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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 11:25:49 GMT -5
When my ds was about 2.5 and in the midst of his "what's that?" 800 times an hour phase, I was getting him dressed one day. When I removed his undies, his hand went right to his penis and he began to play with it. He asked "what's that?" I replied "Honey, that is your penis". He looked me right in the eye and said...."I loooOOOOooove it"!
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Post by raeoflyte on Aug 15, 2012 11:26:04 GMT -5
I have to actually work today, so I won't be checking back in. But as far as cleaning--again our only issue was when MIL did retract the foreskin and cleaned the area with a q-tip. Do you clean your daughters vagina with a q-tip because its dirty? The foreskin doesn't even retract until 2-3 years old typically. And in my ever so vast parenting experience (which is sarcasm fyi because of course if it works for me it must work for everyone else), ds loves to play with his penis, which includes washing and rinsing in the shower. When my ds was about 2.5 and in the midst of his "what's that?" 800 times an hour phase, I was getting him dressed one day. When I removed his undies, his hand went right to his penis and he began to play with it. He asked "what's that?" I replied "Honey, that is your penis". He looked me right in the eye and said...."I loooOOOOooove it"! I needed that laugh! Thank you!
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Aug 15, 2012 11:26:42 GMT -5
taxi, please keep the ditties about genitalia to a minimum. as funny as they may be, they push that PG-13 boundary. thanks... -chiver mod ...we're supposed to be PG13? whoops...
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Post by Firebird on Aug 15, 2012 11:26:43 GMT -5
And he wanted it on the record that he never wants to answer anything that comes up because of this board again, lol. Wise man
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 15, 2012 11:27:13 GMT -5
his hand went right to his penis and he began to play with it. He asked "what's that?" I replied "Honey, that is your penis". He looked me right in the eye and said...."I loooOOOOooove it"!
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Post by Firebird on Aug 15, 2012 11:29:45 GMT -5
Yes, thank you for the laugh Petunia Little boys are funny.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Aug 15, 2012 11:59:31 GMT -5
...:::"this same thread over on P&M wouldn't have lasted 5 pages.":::...
Nor would it have been as poetic.
...:::"...we're supposed to be PG13? whoops...":::...
Its worse than that. We are supposed to be PG-13 as it USED to be about 15 years ago. Back when saying "ass" was edgy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 12:01:41 GMT -5
Well, I am glad to get a ruling from a MOD on the PG-13 issue.
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Post by midjd on Aug 15, 2012 12:15:20 GMT -5
Dude, is that not exactly what I said?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 12:23:27 GMT -5
Dude, is that not exactly what I said? I thought it was you (I though a couple others did too) who also said that. I was just listing what my husband said (a man), because Dark said we were reacting this was because most of us are female.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 15, 2012 12:24:38 GMT -5
Even if you do that it wouldn't really prove much because you are relying on men to describe to you how they feel. Just because a man who was once not and now is circumcised says that he has reduced sensation doesn't mean there really IS, it could be he just thinks so.
Which is important to him, but that doesn't mean that circumcision is the actual cause of his problems. It's a correlation.
Sure you could limit a lot of other extenuating factors but you are still relying on that person to tell you the whole truth and you have to deal with a person's preconceptions. We as of right now can't read minds so experiments where you rely on people's word for it are very tricky.
The only way to really know for sure would be to somehow measure friction/brain activity/sensation or whatever (I am not a sex researcher) while doing it pre-circumcision, then get him to come back and do it again post circumcision and compare the numbers.
This process of course is limited by the fact that there is probably not a huge pool of men who get circumcised later in life and also the fact that you would have to attempt to keep track of your subjects up to and after the removal of the foreskin and recovery.
The unethical experiment would be to bring in uncircumcised men, have them have sex and then remove their foreskin and have sex again. That would be the surest way to get the most accurate results. But that would never (understandably so) be approved by a research committee.
