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Post by Nazgul Girl on Sept 7, 2012 21:07:57 GMT -5
How did I know *that* would happen with f.d. ? Yes, isn't that something ?
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Post by mollyanna58 on Sept 7, 2012 21:20:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 21:39:04 GMT -5
How did I know *that* would happen with f.d. ? Yes, isn't that something ? Know what would happen with me, Seagul? Fair enough. By the way, what did you decide? Are you letting sleeping dogs lie, talking to the school administration, looking for another school for your kid? I have to be honest, I don't really see the issue with your daughter having a teacher that's a single parent, but I do realize it's an issue for you, so I'm curious how you're handling it. As of now, we're letting it go - and our daughter has no idea of the situation - and we've been strongly backing the teacher in regards to homework and classroom issues.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 21:40:04 GMT -5
To me, this statement looks like "migraines" is what you tell the local pill mill doctor to get a medical marijuana prescription.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 22:21:29 GMT -5
You can get an RX for MM online. Do a search... www.420-evaluations.com/The clinics have giant signs that say "We accept drop-in appointments." The process takes about 20 minutes, requires a short form and a reason you check off that you believe you benefit from the medication. I, personally, have a chronic pain problem in my shoulder and upper back. I also suffer from horrid insomnia. Then again, I don't really have to explain myself or my medical history. I believe it is helpful and I believe that it should be legal because you really do in essence "purchase an RX." I see it kinda like a tax but some doctor is making a fortune off of it. That is why there are so many clinics and you don't need an appt... The only reason pot was made illegal was the logging and paper industry was afraid hemp would put them out of business. You can search that as well if interested.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 22:29:28 GMT -5
Anslinger also wanted to raise the importance of his new department... not to mention the racial overtones to the whole movement to make marijuanna illegal. I'm sure that today there is also quite a bit of pharma money working against its legalization. In fact, in my more conspiracy theory moments, i wonder if the fed continuing to crack down was a factor in pharma giving concessions in the health care act...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2012 6:43:47 GMT -5
How did I know *that* would happen with f.d. ? Yes, isn't that something ? Know what would happen with me, Seagul? If I had to guess... "that" is running to the mods when people are picking on you to close your thread, then threadjacking other topics when the spotlight is no longer on you so you can assert your moral superiority. You seem to think you are morally superior to GPG because you were only worried about your daughter's morality education, while GPG is getting high illegally. You are a good guy because you only gossiped about the teacher and dug into her private life, you didn't actually get her fired. Meanwhile, GPG seems to think she is morally superior to people who drink and drive, or go to work high, or waste the taxpayers money prosecuting minor drug infractions. It is okay for her to break the law because she has health issues which necessitate her use of medical marijuana (even though the health issues in question have changed during the course of this thread and the issues are not so severe as to require her to use the meds while working) Seriously, you two should hang out. Your MO is pretty similar.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 8, 2012 7:38:58 GMT -5
But in FD's case he is willing to put his money where his mouth is to get his daughter the education he desired. In in the other case you reference she wasn't until the prospect of legal persecution came up.
Just saying...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2012 7:53:29 GMT -5
The OP of this thread is talking about personal decisions which impact no one but herself. The standard we were setting for interference on the private school teacher with kid thread, was "if it has the potential to cause others harm". Those were the only cases the OP here was complaining about while 'moralizing'. She was not trying to impose her own arbitrary morals on someone's personal life.
