no biggie. However , i DO have an issue when my DD was little with DH taking her out and I did not want her going into the men's restroom because of men using urinals and stuff like that. So for us, dad taking out DD was a trickier situation than vice versa. because seeing a penis would scar her for life? DD was 2 when her brother was born so a penis wasn't a big deal to her. Of cuorse when she announced it to people it was rather embarrassing. LMAO!! I agree. I wouldn't have a problem with H taking DD into the men's restroom. That's life. I can't expect both of them to hold it or for him to send DD alone into the women's restroom if she isn't ready. I prefer she accidently see a penis than have to stand outside the men's room alone at a young age.
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Post by 973beachbum on Nov 20, 2012 15:19:53 GMT -5
Wow. I'm a horrible parent I guess. We started leaving the kids home alone for brief periods, like running to the grocery store for a couple things or whatnot, when they were 8 and 9. I stopped escorting them to the bathroom or taking them in with me when they were like 3 or 4. If we were somewhere especially crowded I'd wait outside the door while they went in, but that's it. I started leaving my Dd home alone at that age. DS is 9 and we just started leaving him home alone for a few minutes at a time. That said leaving them home alone for a few minutes isn't the same thing to me as leaving them alone in the vestibule outside the restooms at Walmart. It isn't much of a problem with Womens rooms to me. Most have stalls with doors so who the heck cares if someone's 9 yr old son is waiting there? I guess if it was a mens room with urinals it would be different. My son just started going to the restroom by himself at a few restaurants we frequents. Before normally DH would go with him.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 20, 2012 15:21:14 GMT -5
The urinals are always on the edge of the room, usually have little stall like dividers between them, and you're facing the wall while using them. I've never been in a men's bathroom, except ones with showers, where I actually saw another guy's junk. You unzip, do your business, and rezip right in front of the urinal with your back to the main part of the bathroom. If the idea of it makes you uncomfortable it makes you uncomfortable. Can't change that. I'm just saying, as somebody that's spent a lot more time in male restrooms, if you're worried about your daughter seeing male anatomy it's no more likely than your son seeing a woman with her junk out in the middle of a ladies room. I admit, I'm not comfortable with my DD going into the men's room either. And I don't think her Dad is thrilled with the idea either. Maybe we're overprotective. It could be worse.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:21:19 GMT -5
Get ready for my Sexist ShoobyLike Comment........here it ....comes...... I didn't have an issue with taking my sons to the ladies restroom. I think most women are understanding of that being daughters, moms, wives, etc themselves. So, no biggie. However , i DO have an issue when my DD was little with DH taking her out and I did not want her going into the men's restroom because of men using urinals and stuff like that. So for us, dad taking out DD was a trickier situation than vice versa. because seeing a penis would scar her for life? DD was 2 when her brother was born so a penis wasn't a big deal to her. Of cuorse when she announced it to people it was rather embarrassing. Speaking of embarrassing, my daughter told me last night that she likes to smell her heinie, which means her frontal private area. Do I need to punish her?
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Post by Formerly SK on Nov 20, 2012 15:23:03 GMT -5
My 6&7 yo (opposite gender) kids still shower together. Penises and vaginas are as normal in our house as elbows and knees.
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The urinals are always on the edge of the room, usually have little stall like dividers between them, and you're facing the wall while using them. I've never been in a men's bathroom, except ones with showers, where I actually saw another guy's junk. You unzip, do your business, and rezip right in front of the urinal with your back to the main part of the bathroom. If the idea of it makes you uncomfortable it makes you uncomfortable. Can't change that. I'm just saying, as somebody that's spent a lot more time in male restrooms, if you're worried about your daughter seeing male anatomy it's no more likely than your son seeing a woman with her junk out in the middle of a ladies room. I admit, I'm not comfortable with my DD going into the men's room either. And I don't think her Dad is thrilled with the idea either. Maybe we're overprotective. It could be worse. so what does he do when they're out and she has to go to the bathroom?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 20, 2012 15:27:08 GMT -5
My 6&7 yo (opposite gender) kids still shower together. Penises and vaginas are as normal in our house as elbows and knees. Mine seem to be done taking baths together. And neither likes showers yet. But both run around naked. And they sometimes see me naked. Not DH though. I guess he's more modest than me. He and I did discuss the naked/running around in underwear and came to the conclusion that it pretty much depends on everyone's level of comfort. I don't care if the kids see me in my bra and undies or naked (most of the time) and if they want to run around naked after bathtime, we don't much care. Eventually they'll indicate they're not comfortable with what they see and we'll go from there.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 20, 2012 15:28:12 GMT -5
I admit, I'm not comfortable with my DD going into the men's room either. And I don't think her Dad is thrilled with the idea either. Maybe we're overprotective. It could be worse. so what does he do when they're out and she has to go to the bathroom? We have her go before they leave. And we don't really go out very much so the few places we do go have family restrooms or we're out as a family and I take her.
