Doom, Gloom & Conspiracy Index Spot On Again!

[frankq]

Damn....oh daaaaamn........

[damnotagain]

Mar 28, 2013 15:43:34 GMT -5 frankq said:

Did you read the WHOLE report? I thought not......let me help you out...

UNADJUSTED INITIAL CLAIMS FOR WEEK ENDED 03/16/2013

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STATES WITH A DECREASE OF MORE THAN 1,000

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State

Change

State Supplied Comment


PA

-2,497

Fewer layoffs in construction, entertainment, lodging and food service, professional, scientific and technology, and transportation industries.


NY

-2,116

Fewer layoffs in construction, professional, scientific and technology, and transportation industries.


GA

-2,023

Fewer layoffs in the manufacturing, administrative and support service, construction, and trade industries.


NC

-1,340

Fewer layoff in the commercial machinery, computer equipment, and construction industries.


OH

-1,192

Fewer layoffs in the manufacturing industry.


MI

-1,092

Fewer layoffs across all industries.


KY

-1,007

No comment.


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STATES WITH AN INCREASE OF MORE THAN 1,000

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State

Change


State Supplied Comment

CA

+3,007

Layoffs in the service industry.


VA

+1,165

Layoffs in the manufacturing industry.

[damnotagain]

As I look at the above list it not hard to see why and what states have seen such " a decrease in the rise of unemployment" . They do not call mich. ky. Oh. Pa the rust belt for just any reason. 

Be patient franks.

[frankq]

You guys like to talk, but you never say anything. Kentucky is in the Rust Belt? New York? Georgia? North Carolina? Where is the part about the Green Jobs Department being eliminated? Since it's not hard to see your "logic", why don't you explain it to us......

Jeez....you guys just make this stuff as you go don't you?

[damnotagain]

Yes frank Kentucky and New York are part of the rust belt. Most had  manufacturing and coke plants located along the Ohio river . Ohio and Michigan were power houses for auto industry. Had dinner at Treasure Island the other day located in Ohio next to the ghostly skeleton of GMs  Delco Moraine and the iconic Frigidaire plants all gone. This administration war on coal and implementing the carbon tax is going to be the end of manufacturing here. See map of rust belt. 



The Rust Belt is a term that gained popularity in the 1980s^[1] as the informal description of an area straddling the Midwestern and Northeastern United States plus small parts of the Upper South, in which local economies traditionally specialized in large scale manufacturing of finished medium to heavy consumer and industrial products, including the transportation and processing of the raw materials required for heavy industry.^[2]

[damnotagain]

The green jobs department that reports the numbers on green jobs is shuting down. read the NOTICE  found in the BLS report . You can find that information here , once again. Sequestration is laying off the bean counters at the bls that keep track of green jobs. 

www.bls.gov/news.release/mmls.htm. 

 I am not an English teacher that is true. Schooling you is much more fun.
Writing is not my strong point true. Your sentence structure is impeccable though.
Work on your reading and comprehension . My formal education was in chemistry. 
Anyone that knows chemistry knows there is no math in it.    

 Franks math ... Lol , he points out an article about 300 getting laid off from GM in one area of michigan
but they were offered jobs in Ohio. I then post a link showing another 300 being laid off in 
another part of Michigan . His total of layoffs " wow a whole 300 lose there jobs."   Now by my 
Math that's 600 losing jobs with the  possibility of 300 getting relocated.   Your a real math
magician.

[frankq]

Franks math ... Lol , he points out an article about 300 getting laid off from GM in one area of michigan
but they were offered jobs in Ohio. I then post a link showing another 300 being laid off in
another part of Michigan . His total of layoffs " wow a whole 300 lose there jobs." Now by my
Math that's 600 losing jobs with the possibility of 300 getting relocated. Your a real math
magician.

The conversation started with your assertion that sequestration would cast a million lost jobs. That hasn't happened. People lose jobs every day due to a variety of causes. I'm still not seeing anything that supports your assertions. I asked you repeatedly to show us where the statements are in the BLS report that state what you have said. You either refuse, or cannot provide that info because it doesn't exist. There is nothing in the BLS report that YOU have cited that speaks of the elimination of any "Green" department, or any department for that matter as far as I've seen. In fact, according to the info from the BLS that I've posted from the report that you cited, it appears that the job situation is stronger than it has been in quite a while. That would indicate an improvement.

I have repeatedly asked to provide some simple information to support your numerous claims. You do not.

I am not an English teacher that is true. Schooling you is much more fun.
Writing is not my strong point true. Your sentence structure is impeccable though.
Work on your reading and comprehension . My formal education was in chemistry.
Anyone that knows chemistry knows there is no math in it.

