Lazy and Hard Working Are The Same Thing!

[olderburgher]

Kari: Right on!

[swamp]

"save for the fact that in my daily life I'm subjected to a barrage of complaints from people who are basically stupid and lazy, and always seem to find excuses for themselves-- as well as excuses for my success. In short, they were "unlucky" and I was "lucky"."

Maybe you should hang out with better people. I rarely ever hear that.

[Frugal Nurse]

Jan 26, 2011 11:19:51 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

Jan 26, 2011 11:02:43 GMT -5 Frugal Nurse said:

Ok, so even if the high school counselors didn't cram that stuff down your throat, there is nothing stopping a person from getting on the internet and finding the information themselves.

Nope, there's nothing stopping anyone from going online nowadays. But in the mid-to late 1980s, there wasn't an Internet to turn to. It meant researching phone numbers and calling colleges and having them mail you stuff or going to college fairs to collect the paperwork. What's normal today was not normal even 15 years ago.

I did have a plan of sorts for college which my mom derailed but that's a different story.

Again, anyone who wanted the information could get. So maybe they couldn't get the info, on their phone at a moment's notice, but is isn't like college phone numbers were secrets or anything. I bet you could have walked down to your guidance counselor's office and at least found brochures for you local community and state schools. And they probably had a book that listed the colleges and contact numbers. If they didn't, the library probably did. I was born in the 80's, so I can't say for certain, but I would assume getting college info. would not have been that hard.

I'm sorry your mom derailed your college plans. I hope you got to go back to school later.

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

Savoir Faire - please explain your comment - "This is the result of the feminization of society."

It means exactly what it means, in the context of a response to the initial posts.

The US has transmogrified from a society of producers to a society of non-producers and a needs-based economy. This happened to concur with the feminization of society.

[dianartemis]

I think I'm wired wrong to own my own business. I get nervy just getting reports done for my boss. I don't want to imagine the stress I'd feel at the end of the day wondering if I did enough, what else I should've done, etc. My job is demanding enough, but the thought of those other types of demands (specifically employees relying on me for their livelihood) would give me an ulcer.

[Opti]

Jan 26, 2011 16:26:04 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

Savoir Faire - please explain your comment - "This is the result of the feminization of society."

It means exactly what it means, in the context of a response to the initial posts.

The US has transmogrified from a society of producers to a society of non-producers and a needs-based economy. This happened to concur with the feminization of society.

Yep and it was all those feminists heading up companies that outsourced production to other countries.

[pepper112765]

That would be called patents. Even if hubby were an engineer, which he's not, he couldn't really form a competing company without patent infringement.
What we should do is try to save enough money to purchase the patent rights. Both the original partners are up in age and don't have kids of the right age or interests to pass the company on to. But there are private shareholders, so there's no way we could raise enough money to compete with the people who will buy the patents.
Product 1 - fuel flow meter is required by FAA regulations for all small aircraft, so someone (probably an aircraft designer) will purchase the relevant patents. The product is otherwise mostly used on luxury yachts, so any other patents will almost certainly be bought by a boat manufacturer.
Product 2 - bicycle ergonometer (techincally a seperate company) also won't go anywhere. Its the premier product in its field, but also one of the most expensive. (It could be the least expensive option in a completely different customer base, but the company never figured out how to market to that base.) Its patents will also be bought by a competitor.



Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=finance&action=display&thread=2266#ixzz1CHO1vVaK

Patents are only good for 17 years from the date of issuance, for the most part. After that period the invention is placed in the public domain.

[shanendoah]

pepper: And if the company were just sitting around making the exact same product for 20 years, that would matter. But while the founders are terrible business people, they are brilliant engineers. They make the best products in their markets because they are constantly innovating and improving, meaning that they're filing new patents for what they make all the time. I believe the oldest patent still "in use" was less than 10 years old in 2009.
And, perhaps I should have been more clear about this, DH is not only not an engineer, but neither of us have any interest whatsoever in running a manufacturing company.
So, despite Paul thinking DH should open a competing business, not going to happen. That's not where either of our strengths or inclinations lie. (Not saying DH won't someday have his own business again, just not one that would compete with his most recent employer.)

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

"The point of this thread is that we are tired of hearing the woe is me stories from people who don't have the motivation to change their lives."

Precisely.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 25, 2011 22:08:58 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

I'm diligent so I can be lazy. So far, so good and no complaints.

Again- precisely. I am not diligent so I can carry the load of five lazy people. If you're not diligent, you work hard, and you work long. This is my chief complaint about worshipping "hard workers". People working hard at the right things- fine. But my point in the headline of this thread is that many people are working hard because they're lazy.