Jobless claims up another 4,000 this week

[Value Buy]

Your doing a heck of a job Mr. President!

Refresh my memory.
People vote their pocketbooks in elections.

Regime change is a coming!

[reasonfreedom]

Actually, most people are not smart enough to vote their pocketbooks. They vote based on the trend or what is cool, how do you think Obama was elected?

[Deleted]

Actually, most people are not smart enough to vote their pocketbooks. They vote based on the trend or what is cool, how do you think Obama was elected?

I like to say , this time is different, Too many peoples are hurting.

[Deleted]

More unemployed. Does voting their pocketbooks mean voting for the side that is against unemployment extensions and other social safety net programs they might need to use for the time being? Just wondering?

[Driftr]

Just so noone gets confused later, initial jobless claims were up for the week. That doesn't mean there were more people unemployed last week than the week before. Initial claims never have and aren't supposed to identify the number of people hired during the week.

[workpublic]

or the number of people who's benefits ran out.

[Deleted]

...or the people who just gave up looking...
LINK


Currently only 58.4% of Americans over the age of 16 are employed.

[Value Buy]

A Pew research poll shows Americans have been monetarily hurt more since the "recession was declared over" than when we were in the recession.
Sooner or later Americans will vote their pockebook.
Hmmn, who said about two decades ago,
"It's the economy, stupid!"

[parker1b2]

U.S. Incomes Fell More in Recovery, Sentier Says

www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-23/u-s-incomes-feel-more-in-recovery-sentier-says.html

American incomes declined more in the three-year expansion that started in June 2009 than during the longest recession since the Great Depression, according an analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data by Sentier Research LLC.

Median household income fell 4.8 percent on an inflation- adjusted basis since the recession ended in June 2009, more than the 2.6 percent drop during the 18-month contraction, the research firm’s Gordon Green and John Coder wrote in a report today. Household income is 7.2 percent below the December 2007 level, the former Census Bureau economic statisticians wrote.

“Almost every group is worse off than it was three years ago, and some groups had very large declines in income,” Green, who previously directed work on the Census Bureau’s income and poverty statistics program, said in a phone interview today. “We’re in an unprecedented period of economic stagnation.”

[Deleted]

Yeah, but I'm not employed by choice... I'm also not dumb enough to blame this decline on Obama... If not the same, it would have been much worse under McCain... Actually, I'm sure it would have been much worse...

[cme1201]

Aug 24, 2012 9:41:09 GMT -5 oped said:

Yeah, but I'm not employed by choice... I'm also not dumb enough to blame this decline on Obama... If not the same, it would have been much worse under McCain... Actually, I'm sure it would have been much worse...

Please explain how you come to this conclusion?

[Value Buy]

Aug 24, 2012 9:41:09 GMT -5 oped said:

Yeah, but I'm not employed by choice... I'm also not dumb enough to blame this decline on Obama... If not the same, it would have been much worse under McCain... Actually, I'm sure it would have been much worse...

Not true in my opinion.
McCain would have twisted Harry Reid's arm (somehow, probably a political money bribe, imo) and gotten an actuual budget passed.
This would have been a sign to the business community that Government is no longer logjammed up their yin yang, and back in business.

[Deleted]

Business is and has been doing just fine... Record profits...

On phone, can't go on and on, but I think McCain would have been more austerity, more tax breaks, less infrastructure and at least one more war... Now some wars in our more distant past did help economy, but recent ones no, have to guess more would not have helped...

[djAdvocate]

Aug 24, 2012 7:13:28 GMT -5 @funsnowbird said:

Actually, most people are not smart enough to vote their pocketbooks. They vote based on the trend or what is cool, how do you think Obama was elected?

I like to say , this time is different, Too many peoples are hurting.

different, like in....1936?

[workpublic]

make that 4001 as of this friday.

[mmhmm]

Oh, no, workpublic. If it's you, I'm really sorry.

[Deleted]

U.S. consumer confidence unexpectedly weakened in August to its lowest in nine months as Americans turned more pessimistic about the short-term outlook, according to a private sector report released on Tuesday

www.cnbc.com/id/48811939

Unexpectedly weakened.

[flopsy]

I thought that voting with your pocketbook had to do with the things you chose to consume and who you chose to do business with.

People will vote for whatever they believe to be in their best interest

Aug 24, 2012 9:41:09 GMT -5 oped said:

Yeah, but I'm not employed by choice...

I'm confused. You are being forced to work?

[TonyTiger]

Aug 28, 2012 12:07:06 GMT -5 workpublic said:

make that 4001 as of this friday.

If this is a 'bad thing' (not voluntary) in your book, then, I'm really sorry to hear that, and wish you the best of luck, in whatever comes next...

[Deleted]

I am 'not employed'. This is by choice. I choose not to be employed. A figure which says straight # of people employed/ # of people not employed... does not take into consideration that not all people actually want to be employed at the moment (kids, grandmas, etc, etc...)