Reading is not your strong suit either. No math in chemistry? Really? Maybe if you're running a meth lab.....

[frankq]

The green jobs department that reports the numbers on green jobs is shuting down. read the NOTICE found in the BLS report . You can find that information here , once again. Sequestration is laying off the bean counters at the bls that keep track of green jobs.


The link you provided is not working. The link to the BLS report that you cited is working, and there is no mention of laying off any "Green Jobs" bean counters. Quite honestly, if we actually have people that we pay simply to "keep track" of Green jobs specifically, I would be all for letting them go....

Where are the MILLION lost jobs you are insisting we are losing DUE TO SEQUESTRATION?

[damnotagain]

 Mass Layoffs Data Discontinued                             |
 |                                                                                    |
 |On March 1, 2013, President Obama ordered into effect the across-the-board spending |
 |Emergency Deficit Control Act, as amended. Under the order, the Bureau of Labor     |
 |cuts (commonly referred to as sequestration) required by the Balanced Budget and    | |Statistics (BLS) must cut its current budget by more than $30 million, 5 percent of |
 |including Mass Layoff Statistics, and all "measuring green jobs" products. The final|
 |the current 2013 appropriation, by September 30, 2013. In order to help achieve     | |these savings and protect core programs, the BLS will eliminate two programs,       | |release of Mass Layoffs Statistics data will occur on June 21st, with publication of|
 |the May 2013 data

www.bls.gov/news.release/mmls.nr0.htm


With sequestration just underway and actual layoffs taking 90 days after warn notices are issued. Like I said be patient .

[decoy409]

They can't seem to figure that out damnotagain,or are playing cover. But the FACT is the FACT that you have brought forward.

[damnotagain]

Some GREEN jobs.

dailycaller.com/2012/06/08/labor-dept-counts-oil-lobbyists-garbage-men-bus-drivers-as-green-jobs-video/

[decoy409]

damnotagain, just spoke of this (as you are aware). Best get that westpoint janitorial degree was thinking but according to the known and that in which you have posted there above,looks like a few great opportunities are opening up.

[frankq]

Mar 29, 2013 10:50:32 GMT -5 damnotagain said:

Some GREEN jobs.

dailycaller.com/2012/06/08/labor-dept-counts-oil-lobbyists-garbage-men-bus-drivers-as-green-jobs-video/

Ok.......I read this, but nowhere did I find anything about these people getting fired of laid off. I didn't see anything about sequestration either. I don't even know what any of this has to do with the discussion. Still looking for you to answer the questions. Please tell us where in the BLS report that you read that the "Department that tracks Green Jobs" has been eliminated. Thanks.

[frankq]

Mar 29, 2013 10:41:06 GMT -5 decoy409 said:

They can't seem to figure that out damnotagain,or are playing cover. But the FACT is the FACT that you have brought forward.

Hey Decoy,

Feel free to show us where in the BLS report the info exist to support damnotagain's statements since you concur. All we ask is that you provide some information to support the statements you guys make so that we may all become better informed. Thanks.

[sunrnr]

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Don't care what you sunshine jumpers say.

Cause them dark times they be a comin
Don't be letting them facts get in da way.

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[frankq]

With sequestration just underway and actual layoffs taking 90 days after warn notices are issued. Like I said be patient .

Please provide the information that supports your statement of ONE MILLION jobs lost due to sequestration. Please don't waste our time with any more posts about 300 autoworkers that, as it turns out, are being offered new jobs and has nothing to do with sequestration. In addition, please let us know why there is no talk out of Washington regarding the catastrophy to come from sequestration. Haven't heard a word from Obama about it in weeks. Like I said, I'm sure he would rather we forgot the whole thing. Thanks.

[frankq]

Sun that's pretty funny...

[frankq]

You know what's really funny, these guys keep telling us that what we hear from Washington and the mainstream media is total bullshit, but they swallow this nonsense from the White House and his minions like tripe......

[damnotagain]

Hope this link works . Located in a box titled  "mass layoff data discontinued. " You will find it their.    That's really the best I can do. ...  It states that the green job counters working for the BLS  will be layed off as well as those employed to keep track of mass layoff data. Due to sequestration.

www.bls.gov/news.release/mmls.nr0.htm

[decoy409]

Good stuff damnotagain. Don't think blockstackers like that kind of stuff.

[damnotagain]

Mar 29, 2013 11:29:57 GMT -5 frankq said:

With sequestration just underway and actual layoffs taking 90 days after warn notices are issued. Like I said be patient .

