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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 16:03:31 GMT -5
Did you see where I said I based all my decision on that of one person's testimony? ... Oh, no, you didn't,..
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Post by Malarky on Oct 1, 2012 16:55:33 GMT -5
You can refuse it if you are that adamant against it. I had to sign a form stating I had given the hospital the OK to give the Hep B vaccination to my kid. If I hadn't, she would have left without it. I would have still ended up having to do it though because it's part of the immunizations required for daycare and school under Iowa law. Iowa just passed a law saying tough shit if you don't want to vaccinate, your kid isn't coming to our public schools without them. Good for Iowa, IMHO. So at some point she'll need it. I'd rather have it done when she's at the hospital and I have a bazillion WBVs rather than have to cram a three shot cycle into three separate appointments like I had to. In reality technically it's never too late to vaccinate, you can always go back and get them as an adult if your parents refuse to let you get them. what if it's medically indicated that you shouldn't have a particular vaccine? are those parents just out of luck and have to make the choice to either quit their job and stay home with their kid or take a chance and vaccinate their kid knowing there's a high risk of injury or death? I still have two pages to catch up...but, It was a royal pain in the ass to get DD through school without having her immunizations "on schedule." Excuse me, but we ended up in the ER every time. It wasn't that I'm opposed to them, she just couldn't tolerate them. At 15, she's adult sized, not likely to grow anymore, so we've caught up. Not that there weren't side effects. But at least now she understand what's going on, whereas when she was younger it was all pain and confusion without any clear understanding.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 17:09:05 GMT -5
Did you see where I said I based all my decision on that of one person's testimony? ... Oh, no, you didn't,.. No one said you based your decision on that one person. However you claimed you had done your research and evaluated the background and context when clearly you hadn't.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 1, 2012 17:28:26 GMT -5
Mercola is a quack. He was given awards on Quackwatch. I LOVE Dr. Mercola's website. I think he's spot-on. Quackwatch is funded by Big Pharma! Follow the money . . . . Do you have any info to back this up? Quackwatch is an international network of people concerned about health-related frauds, myths, fads, and fallacies. The primary focus of our Web sites is on quackery-related information that is difficult or impossible to get elsewhere. The organization was founded in 1969 as the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud and was incorporated as a nonprofit in 1970. In 1997, it assumed its current name and began developing a worldwide network of volunteers and expert advisors. The nonprofit corporation was dissolved in 2008 after I moved to North Carolina, but our activities have not changed. Quackwatch has no salaried employees. It operates with minimal expense, funded mainly by small individual donations, commissions from sales on other sites to which we refer, sponsored links, and profits from the sale of publications. Money donated to Quackwatch supports research, writing, and legal actions that can protect many people from being misled. Many people wonder whether Quackwatch is a "front" for the American Medical Association, the pharmaceutical industry, the "medical establishment," or whomever else they might not like. Nearly every week I get e-mails accusing me of this—and worse. Quite frankly, the idea is preposterous. I have no financial tie to any commercial or industrial organization. My viewpoints are not for hire. Even if they were, none of my imaginary funders would actually have a reason to hire me. Standard medicine and "alternative medicine" do not actually compete for patient dollars. Well-designed studies have shown that most "alternative" methods are used in addition to—rather than instead of—standard methods. The total cost of operating our many Web sites is approximately $7,000 per year. If donations and other income fall below what is needed, the rhttp://www.quackwatch.com/00AboutQuackwatch/funding.htmlest comes out of my pocket.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 17:32:56 GMT -5
Actually, what I said is that if I had kids today I would not blindly follow the recommended protocol, but research, prudently delay and prioritize. I have done enough research to know I wouldn't feel comfortable with the protocol.., not enough to know exactly what I'd choose and when because 1) I'm not in the situation and 2) it somewhat depends on the individual child/circumstances.
Congressional testimony was one thing I pulled up yesterday. 1st actually look at the aasp person testimony and say what about the content is wildly dangerous. It reviews the vaers data, discusses conflict of interest, questions some methodology and asks for further study to fill in gaps. Nothing fringe there... The group might be wacky, but if you look at the testimony it isn't alien invasion or anything.
Also, quite frankly, I posted that, out of all the testimony, because it was a doc. Personally I found the RN more compelling in that venue, but there was so much 'you have to trust the doctor' going on here, I wanted to post a doc to get to the point of hey.., just cause they are a doc, does that mean you have to trust them?? ... Ie. Not all doc's agree.
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