[workpublic]

Oh, no, workpublic. If it's you, I'm really sorry.

If this is a 'bad thing' (not voluntary)

new "contractor tenure policy" one year then you're out.
they got caught using contractors as employees. so the knee jerk reaction, get rid of the contractors.

there are three in my dept. but they only have "enough in the budget" to create two employee positions.

i was last hired so...... first fired.

i hope the contrcators who were here nine and five years respectively, get the new positions,

i have an interview with a headhunter on friday for a job in danbury ct(where I want to work). but alas it will still be as a contractor. although he has mentioned "temp to perm" the old carrot they all use.


it's quite arduous finding real work at 52. i'll get $375 a week take home after federal taxes, unemployment(should cover rent, health insurance, car insurance, food). i'll hit my retirement money for a grand a month(to cover everything else). hopefully won't be out for two years this time.


don't tell henry. i'm not ready for a Mcjob(if i can get one) and food stamps(i'll never get section 8 even i qualify for it. there isn't enough to go around and they give it to single mothers before single old men).

[TonyTiger]

Aug 28, 2012 15:02:46 GMT -5 workpublic said:

"...so the knee jerk reaction, get rid of the contractors..."

That's the risk in working a consulting gig, alright; you're the most expendable (and easily detached) ones in the pecking order, alright.

Screw 'em... get crackin'... stay strong... best of luck...!

[workpublic]

That's the risk in working a consulting gig,

i'm in IT. that's all they offer. it's not traditional "consulting" it's "contracting.
read: low paid, unbenefitted, no paid time off(sick, holiday, personal) "employees"
and parasitic insider "contracting companies" taking up to half of what the corporation is paying as a vig off of my "blood sweat and tears". it's a horrible work situation. but corporate America loves it.

[workpublic]

Screw 'em... get crackin'... stay strong... best of luck...!

i don't know any other way.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 24, 2012 9:12:11 GMT -5 @foodiedad said:

...or the people who just gave up looking...
LINK


Currently only 58.4% of Americans over the age of 16 are employed.

the right should be happy about this. more SAHM's.

[Deleted]

All I can say is.... Google the unemployment rate for any state participating in the current oil and gas boom. Then go tell the environmental groups to take their lies and stuff them where the sun don't shine....

[mmhmm]

I really hope you get the job in CT, workpublic; especially, since that's where you want to be. I hear you about finding work when you're over fifty. Everyone I've known who was in that situation has been hard-pressed to find any sort of meaningful work. Most did as you are doing and worked temps hoping for permanent status. Some won the toss and some lost. I hope you can grab the brass ring.

[zipity]

People vote their pocketbooks in elections

Correct, and who carry pocketbooks? Women..and which candidate has a 10% lead in women voters? Exactly.



Why would anyone in their right mind look at this graph and decide to give the republicans another turn at bat. One more disaster like 2007/8 and where will our unemployment numbers be then?

i'm in IT. that's all they offer.

Have you worked with virtualization, storage, or Cisco UCS? Ask yourself what Vmware, Cisco and EMC have in common, there's a lot of hiring going on and it's paying pretty well.

[workpublic]

I really hope you get the job in CT, workpublic; especially, since that's where you want to be. I hear you about finding work when you're over fifty. Everyone I've known who was in that situation has been hard-pressed to find any sort of meaningful work. Most did as you are doing and worked temps hoping for permanent status. Some won the toss and some lost. I hope you can grab the brass ring.

Thank you! KARMA FOR U!


Have you worked with virtualization, storage, or Cisco UCS
nope never had the chance. I've installed and configured VMware. that's it. Im in desktop support.

do you think a 52 year old(or anyone) with no experience in the skillsets you listed will even get a look at?
how about a 52 year old who gets certified in the skillsets but has no working experience?

zip i don't know how it is where you are. but where I am, you go through headhunters to get work. They won't submit you without experience in the required skillsets. I have no contacts except headhunters. I'm on LinkedIn and have a few desktop connections.
of course though being a one man IT shop during the 80s and 90s who self taught himself DGCobol(and everything else required to run the show) and manually did the Y2K fix proves that I can learn and do anything in IT(pretty much any field) but that and 50 cents will get me the Daily News ;-).

do you have any contacts in the northern westchester/danbury CT area you could hook me up with?

[Value Buy]

Aug 28, 2012 22:08:16 GMT -5 zipity said:

People vote their pocketbooks in elections

Correct, and who carry pocketbooks? Women..and which candidate has a 10% lead in women voters? Exactly.



Why would anyone in their right mind look at this graph and decide to give the republicans another turn at bat. One more disaster like 2007/8 and where will our unemployment numbers be then?

i'm in IT. that's all they offer.

Have you worked with virtualization, storage, or Cisco UCS? Ask yourself what Vmware, Cisco and EMC have in common, there's a lot of hiring going on and it's paying pretty well.

Ah, I will grant you it started under Bush, but it is rather obvious the current President is more of the same, because the status quo seems to be at the bottom of the graph.