It is an issue to classify marijuanna as medication for the reasons stated. Much like we ignore the impact and side effects, etc. of all the hard core legal drugs people are on these days. We say if its legal, it doesn't matter if you work, drive, parent, etc. on them. I think more things should be regulated as alcohol... legalized rather than decriminalized.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Sept 8, 2012 9:08:53 GMT -5
You can get an RX for MM online. Do a search... www.420-evaluations.com/The clinics have giant signs that say "We accept drop-in appointments." The process takes about 20 minutes, requires a short form and a reason you check off that you believe you benefit from the medication. I, personally, have a chronic pain problem in my shoulder and upper back. I also suffer from horrid insomnia. Then again, I don't really have to explain myself or my medical history. I believe it is helpful and I believe that it should be legal because you really do in essence "purchase an RX." I see it kinda like a tax but some doctor is making a fortune off of it. That is why there are so many clinics and you don't need an appt... The only reason pot was made illegal was the logging and paper industry was afraid hemp would put them out of business. You can search that as well if interested. I am interested because NJ is trying to get its medical marijuana system into operation. Apparently, this is what we have to look forward to: Anyone can get a prescription because they believe they will benefit from it, no real medical exam required, or even possible, if internet prescriptions are allowed. Medical marijuana was intended for people with severe chronic pain that ordinary OTC medications aren't strong enough to relieve. I truly hope you do not fall into this category, because I wouldn't wish suffering on anyone.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 8, 2012 11:43:16 GMT -5
I'm going to go just a bit off topic here....
GPG, if you are truly interested in getting a job locally, you need to consider that smoking weed, even occasionally, could come back and bite you in the butt. Many, many employers are testing now and the possibility of getting caught in this dragnet seems like a poor choice.
Also, didn't you say you are also taking drugs to control other issues? Taking anything that could potentially interfere with that drug's action seems like a less than great idea.
You want to make yourself as attractive as possible to employers. This isn't the way to do it.
JMHO
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Post by The Captain on Sept 8, 2012 11:59:36 GMT -5
Mich1 - I believe GPG has previously stated her views on employer drug testing and, by refusing to submit to the will of "the man", has already to make the decision to eliminate any job possibilities at large employers.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 8, 2012 12:13:36 GMT -5
Mich1 - I believe GPG has previously stated her views on employer drug testing and, by refusing to submit to the will of "the man", has already to make the decision to eliminate any job possibilities at large employers. I'd dearly love to live my life by my rules too, but don't have this luxury. But I like the idea of having a job and money.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2012 12:33:58 GMT -5
We all decide what luxuries are important to us...
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Post by plugginaway22 on Sept 8, 2012 12:49:41 GMT -5
Plenty of small employers around here are testing!
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Sept 8, 2012 12:50:56 GMT -5
A lot of employers in California are hiring people who "fail" the drug test, as long as it's only THC in their system, if they have a valid prescription. Remember they're testing for illegal drugs, and marijuana isn't illegal in the state if you have a prescription. Not all of them, but more than I expected. There's always the option of not smoking for a couple weeks so you can piss clean once, then starting again after you're hired. There are hardly any employers who do ongoing drug testing. It's just the one pre-employment screen.
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Post by susanb on Sept 8, 2012 13:19:32 GMT -5
GPG, I know you have mentioned that you suffer from bipolar.
Of course, you are a grown woman who is going to make your own choices, but may I suggest that you talk to your psychiatrist or doctor who is treating your bipolar about the interaction between this illness and mm? They can also speak to the impact mm will have on the meds you are taking to treat bipolar.
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 8, 2012 14:24:35 GMT -5
The OP of this thread is talking about personal decisions which impact no one but herself. The standard we were setting for interference on the private school teacher with kid thread, was "if it has the potential to cause others harm". Those were the only cases the OP here was complaining about while 'moralizing'. She was not trying to impose her own arbitrary morals on someone's personal life. It is an issue to classify marijuanna as medication for the reasons stated. Much like we ignore the impact and side effects, etc. of all the hard core legal drugs people are on these days. We say if its legal, it doesn't matter if you work, drive, parent, etc. on them. I think more things should be regulated as alcohol... legalized rather than decriminalized. If Foodie wants to keep talking about his scenario he should have the thread unlocked or start a new one instead of bringing it up randomly on other threads.
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Post by Mardi Gras Audrey on Sept 8, 2012 15:05:37 GMT -5
GPG, did you tell the doctor that you have shoulder pain/insomnia or migraines? If you told them migraines to get the prescription and don't have migraines, that is despicable. Let your medical problems stand on their own and let the doctor decide what the most appropriate treatment is. If it is MM, then it is legit in the state of CA. If it isn't MM, you have just lied to a doctor to get a prescription because you like to smoke dope. That is no different than lying to doctor to get other meds because you are an addict (Like the many people addicted to dilaudid, norcos, xanax, oxy, etc). Being an addict is something that needs treatment, not something that needs more RXs.