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Post by midjd on Aug 15, 2012 12:34:14 GMT -5
I agree, which is why I don't think you can conclusively say that it does or doesn't affect sexual activity. I was just arguing against the claims of "Well I did it to my kid and he never complained so it must not have affected him." Barring some pretty unethical experiments, no one can know that.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Aug 15, 2012 12:35:14 GMT -5
Its not like he can put it back on again once its taken off either.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 15, 2012 12:38:26 GMT -5
True, but my DH has said he can't miss what he doesn't know. His foreskin was gone long before he started having sex so it's not like he has anything to compare it to. We had this debate when we didn't know Gwen's gender. I deferred to him. I don't really have a huge stake in the issue. It was a huge deal either way to DH, so I gave him the decision making power. Fortunately we had a girl. Of course this now makes me in charge of all things "girly".
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 15, 2012 12:42:02 GMT -5
Its not like he can put it back on again once its taken off either
With all the advances in plastic surgery I would not be surprised if they could create a synthetic one to replace the one that was taken off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 12:42:50 GMT -5
Its not like he can put it back on again once its taken off either. Depends on how it was removed, when it was removed, how and how long it was stored between removal and reattachment.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Aug 15, 2012 12:44:24 GMT -5
...:::"Depends on how it was removed, when it was removed, how and how long it was stored between removal and reattachment.":::...
Well there you have it. So find a guy who is going in for the removal, and offer him the chance to participate in a "unique study". You probably wouldn't have to pay him.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 15, 2012 12:48:52 GMT -5
Still too many ethical debates involved when it comes to consent. What happens if it can't be reattached? He agreed to participate on the basis that it could be put back on. If it can't then consent has been thrown out the window.
You definetly could not pay anyone to do it because then the claim can be made that they did this under duress because they needed the money.
There are too many ethical debates to do a study like that.
And you can't do animals either because they don't technically have what we consider a foreskin. If I removed the mouse's sheath that is pretty much a death sentence because the penis would be exposed and become infected/raw. I've seen it happen with a prolapsed penis (it wouldn't go back in). You'd never get an IACUC committee to approve that kind of experiment either.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Aug 15, 2012 12:57:25 GMT -5
...:::"What happens if it can't be reattached? He agreed to participate on the basis that it could be put back on. If it can't then consent has been thrown out the window.":::...
I'm sure he won't complain since at that point, he'll have gotten free sex twice.
This is a joke of course. It can't REALLY be a study. You are right about all the ethical concerns. We just need some laughter.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 15, 2012 13:02:36 GMT -5
I'm sure he won't complain since at that point, he'll have gotten free sex twice.I don't think you get to pick your partner though. What if you get stuck with an uggo?
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Post by midjd on Aug 15, 2012 13:03:29 GMT -5
They could always borrow the oversized paper bag from Michael Phelps.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 15, 2012 13:06:11 GMT -5
Bump A paper bag would do the trick. Or you could put her behind a wall and a flap opens up so you can have sex but you don't see anything. Cause it'd have to be the same woman for every guy because you'd have to control that variable. Sex with Michelle Duggar would be quite different from that with a 20 something who hasn't had kids. So to control differences in sensation being due solely to the presence/absence of hte foreskin everyone would have to have sex with the same woman. Now SHE should get paid.
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Post by Taxman10 on Aug 15, 2012 13:10:44 GMT -5
<<volunteers to enter the study with Mid, DQ and Gin>>
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 15, 2012 13:11:37 GMT -5
::sprays Lysol at Taxman while running away::
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Aug 15, 2012 13:25:20 GMT -5
He has no class.
*pops the cork on a 2010 Viogner, grabs two glasses, and moseys next to DQ*
So, how you doin'?
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Post by midjd on Aug 15, 2012 13:26:03 GMT -5
I'll just be sitting over here, alone, with my kale smoothie...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 13:26:37 GMT -5
::sprays Lysol at Taxman while running away:: Ditto, and I think my husband will hurt Taxman.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Aug 15, 2012 13:26:53 GMT -5
I'll just be sitting over here, alone, with my kale smoothie... He's never going to live that down is he?
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 15, 2012 13:31:47 GMT -5
Just checking in - but I see this thread is on life support.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Aug 15, 2012 13:32:15 GMT -5
...:::"He's never going to live that down is he?":::...
I'll have to give MidJD a new smoothie. Though to be fair, I put some kale and wheatgrass in another smoothie and I had a LOT of energy.
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