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Post by zibazinski on Aug 17, 2012 9:59:10 GMT -5
I think I am all of them. Plus, the second kid and others always benefit from a more relaxed mom!
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 17, 2012 10:13:42 GMT -5
No kidding. I figure no child will actually starve theirself to death so if they don't eat a meal, so what? But no way am I cooking anything else. We had the peanut butter rule at our house. You don't like what I cooked you can make yourself a peanut butter sandwich. This applied to DH as well as DS. When I was a kid we had the clean your plate rule. If you didn't eat it you sat there until you did. Which is why I have vivid memories of eating cold split pea soup at 9 PM (it was either that or get a beating). When my mom got to my sister, the youngest (and the drama queen) every dinner became a Greek tragedy. LS would sit and cry all through dinner, she would beg not to have to eat the green beans or peas or whatever, there would be more bawling, more negotiating (three noodles and four beans? What about four noodles and 3 beans?). LS would mash the offending food into a pulp, spread it around her plate, wail like a banshee. Ultimately, mom would resort to bribery, using candy as the bait. Obviously dinners were always miserable. Equally obvious was the fact that this had become nothing more than a power struggle between two very controlling personalities, but Mom never caught on to that. LS ended up developing an eating disorder (very underweight) all through elementary school. Which is why we had the peanut butter rule.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 17, 2012 10:19:02 GMT -5
Gwen can have a graham cracker or a string cheese, but she doesn't get anything else if she refuses to eat dinner. Sometimes this backfires on me because that is exactly waht she wants for dinner. 99.9% of the time the kid is an excellent eater and is up for trying new things. DH wouldn't touch the kolhrabi but Gwen at least gave it a nibble before trying to feed it to the dog. When she gets old enough to understand I plan on enforcing the "three bites" rule. She needs to take at least three bites of everything on her plate before she can say she doesn't want it/like it. It's also good manners when you are at someone else's home ot at least try what they give you to eat. I can't stand my BIL's kids who refuse to eat anything and insist on mac & cheese or Chef Boyardee no matter whose house they are at. If they ever came to my house they can eat what I cook for dinner or starve, not my problem.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 10:23:54 GMT -5
We tell our daughter that she has to have at least one bite of something (including swallowing that bite) before she says she doesn't like something.
Every time she tries something new it is the same thing. As we are putting the food on her plate she says she doesn't like it. We remind that she has to have at least one bite before she says she doesn't like something. The ease of which she takes that bite depends on her mood.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 17, 2012 10:25:56 GMT -5
As we are putting the food on her plate she says she doesn't like it.
Sounds like my husband.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 10:27:52 GMT -5
As we are putting the food on her plate she says she doesn't like it.Sounds like my husband. And you married him, so he can't be all that bad. Is being a good eater really all that important?
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Post by Firebird on Aug 17, 2012 10:30:56 GMT -5
Is being a good eater really all that important?
Not to me (I was a picky child) but being polite when you're a guest in someone else's house is VERY important to me. No matter how I felt about someone else's food, I knew enough to eat what I could and never, ever comment on what I thought of it.
This tended to make Thanksgivings miserable for me*, but I don't think children should be taught that it's okay to criticize someone who's showing hospitality. One thing I really can't stand is when children criticize food that other people made them. Especially when their parents say nothing to correct it.
*I despise the traditional American TG menu and I always have... it was bliss the first time I was in charge of the menu... homemade pizza and Oreo cookie cake FTW!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 17, 2012 10:30:56 GMT -5
Is being a good eater really all that important?
Not really, just annoying sometimes. It can feel incredibly insulting to have someone sneer like you just put dog poo in front of them.
Plus I don't want Gwen mimicking him, she's a great eater. I told him he can have all the shitty dietary habits he wants, but at least fake good habits when he is around the kiddo.