Full disclosure: I am a migraine sufferer. It affects everyone who legitimately suffers from these ailments when people are faking symptoms/problems to get these drugs because they want to be high. It makes the medical personnel more skeptical and insurers make it harder to get treatment because they are concerned that the legit sufferers are the addicts. I do not use narcotics for my migraines (I am lucky that they can be controlled with triptans, caffeine, and sleep) but there are people who are out there that need stronger meds but can't get them because of the addicts.
Much like the legit welfare/disability receipients face more problems and issues because of the scammers, the legit sufferers of medical ailments also suffer because of addicts who hide behind a legitimate medical issue to get their fix.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Sept 8, 2012 21:35:56 GMT -5
I was wondering about the possible interactions between b.p. treatment pharmaceuticals and marijuana myself. Also, it doesn't make sense to me to stay impoverished due to drug use, and getting high. In college, 42 years ago, I got high several times at concerts. I am extremely sensitive to marijuana smoke, and have gotten a mild contact high a few times since when someone in an apartment down the hall would get high, or smelling it outside at what turned out to be a law enforcement burn. ( That was weird. We had called the police dept. in the small N.E. town that we lived in because of the rank m.j. fumes in the air, and it turned out that law enforcement was doing a burn of confiscated m.j. So, everybody around there had the potential to get a free high if they were outdoors ! ). If you need to earn money, G.P.G., give up toking up for awhile, get the aftereffects out of your system, and maybe you could find a fulltime job with some good benefits.....just my opinion.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 9, 2012 8:49:04 GMT -5
I'm surprised since you're on Medicaid that you had to pay 200 dollars for a script. I'm also surprised at the use of the 200 dollars. That could feed your family for at least two weeks or longer with careful shopping.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2012 9:49:15 GMT -5
Careful shopping... hell, if they just didn't have the munchies all the time.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on Sept 9, 2012 12:55:48 GMT -5
This whole pot growing thing is so confusing, here in Ca.. State says you can grow, Feds say you can't. To further complicate matters, many cities and counties have local ordinances prohibiting or limiting grows to certain zoning areas and a certain # of plants. As to peeking over backyard fences, let me just say that many law enforcement areas are merely flying over, taking photos, to see where grows are
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Post by swamp on Sept 9, 2012 17:20:32 GMT -5
You still need a warrant after doing a flyover, though. At least in NY.
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Post by seriousthistime on Sept 9, 2012 20:30:21 GMT -5
Suppose your neighbors are growing a shit-ton of weed and the cops come to check it out. If they get a search warrant and go on their property, and happen to look over the neighbors fence and see their plants, can they then search the neighbor's property? Or, do they have to obtain another warrant? If you have a long private driveway, can they drive down and look around without a warrant when you aren't home? **While I could claim this is a hypothetical situation, we came home from town yesterday to find the local task force and Discovery channel film crew going door to door yesterday, driving around everyone's private property and walking around in everyone's yard. I thought if they wanted to investigate your property they required a warrant? They claimed they were responding to a complaint of a huge grow (which there is a few of in my area, but the big problem one the guys took their herd of mean dogs and moved back to Sacramento...) but I didn't think they can just walk around on your private property without being invited? While I would be happy to talk to the Discovery channel for their new documentary, I prefer anonymity due to where I live and the fact that things seem to live forever these days online on on film. Well, if they were responding to a complaint about a major weed factory/farm, the police do have a right to enter your yard and ask to talk to you to see what you might know, even if your property is not the problem property. If you don't answer the front door they can go around to the back. Whatever they might see during that time would probably be considered "plain view." As someone else said, they can't start moving things, entering buildings, looking into compartments (tool boxes, drawers, etc.) and so on without a warrant. But if you are talking about someone coming down your driveway and knocking on the door and by the way noticing the plants you had growing, they didn't need a search warrant for that. I doubt that your county has enough resources to give you a hard time about this.
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