Please provide the information that supports your statement of ONE MILLION jobs lost due to sequestration. Please don't waste our time with any more posts about 300 autoworkers that, as it turns out, are being offered new jobs and has nothing to do with sequestration. In addition, please let us know why there is no talk out of Washington regarding the catastrophy to come from sequestration. Haven't heard a word from Obama about it in weeks. Like I said, I'm sure he would rather we forgot the whole thing. Thanks.

 Your right frank ! We hear nothing from this administration .    Nothing .

We sure see a lot of the federal reserve Front man Ben B.    Now me I find that disturbing.

[decoy409]

Of course the bls has been a definitive thorn with 50/50 but they are doing their best I guess.

Here is a nice view,

March 2013 - Paul Craig Roberts’ Primer on Why the Great Recession Is the New Normal


Apparent that the old d&g spot on is NOT 'REALITY SPOT ON'.

[frankq]

On March 1, 2013, President Obama ordered into effect the across-the-board spending |
|cuts (commonly referred to as sequestration) required by the Balanced Budget and |
|Emergency Deficit Control Act, as amended. Under the order, the Bureau of Labor |
|Statistics (BLS) must cut its current budget by more than $30 million, 5 percent of |
|the current 2013 appropriation, by September 30, 2013. In order to help achieve |
|these savings and protect core programs, the BLS will eliminate two programs, |
|including Mass Layoff Statistics, and all "measuring green jobs" products. The final|
|release of Mass Layoffs Statistics data will occur on June 21st, with publication of|
|the May 2013 data.

So they're not going to publish the statistics. Where does it say that they are eliminating "departments" and where do you find the number of jobs to be eliminated? I don't see it anywhere. What is a "measuring green jobs product"? Please post where it says that a specific number of people, if any, will be fired.

In addition, please provide evidence supporting your claim of one million jobs lost. Thank you.

[frankq]

Mar 29, 2013 11:38:36 GMT -5 decoy409 said:

Of course the bls has been a definitive thorn with 50/50 but they are doing their best I guess.

Here is a nice view,

March 2013 - Paul Craig Roberts’ Primer on Why the Great Recession Is the New Normal


Apparent that the old d&g spot on is NOT 'REALITY SPOT ON'.

You mean the Dr. Paul Craig Roberts that believes in the Rothschilds conspiracy? You mean this friend of Alex Jones and InfoWars? You mean this Dr. Roberts that wrote this?

"On March 5, 2013, Hugo Chavez, President of Venezuela and world leader against imperialism, died. Washington imperialists and their media and think tank whores expressed gleeful sighs of relief as did the brainwashed US population. An “enemy of America” was gone.

Chavez was not an enemy of America. He was an enemy of Washington’s hegemony over other countries, an enemy of Washington’s alliance with elite ruling cliques who steal from the people they grind down and deny sustenance. He was an enemy of Washington’s injustice, of Washington’s foreign policy based on lies and military aggression, bombs and invasions.

Washington is not America. Washington is Satan’s home town.

Chavez was a friend of truth and justice, and this made him unpopular throughout the Western World where every political leader regards truth and justice as dire threats."

[frankq]

Surely you don't mean THIS Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.......


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The US government no longer pays any attention to the Geneva Conventions and the
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[damnotagain]

No frank they are not just stopping the publication of the data they are "eliminating  the two programs " that keep track of those numbers,  mass layoffs and tracking the number of green jobs, due to sequestration.

Reading and comprehension .

Next the answer to your  " million job lost question. "

They say pulling teeth is hard.

[decoy409]

The laxed ingenuity in which you are so stout at sharing is beyond comical to say the least.

Maybe try DARPA or a few others.


It's a no wonder broom detail degree is choice!

[frankq]

No frank they are not just stopping the publication of the data they are "eliminating the two programs " that keep track of those numbers, mass layoffs and tracking the number of green jobs, due to sequestration.

Reading and comprehension .

Next the answer to your " million job lost question.

They say pulling teeth is hard.

Well, according to the printed information you cited, that's what they are saying since there is no mention of ANY job losses. NOTHING in your cited info says anything about mass layoffs at the BLS. You can SAY anything you want. All I'm asking is that you provide the EXACT quotes and sources to provide the stuff you say. You don't seem to want to do that for some reason. Don't read INTO stuff......just READ it....

[decoy409]

'No frank they are not just stopping the publication of the data they are "eliminating  the two programs " that keep track of those numbers,  mass layoffs and tracking the number of green jobs, due to sequestration.

Reading and comprehension .

Next the answer to your  " million job lost question. "'


damnotagain,that would be breaking the rules you know. Reading and learning. Why script detail is much easier and it pays great credits as well.

[frankq]

Still waiting for answer Decoy. Feel free to provide the requested information supporting claims of one million jobs lots with only a couple of percent cut in funding............