Not to me (I was a picky child) but being polite is
Exactly. It's not that he is picky that bothers me, it's that he can be incredibly rude about it. I know his mother raised him better than that. There is no excuse for the way he behaves sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 10:33:55 GMT -5
Being a good eater was really important to my parents.
I remember dinners where we would all be sitting there waiting for my brother to eat his peas as he gagged them down, making horrible sounds, my mom stabbing him in the leg with her fork to make him quiet down.
I don't know why eating peas was so important to them.
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Post by midjd on Aug 17, 2012 10:36:07 GMT -5
Depends on whether the things you're willing to eat are good or bad for you... I was a very picky eater as a kid and my parents tried to force it on the stupidest things. I liked broccoli and carrots just fine, but remember sitting at the table for about 4 hours because I wouldn't try a green bean. As long as I was willingly eating SOME veggies, I don't see what the BFD was. Now I'm a garbage can and will eat just about anything (although I still don't like green beans ) DH was and is a picky eater, and his parents didn't ask him to eat anything he didn't want. So I had to train him out of the Hamburger Helper diet as an adult. It would've been a lot easier IMO if his parents had put in the work back when he was less set in his ways.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 17, 2012 10:36:59 GMT -5
After feeding my son Salmon 5 times, and him hating it every time, I made him something else - mid dinner. He would gag when he would put the salmon in his mouth. Just because there are freak kids who like salmon (my daughter) doesn't mean my son needs to be forced into it.
Although, I do make him eat chicken, even though I know he doesn't like it. I'm not crazy about chicken either - so we can choke it down together. Sorry, kid, I can't make tacos every night.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 17, 2012 10:37:36 GMT -5
my mom stabbing him in the leg with her fork to make him quiet down That sounds counterproductive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 10:39:14 GMT -5
Being a good eater was really important to my parents. I remember dinners where we would all be sitting there waiting for my brother to eat his peas as he gagged them down, making horrible sounds, my mom stabbing him in the leg with her fork to make him quiet down. I don't know why eating peas was so important to them. I detest peas! I finally told DS he did not have to eat them anymore when he turned 5. His palate is similar to mine, so we will have green beans when I serve up peas (DH and DD LOVE them! ). Besides, I HATED every second of eating them to set a good example. So I freed both of our mouths from that squishy green hell.
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Post by Firebird on Aug 17, 2012 10:43:40 GMT -5
I love peas. Salmon is disgusting. I can barely get it down.
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Post by midjd on Aug 17, 2012 10:44:48 GMT -5
I think there's a pretty broad happy medium when it comes to kids' diets.
No reason to force your kid to eat one specific fruit/vegetable/whatever as long as they're getting enough other fruits/vegetables/whatever in their diet. My parents did that and all it did was keep me from ever trying those foods as an adult.
On the other hand, if you let them eat whatever they want as kids, as adults - when they CAN actually have ice cream for breakfast - they aren't going to have much incentive to start eating healthfully.
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Post by Firebird on Aug 17, 2012 10:48:26 GMT -5
Agreed, Mid. As an adult, I only like a few select veggies - but I eat them in really large quantities so IMO it works out just fine. DH is always on me for "not eating veggies" but I DO eat them, I just don't eat a huge varietal
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 17, 2012 10:49:28 GMT -5
No reason to force your kid to eat one specific fruit/vegetable/whatever as long as they're getting enough other fruits/vegetables/whatever in their diet. You are going to be an ostrich mom. I agree. For me it's more about teaching good manners and being willing to at least try new things. I don't expect her to like everything I give her but I don't want her making a giant production out of it like DH does sometimes. I didn't care that she tried to feed the kohlrabi to the dog (you know it's bad when even the dog won't eat it lol) but DH made a scene when he found something he didn't recognize on his plate. At least Gwen gave it a nibble and then discreetly dropped it off her tray onto the floor.
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Post by swamp on Aug 17, 2012 10:50:25 GMT -5
I make my kids have a "no thank you" bite of everything. If they don't like it, they don't have to eat it. But they aren't going to be rude about it.
