Islamification is the Goal of Extremists

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I know Muslim people that are afraid of it. I still have a hard time believing that some don't think it's a problem. However, as always, the truth will shine through.

"Feeding Hate": Islamic Separatism in Britain
www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3074/islamic-separatism-britain

Leicester, one of the most rapidly Islamizing cities in England, has elected its first-ever Muslim mayor......

.........Leicester, an industrial city some 70 minutes north of London, is often promoted as Britain's quintessential multicultural success story. Immigrants currently make up nearly one-half the city's total population of 280,000, and Leicester is on the fast-track to become the first non-white majority city in British history. Many of the immigrants are of South Asian origin; and Leicester -- once known as a center for manufacturing shoes and textiles -- is now known for its many Hindu, Sikh and Muslim places of worship.

But a sharp rise in Muslim immigration in recent years is upsetting the city's ethnic balance, and is casting doubt upon the city's multicultural future............

..............The most influential Muslim in Leicester is Shaykh Abu Yusuf Riyadh-ul-Haq, a hardline Muslim cleric who runs the Al Kawthar Academy, a well-known Islamic school in the city. Ul-Haq, 41, is also the leader of a new generation of "home-grown" British Islamists who loathe Western values, support armed Jihad and preach contempt for Christians, Jews and Hindus.

Ul-Haq, who preaches in mosques across Britain, outlaws television and music, and says football is "a cancer that has infected our youth." He is appalled by young women who want to get educated and go to university. He regularly praises the work of the Taliban and their attacks against British troops in Afghanistan..............

.......................Muslims are now demanding political power within the Leicester city council, as well as the freedom to wear their religious dress at work and to have halal food in the city hospitals. They are also seeking their own faith-based schools.........

...................... Leicester has been plagued by forced marriages, kidnappings, physical and mental abuse of women, and other honor-based crimes against those who have not, according to family and local community members, conformed to religious or cultural expectations.............

................................Leicester's motto is Semper Eadem: "Always the Same." But Osman's promotion to city mayor implies that life in Leicester is fast changing.

The sick part about these people that preach this HATE!

Somalia-based jihadist waxes nostalgic about time in Toronto — and Tim Hortons
www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1180278--somalia-based-jihadist-waxes-nostalgic-about-time-in-toronto-and-tim-hortons

Omar Hammami writes in his online autobiography that he just wants three days to visit the all-American life he had before leaving for Mogadishu in 2006 and becoming one of the most recognizable foreign faces of Somalia’s war.

“After going through all the hugs and kisses, me and Dena would probably go running around town laughing our heads off and talking about a billion things without ever finishing a conversation about any of them,” he writes near the end of the 127-page document posted Wednesday. “I’d like to make a round of the restaurants and get some Chinese food, some hot wings, some Nestle ice cream, some gourmet coffee, and a slew of other foods and beverages.”

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

It seems to be happening all over too!

IRAN TURNING U.S. Mosques into Command Centers
www.wnd.com/2012/05/iran-turning-u-s-mosques-into-command-centers/

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Come gather 'round people Wherever you roam,
And admit that the waters Around you have grown,
And accept it that soon You'll be drenched to the bone,
If your time to you Is worth savin'.......
Then you better start swimmin' Or you'll sink like a stone,
For the times they are a-changin'.

Is this because they feel more empowered now? Or because extremists are pounding nails in their own coffins? Or just more of the same old, Dylan the Beatles were once thought to promote devil worship.

Is Indonesia becoming less tolerant?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18243430

Indonesian account manager Putri Nuraini, 28, is devastated. She had been praying that US popstar Lady Gaga's show would go ahead as planned.

But the performer's management team on Sunday called off the show, citing security concerns after hardline Islamic groups threatened to cause "chaos" if she was to enter the country.

Putri says she does not understand why Islamic groups are so against Lady Gaga.

"I'm a Muslim myself - but I don't get what their point is," she says heatedly. "It just doesn't make sense. Is Lady Gaga going to make love on the stage? No, she's going to perform. It's ridiculous."

But her sentiments are not shared by Effie and her nine-year-old son, AdeAt an anti-Lady Gaga rally organised by conservative Islamic groups, little Ade was busy carting around a poster almost as big as his body with the words "Reject the Devil Lady Gaga" emblazoned on it.

"I've been bringing him to these sorts of protests since he was in my womb," his proud mother said. "It is good for him as a young Muslim to stand up for his faith."

I asked her why she was so incensed by a popstar - if she didn't like the music, then surely she didn't have to go to the concert? Why not let other Indonesians enjoy the event?