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Get ready for my Sexist ShoobyLike Comment........here it ....comes...... I didn't have an issue with taking my sons to the ladies restroom. I think most women are understanding of that being daughters, moms, wives, etc themselves. So, no biggie. However , i DO have an issue when my DD was little with DH taking her out and I did not want her going into the men's restroom because of men using urinals and stuff like that. So for us, dad taking out DD was a trickier situation than vice versa. because seeing a penis would scar her for life? DD was 2 when her brother was born so a penis wasn't a big deal to her. Of cuorse when she announced it to people it was rather embarrassing. That isn't what i said and dont' put words in my mouth about "scarring my dd for life". I didn't say that all. And, sorry but those comments were just flat out rude. She has 2 brothers and i am very open and casual about dressing and other things like that. But, yeah, trying to protect your young daughter is something to be mocked here, i forgot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:29:46 GMT -5
Also, where are you guys going that the bathrooms are that bad? Are you taking your kids to 5 finger death punch concerts?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 15:30:49 GMT -5
The situation rarely occured anyway cuz when dd was a very little tyke i took her into Walmart and they had the self flush toilets that sounded like a roaring jet. It scared the bejeepers of out her and then she wouldn't even pee in public and i had to just quit taking her shopping for a couple of years because she wouldn't go into a public restroom.
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Post by 973beachbum on Nov 20, 2012 15:31:16 GMT -5
Also, where are you guys going that the bathrooms are that bad? Are you taking your kids to 5 finger death punch concerts? I more worry about my son wondering off and getting run over in traffic. There is a lot in a mall or Walmart to distract a kid.
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Post by midjd on Nov 20, 2012 15:31:29 GMT -5
Then what are you saying?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 20, 2012 15:32:13 GMT -5
A friend of mine actually has a story about that with her son. She sent him in the men's room & next thing she knows he is yelling "Mom, come wipe my butt".
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 20, 2012 15:33:04 GMT -5
The situation rarely occured anyway cuz when dd was a very little tyke i took her into Walmart and they had the self flush toilets that sounded like a roaring jet. It scared the bejeepers of out her and then she wouldn't even pee in public and i had to just quit taking her shopping for a couple of years because she wouldn't go into a public restroom. OMG, my kids LOVE the automatic flushing toilets.
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Post by giramomma on Nov 20, 2012 15:34:46 GMT -5
I admit, I'm not comfortable with my DD going into the men's room either. And I don't think her Dad is thrilled with the idea either. Maybe we're overprotective. It could be worse. We don't really have a choice about our girls going into the men's room. Since DH works part time, he takes care of the kids when he isn't working. We don't have very many workable options. DH can't go to the bathroom in the women's room. I'm not keen on him wearing adult diapers since he doesn't need them yet, and I can't quit my day job. And, expecting my husband to stay at home with all our kids while I work my 50-60 hour weeks doesn't seem practical, either.
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Post by CarolinaKat on Nov 20, 2012 15:37:45 GMT -5
My 6&7 yo (opposite gender) kids still shower together. Penises and vaginas are as normal in our house as elbows and knees. Mine seem to be done taking baths together. And neither likes showers yet. But both run around naked. And they sometimes see me naked. Not DH though. I guess he's more modest than me. He and I did discuss the naked/running around in underwear and came to the conclusion that it pretty much depends on everyone's level of comfort. I don't care if the kids see me in my bra and undies or naked (most of the time) and if they want to run around naked after bathtime, we don't much care. Eventually they'll indicate they're not comfortable with what they see and we'll go from there. My parents are more modest than I am. when I was a kid apparently I'd throw off all my clothes (and diaper) and run around naked. I still wear as few clothes as I can get by with at home. I guess I got my comuppance when I was 16 and came home early. They were asleep on their bed with their door open stark naked!!!
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 20, 2012 15:44:51 GMT -5
You guys keep mentioning Walmart and other stores. How often do you have to stop to hit the head while shopping? I don't think I've seen the inside of a grocery store or big box store bathroom in a couple decades. You're an adult. You can't hold it until you finish buying your always low price household goods, and hit the head at home? I can understand the kid needing to go to the bathroom while you're out, but then you can send them into the bathroom and wait outside the door.
Restaurants are a little different, because you're eating and drinking, and you're there for a while. The only times I can remember being out with the kids alone and I needed to go to the bathroom were at restaurants. I left the kids at the table and told them to keep eating. I didn't bring them over to the bathroom area with me and have them wait outside.
I don't know, maybe I was being a total jerk for leaving my kindergarten age kids unsupervised for a couple minutes. Mine survived though, and we're way past that stage now, so whatev.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 20, 2012 15:50:20 GMT -5
You guys keep mentioning Walmart and other stores. How often do you have to stop to hit the head while shopping? I don't think I've seen the inside of a grocery store or big box store bathroom in a couple decades. You're an adult. You can't hold it until you finish buying your always low price household goods, and hit the head at home? I can understand the kid needing to go to the bathroom while you're out, but then you can send them into the bathroom and wait outside the door. For me it is always DS needing the bathroom. I don't feel comfortable sending him into the men's alone because he sometimes needs help & so we both go to the lady's room. I think you probably know your kids best. I wouldn't leave my 2 & 4 yr old alone. I don't trust the 2 year old yet & can't expect the 4 year old to watch her. But when they are 4 & 6, it probably wouldn't be a big deal.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 20, 2012 15:59:45 GMT -5
OK, may be TMI, but I was the queen of holding it in before I had 3 kids in 3 yrs. Now? Not so much. Although, I would rather hold it than drag an infant and 2 toddlers into a Walmart bathroom I was just more interested in until what age a boy can go into a woman's bathroom. Don't really care about girls going into a man's room, since I have no girls
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Nov 20, 2012 16:03:50 GMT -5
She didn't put words in your mouth. It wasn't a statement - she asked a question - hence the "?" at the end of her sentence.
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