ETA: I don't make them eat peas because peas are gross. And olives too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 10:51:14 GMT -5
I make my kids have a "no thank you" bite of everything. If they don't like it, they don't have to eat it. But they aren't going to be rude about it. but what if they grow up like Drama's husband and are rude about it?
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Post by swamp on Aug 17, 2012 10:52:05 GMT -5
I make my kids have a "no thank you" bite of everything. If they don't like it, they don't have to eat it. But they aren't going to be rude about it. but what if they grow up like Drama's husband and are rude about it? I will beat them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 10:52:39 GMT -5
but what if they grow up like Drama's husband and are rude about it? I will beat them. use a wooden spoon.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 17, 2012 10:53:05 GMT -5
but what if they grow up like Drama's husband and are rude about it? You stab them in the thigh with your fork till they stop.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 10:55:36 GMT -5
I've said before, my kids were always gaggy... and cleaning up a refilled plate at the end of the meal was never worth the fight... they are getting better as they get older... somewhat...
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Post by swamp on Aug 17, 2012 10:55:57 GMT -5
My hand works just fine. I'd probably go look for the wooden spoon and get distracted and forget what I was looking for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 11:34:24 GMT -5
Ahhh....bacon. What can't you do? ;D
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 17, 2012 11:35:49 GMT -5
Everything is better with bacon!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 11:42:07 GMT -5
bacon is out. Pork belly is the new it food.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 17, 2012 11:42:30 GMT -5
Bacon is made from pork belly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 11:43:33 GMT -5
I thought pork cheeks were de rigueur right now.
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Post by milee on Aug 17, 2012 11:48:23 GMT -5
No kidding. I figure no child will actually starve theirself to death so if they don't eat a meal, so what? But no way am I cooking anything else. We had the peanut butter rule at our house. You don't like what I cooked you can make yourself a peanut butter sandwich. This applied to DH as well as DS. When I was a kid we had the clean your plate rule. If you didn't eat it you sat there until you did. Which is why I have vivid memories of eating cold split pea soup at 9 PM (it was either that or get a beating). When my mom got to my sister, the youngest (and the drama queen) every dinner became a Greek tragedy. LS would sit and cry all through dinner, she would beg not to have to eat the green beans or peas or whatever, there would be more bawling, more negotiating (three noodles and four beans? What about four noodles and 3 beans?). LS would mash the offending food into a pulp, spread it around her plate, wail like a banshee. Ultimately, mom would resort to bribery, using candy as the bait. Obviously dinners were always miserable. Equally obvious was the fact that this had become nothing more than a power struggle between two very controlling personalities, but Mom never caught on to that. LS ended up developing an eating disorder (very underweight) all through elementary school. Which is why we had the peanut butter rule. We had the same food drama in our house. My younger sister was the drama queen, though. I usually didn't have an issue choking down a few bites of whatever, not matter how bad it was it just wasn't worth the argument. Until the night she made liver. Oh man, I still remember walking in the back door and the smell of frying liver and onions smacking me in the face like a 7 year old's worst nightmare in smell form. Pretty sure the liver night was the night I made my final stand and broke the cycle of the whole "sit there until you're finished" argument in our house. I vividly remember considering eating the liver and each time I even thought about it, my whole stomach lurched, I dry heaved and didn't think I would make it. Not only that, remembering the time my sister got sick after eating something she was forced to and mom freaking out made me realize that wasn't an option either. So I decided to go ahead and accept the punishment and sit there until the liver went away. Don't remember exactly how long I was there but I do know I spent at least one night on my chair at the table and most of the next day. My sister claims it was 2 nights, but I honestly don't remember that. At some point long after the initial meal, though, the liver was removed and I was allowed to leave. Looking back it was probably worth it though since after that day, mom never again tried to make me sit there until something was eaten.
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