"Everyone always says Indonesian Muslims are so tolerant," the young mother said firmly. "We are, but we also don't want to be stepped on all the time. We have to stand up for Islam."

The Lady Gaga fiasco is just the latest in a series of incidents that observers say show a rising trend of religious intolerance in Indonesia.

Indonesia is the world's most populous Muslim nation but it is also secular.

It has a long tradition of religious tolerance enshrined in its constitution and has been held up by the West as a democratic blueprint for other Muslim countries in the Middle East.

But recently small groups of Islamic hardliners have become increasingly vocal in Indonesia - and there are concerns that the government is not doing enough to stop them.

The fear is that Indonesia is slowly sliding down the tolerance tables, and that the hardliners are getting the upper hand.

[jarhead1976]

Lol , Aham, I got booted off of a pro board forum . Sunshine forevers crapthenameescapesme. The topic was the Sublim of Islam. I do not think they appreciated my point of view. I find nothing Sublim in Islam.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

LOL.. Jar I have got nothing but respect for ya sir.. Many thanks! The beauty thing about this whole thing now, all we have to start saying is JC is in your bible too, and the FACT is that the justice that Muhammad was talking about; was JUSTICE for JC the messiah Allah (God's) messenger that wanted peace AND love.. ;D

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Just some more evidence to pass around....

Man jailed for South Park death threats
www.smh.com.au/world/man-jailed-for-south-park-death-threats-20120623-20uxu.html

''Make a TV show we don't like - we'll slit your throat. Draw a cartoon we don't like - we'll slit your throat,'' Kromberg said, summarising Morton's philosophy.

[roselia]

Islamification is the Goal of Extremists: Wake Up

It's vital for a powerful nation to get rid of the extremist breeding in their own backyard first don't you think, Aham?

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I agree, I think that it's also more universally understood that we have all screwed up here, and that a nuclear war means no more money for the companies and govts of the world. So I think the story going forward is, and I have thought this for a while. If all these "deals" fall apart that we have around the world we aren't going to just sit back and let our world get finished off. It's called mass deportation.... It's, we're sorry we don't want to be rude, and we aren't going to do what we did in the 40's again. It's just time to go home.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Just more evidence that if these extremists get their way they are going to change the way things are.

Timbuktu world heritage site attacked by Islamists
www.guardian.co.uk//world/2012/jul/01/timbuktu-world-heritage-site-attacked?mobile-redirect=false

slamists armed with Kalashnikovs and pick-axes have destroyed the centuries-old mausoleums of saints in the Unesco-listed city of Timbuktu in front of shocked locals, witnesses say.

The attack by the al-Qaida-linked Ansar Dine group came days after Unesco placed Timbuktu on its list of heritage sites in danger and will recall the 2001 dynamiting by the Taliban of two sixth-century statues of Buddha carved into a cliff in Bamiyan in central Afghanistan.

"They are armed and have surrounded the sites with pick-up trucks. The population is just looking on helplessly," said a local journalist, Yeya Tandina.

[egginbonce]

perhaps the extremists could be said to have the courage of their convictions....................Christians used to kill for their faith,and in order to propagate it,but have got rather wishy washy of late,but the muslims arent doing wishy washy;
sorry- just trying to think of SOME positive aspect to their antics.....................

Now then- time to be honest;if u were told that with a nod of the head, all muslims would simply just VANISH ,but you werent allowed to ask how or where, would you nod your head?................

[egginbonce]

I rather think that I might nod........................

[egginbonce]

or did I mean 'might NOT'?

[Deleted]

Jul 17, 2012 11:54:55 GMT -5 egginbonce said:

Now then- time to be honest;if u were told that with a nod of the head, all muslims would simply just VANISH ,but you werent allowed to ask how or where, would you nod your head?................

I could think of one or two I'd like to get rid of ... dunno about ALL though, egginbonce.

Sounds a bit extreme.

[grimreaper]

Jul 17, 2012 11:55:24 GMT -5 egginbonce said:

I rather think that I might nod........................

Start with this one eggy

[grimreaper]

Jul 17, 2012 11:56:03 GMT -5 egginbonce said:

or did I mean 'might NOT'?

Listen to this guy

[jonbel]

Jul 17, 2012 18:40:31 GMT -5 grimreaper said:

Jul 17, 2012 11:55:24 GMT -5 egginbonce said:

I rather think that I might nod........................

Start with this one eggy

I've seen this one before, but there is a similar one which was filmed in secret which states that Muslims will also take over Congress in the US as well as Parliament. This was to a much smaller audience, entirely composed of Muslims.

[Reckless Roselia]

Oh noez...the Muzzies are gonna get us! Run for covers.

[egginbonce]

would it be paranoid to imagine that if the radical muslims become more empowered, the moderates may decide not to be so moderate?(hence my question about disappearing ALL of them...)

[Reckless Roselia]

Jul 18, 2012 14:08:24 GMT -5 egginbonce said:

would it be paranoid to imagine that if the radical muslims become more empowered, the moderates may decide not to be so moderate?(hence my question about disappearing ALL of them...)

I don't know, Eggy. Should we get rid of ALL the Christians due to few extremists found nowadays?

I think people in the USA are paranoid if they think Islam is taking over their country.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Jul 17, 2012 11:54:55 GMT -5 egginbonce said:

perhaps the extremists could be said to have the courage of their convictions....................Christians used to kill for their faith,and in order to propagate it,but have got rather wishy washy of late,but the muslims arent doing wishy washy;
sorry- just trying to think of SOME positive aspect to their antics.....................

Now then- time to be honest;if u were told that with a nod of the head, all muslims would simply just VANISH ,but you werent allowed to ask how or where, would you nod your head?................

I would nod my head to get rid of the extremism. I think your right as well Eggy. It's only going to take so long before we see the Great Sunni. Shia divide..

Hezbollah squeezed by Syria uprising, Sunni ascendency across region
www.vancouversun.com/news/Hezbollah+squeezed+Syria+uprising+Sunni+ascendency+across/6955635/story.html

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Roselia did you watch this??

Jul 17, 2012 18:48:14 GMT -5 grimreaper said:

Jul 17, 2012 11:56:03 GMT -5 egginbonce said:

or did I mean 'might NOT'?

Listen to this guy

I guess we should just tell these people it's going to be okay?

Malians flee Islamist crackdown
www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1228593--malians-flee-islamist-crackdown

Ali ag Diaba, a travelling musician who fled northern Mali last weekend, said he witnessed citizens being whipped and undressed in the streets of Goundam by the Islamists, who are taken aback by the Malians’ Sufi practices. Many Malians follow a line of belief that posits a more mystical, personal relation with the deity. “They persecute and torture people, under the guise of a false religion,” he said.

[bunnypark]

Letting any religion control ones life is the cause of all the problems in the world , get rid of religion and most of the evils of mankind will go as well !

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

That's the idea..

Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war.

For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."

These guy's....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism

Are part of this.....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

Which lead to this in 1947, almost 2000 yrs after the man was here...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

, . To infinity......

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Age

According to Jewish tradition, the Messianic Era will be one of global peace and harmony, an era free of strife and hardship, and one conducive to the furtherment of the knowledge of the Creator. The theme of the Jewish Messiah ushering in an era of global peace is encapsulated in two of the most famous scriptural passages from the Book of Isaiah:

They shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks; nation will not lift sword against nation and they will no longer study warfare. (Isaiah 2:4)

The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. The infant will play near the hole of the cobra, and the young child put his hand into the viper's nest. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea. (Isaiah 11:6-9)

[Deleted]

Jul 26, 2012 15:45:00 GMT -5 @bunnypark said:

Letting any religion control ones life is the cause of all the problems in the world , get rid of religion and most of the evils of mankind will go as well !

No, the 'evils' will just find another way to express themselves.

[Reckless Roselia]

Jul 27, 2012 11:05:37 GMT -5 @devianity said:

Jul 26, 2012 15:45:00 GMT -5 @bunnypark said:

Letting any religion control ones life is the cause of all the problems in the world , get rid of religion and most of the evils of mankind will go as well !

No, the 'evils' will just find another way to express themselves.

[bunnypark]

The simple fact is religion ,of any description is only followed by people with no mind of their own ,much like the moonies

[Deleted]

Jul 27, 2012 16:36:02 GMT -5 @bunnypark said:

The simple fact is religion ,of any description is only followed by people with no mind of their own ,much like the moonies

Here...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science#2001.E2.80.93today_.2821st_century.29

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_scientists_and_philosophers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_inventions

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates

These scientists, philosophers, inventors, visionaries et al, have no mind of their own?

[Green Eyed Lady]

In addition, I bet they all know how to punctuate correctly. I bet they are also able to discern the difference between "fact" and "opinion".

[femmefatale]

;D

[bunnypark]

PUNKTOOASHUN is also the curse of mankind ,,it brings out the smart asses ,,,,,hahaha.
Hullo Sugilite ,its been quite a long time since we used to chat on MSN ,i believe it was the canadian threads (maybe the UK).
Over a year ago now since those days of the nitpickers .
Any way forgetting the grammar and the dotting the i ,s how are you keeping ,,
You know me , think back